<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I agree too much about things other than cars</div><div><br></div><div>Phil<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Richard Greenberg <<a href="mailto:greenberg@lpl.arizona.edu">greenberg@lpl.arizona.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I propose that we keep our topics about Magnettes, and stop sending messages to the Magnette list that only have to do with how the email list works. If there are technical problems with the list server, send a message to the person in charge of the tech management of the list, not to the whole list. If you want to experiment with sending pictures or speed tests, do it with people off the list.<div><br></div><div>I love all the stuff I learn from you folks about Magnettes. But nothing is more boring than a bazillion messages about how to use email and the internet and image processing.</div><div><br></div><div>--Rick</div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div>On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Gene deRuelle wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div>At the risk of seeing old, which I am, in the grand scheme of things,
what difference does 15-20-30 minutes mean. I remember air mail taking a
couple of days --- and that was FAST! Enough about slow transmission.
If speed was important none of us would be playing with "old slow "cars.
Arch<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div>
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[<a href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen
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List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Zmagnette] List response time<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Fletcher,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26. I
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">And your 8:52 PM reply to my note? ' Showed
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<div><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal">And just think - those are
the people saying Lucas is bad!<br>This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much
better than your messages the other night which were 30-45 minutes.<br>It
is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be tortuous, with
stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so it could be either -
or neither - end. Sequential messages do not necessarily travel the same
route. I expect a fly by night local ISP could be a factor in this, as it
must interface with a "real" internet doofus.<br>I do get email from
certain sources that always arrives much later than (claimed) sent
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talking delays of much more than 30-45 minutes. I'll write a reply
about this time in the evening and it might not show up for 20-24 hours.
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questions posed later. Tonight I received two or three replies
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<blockquote style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><p class="MsoNormal">OK, so I responded to two different messages on
this list. I sent them three minutes apart. I received
one from the list about 10-15 minutes later. The other didn't
show up for 30-45 minutes. Can anyone explain to me why this
is? What is causing such a long delay? I'm sending this
one at 7:10pm Eastern Time. Now we'll see if everyone gets
this at 7:11pm just to make a liar out of me.
:-)<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><br>No, you are not
imagining things, there can be some long delays in mail getting sent
out from<br>the server. At the moment the bottleneck seems
to be mostly software related. The program<br>that translates
between IP addresses and names is not responding as quickly as it
should. And<br>with all the lists and all the addresses hostname
lookups are a major factor in the <a href="http://Team.Net/">Team.Net</a><br>mailing list
software.<br><br>I'm looking into it. Come the spring fund drive
I may specifically request assistance with a new<br>machine to run the
nameserver, the current one is getting a bit long in the tooth.
Donate<br>early, donate often ;-)<br><br>I may be able to
improve things a bit later this week, we shall see. At least the mail
does<br>eventually go through. Using something like <a href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a> would
not have<br>this issue, but a lot of folks prefer
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