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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Amen !!!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Gene deRuelle</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=zmagnette@autox.team.net
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America</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:29
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] List response
time</DIV>
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<DIV>At the risk of seeing old, which I am, in the grand scheme of things,
what difference does 15-20-30 minutes mean. I remember air mail taking a
couple of days --- and that was FAST! Enough about slow transmission.
If speed was important none of us would be playing with "old slow "cars.
Arch<BR><BR>Sent from my iPad</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Oct 31, 2013, at 6:29 PM, "John Park" <<A
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with the list times etc. Reply to the sender only
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href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</A>
[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Allen
Bachelder<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:08 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
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<P class=MsoNormal>Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26. I
didn't get it until 8:04 this morning! But before I went to bed last
night, I received Charlie's 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 PM), his 10:04 PM note
(at 10:06 PM), Perkin's 12:42 PM note (at 10:08 PM - over nine hours later),
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<P class=MsoNormal>And your 8:52 PM reply to my note? ' Showed
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>And just think - those are
the people saying Lucas is bad!<BR>This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much
better than your messages the other night which were 30-45 minutes.<BR>It
is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be tortuous, with
stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so it could be either -
or neither - end. Sequential messages do not necessarily travel the same
route. I expect a fly by night local ISP could be a factor in this, as it
must interface with a "real" internet doofus.<BR>I do get email from
certain sources that always arrives much later than (claimed) sent
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<P class=MsoNormal>I'm seeing erratic response times: some later
responses coming in hours before some earlier ones. ' Could
tolerate the delay much more easily if it were consistent. I'm
talking delays of much more than 30-45 minutes. I'll write a reply
about this time in the evening and it might not show up for 20-24 hours.
In the meantime, other replies are coming in hours earlier, to
questions posed later. Tonight I received two or three replies
before I received the questions involved. Somebody sent in a
picture. I have a reply from somebody else who reports seeing it,
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<P class=MsoNormal>OK, so I responded to two different messages on
this list. I sent them three minutes apart. I received
one from the list about 10-15 minutes later. The other didn't
show up for 30-45 minutes. Can anyone explain to me why this
is? What is causing such a long delay? I'm sending this
one at 7:10pm Eastern Time. Now we'll see if everyone gets
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><BR>No, you are not
imagining things, there can be some long delays in mail getting sent
out from<BR>the server. At the moment the bottleneck seems
to be mostly software related. The program<BR>that translates
between IP addresses and names is not responding as quickly as it
should. And<BR>with all the lists and all the addresses hostname
lookups are a major factor in the <A
href="http://Team.Net/">Team.Net</A><BR>mailing list
software.<BR><BR>I'm looking into it. Come the spring fund drive
I may specifically request assistance with a new<BR>machine to run the
nameserver, the current one is getting a bit long in the tooth.
Donate<BR>early, donate often ;-)<BR><BR>I may be able to
improve things a bit later this week, we shall see. At least the mail
does<BR>eventually go through. Using something like <A
href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</A> would
not have<BR>this issue, but a lot of folks prefer
email.<BR><BR>mjb.<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Zmagnette
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