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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Enough with the list times etc. Reply to the sender only PLEASE!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] List response time<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Fletcher,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26. I didn't get it until 8:04 this morning! But before I went to bed last night, I received Charlie's 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 PM), his 10:04 PM note (at 10:06 PM), Perkin's 12:42 PM note (at 10:08 PM - over nine hours later), and Kurt's 11:28 PM note at 12:08 AM. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And your 8:52 PM reply to my note? ' Showed up here at 10:08 this morning.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Go figure!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Allen<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>****************************************************************</span></i></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Allen & Florrie Bachelder =iii=<<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>North Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>****************************************************************</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>And just think - those are the people saying Lucas is bad!<br>This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than your messages the other night which were 30-45 minutes.<br>It is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be tortuous, with stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so it could be either - or neither - end. Sequential messages do not necessarily travel the same route. I expect a fly by night local ISP could be a factor in this, as it must interface with a "real" internet doofus.<br>I do get email from certain sources that always arrives much later than (claimed) sent time - Rock Auto is one. <br><br>Can you get send/receive info from the Digest version?<br><br>FRM<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 10/30/2013 8:22 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>I'm seeing erratic response times: some later responses coming in hours before some earlier ones. ' Could tolerate the delay much more easily if it were consistent. I'm talking delays of much more than 30-45 minutes. I'll write a reply about this time in the evening and it might not show up for 20-24 hours. In the meantime, other replies are coming in hours earlier, to questions posed later. Tonight I received two or three replies before I received the questions involved. Somebody sent in a picture. I have a reply from somebody else who reports seeing it, but I haven't received the picture post yet... <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>' Don't think we're there yet...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Allen<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>****************************************************************</span></i></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Allen & Florrie Bachelder =iii=<<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>North Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>****************************************************************</span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Steven Trovato wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>OK, so I responded to two different messages on this list. I sent them three minutes apart. I received one from the list about 10-15 minutes later. The other didn't show up for 30-45 minutes. Can anyone explain to me why this is? What is causing such a long delay? I'm sending this one at 7:10pm Eastern Time. Now we'll see if everyone gets this at 7:11pm just to make a liar out of me. :-)<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>No, you are not imagining things, there can be some long delays in mail getting sent out from<br>the server. At the moment the bottleneck seems to be mostly software related. The program<br>that translates between IP addresses and names is not responding as quickly as it should. And<br>with all the lists and all the addresses hostname lookups are a major factor in the <a href="http://Team.Net/">Team.Net</a><br>mailing list software.<br><br>I'm looking into it. Come the spring fund drive I may specifically request assistance with a new<br>machine to run the nameserver, the current one is getting a bit long in the tooth. Donate<br>early, donate often ;-)<br><br>I may be able to improve things a bit later this week, we shall see. At least the mail does<br>eventually go through. Using something like <a href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a> would not have<br>this issue, but a lot of folks prefer email.<br><br>mjb.<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Zmagnette mailing list<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/bachldrs@comcast.net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/bachldrs@comcast.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Zmagnette mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/gofanu@cust.usachoice.net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/gofanu@cust.usachoice.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>Zmagnette mailing list<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/bachldrs@comcast.net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/bachldrs@comcast.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>