From ejmajortr3a at comcast.net  Tue Aug  1 05:50:38 2023
From: ejmajortr3a at comcast.net (Ed Major)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 07:50:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WPTA] AUGUST DZUS DNUZ
Message-ID: <2145340730.254529.1690890638329@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello All,
 
The special 8 page August 2023 Dzus Dnuz has been uploaded to the web site at:
http://www.wptriumph.org/
under the ?Members Access? section.
There are 5 extra pages in the electronic Dnuz with photos from British Car Day!
Thank you.
 
Ed Major
'58 TR3A, '68 TR250, '73 TR6
ejmajortr3a at comcast.net mailto:ejmajortr3a at comcast.net
412-965-1722
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From LawrenceRoss at allstate.com  Wed Aug  2 07:04:05 2023
From: LawrenceRoss at allstate.com (Ross, Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 13:04:05 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] The Northern Exposure
Message-ID: <MN2PR13MB414934132D41BF9D1A778D24BB0BA@MN2PR13MB4149.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

The Northern Exposure by Pat Ledford

The run will be on Saturday August 5th!

We will meet at the Bilo Gas n Go on Route 19 Zielinople off of Interstate 79, Exit 88.

Driver?s meeting at 10 AM and depart at 10:30.

We will be taking some winding back roads north through Portersville and Slippery Rock to Harrisville. Bathroom break/gas stop at the Sheetz in Harrisville.
Continue north through scenic back roads past the Bugle Point Elk Farm onto Kennerdial on the Allegheny River.

The run will continue on through Clintonville and Grove City to end at Timbercreek Tap and Table on Route 208W on the right after Grove City Outlets.
The run is about 88.5 miles (actual mileage may vary).

Any questions about the run contact Pat Davis 724-992- 2941 or Mark Bullock 712-462-0949.


Larry Ross
Membership Director
(412) 780-8495 - cell
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From LawrenceRoss at allstate.com  Fri Aug  4 12:37:58 2023
From: LawrenceRoss at allstate.com (Ross, Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 18:37:58 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] TRials in the Alleghenies  -- Indiana, Pa.
Message-ID: <MN2PR13MB414971659C74C016F5730DE0BB09A@MN2PR13MB4149.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>


TRials in the Alleghenies Indiana, Pa.

6-Pack TRials, September 21-24, 2023 By: Larry Ross, Membership Director

Did you know that this year?s 6-Pack TRials will be held in Indiana, Pa.?

This is right in OUR backyard!

The 6-Pack is for ALL Triumph 6-cylinder vehicles (TR250, TR6, GT6).

The hot rumor on the street, is that yours truly has already planned a number of driving events thru the Laurel Highlands.

Registration Form available online at: www.6-pack.org


Larry Ross
(412) 780-8495 - cell
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From slytle at lytlecompanies.com  Fri Aug  4 14:06:27 2023
From: slytle at lytlecompanies.com (Steve Lytle)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 20:06:27 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] TRials in the Alleghenies  -- Indiana, Pa.
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Thanks Larry
Registered and going

Steven Lytle
The Lytle Companies /
Lytle Properties Inc.
412-657-1975<tel:412-657-1975>
slytle<mailto:slytle at lytleeap.com>@lytlecompanies.com

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 4, 2023, at 3:44 PM, Ross, Lawrence via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:

?

TRials in the Alleghenies Indiana, Pa.

6-Pack TRials, September 21-24, 2023 By: Larry Ross, Membership Director

Did you know that this year?s 6-Pack TRials will be held in Indiana, Pa.?

This is right in OUR backyard!

The 6-Pack is for ALL Triumph 6-cylinder vehicles (TR250, TR6, GT6).

The hot rumor on the street, is that yours truly has already planned a number of driving events thru the Laurel Highlands.

Registration Form available online at: www.6-pack.org<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.6-pack.org&c=E,1,Gm_2befyRIY0uwBRozagixi1GRtkYEmNkMlFsZ_7ngxkDDdHs4zbUID7ttqMwSMd4B8kF5mna1bMYEg9dtfuLkpVqyyYWakHlB5NE2zxng,,&typo=1&ancr_add=1>


Larry Ross
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From wpta.webmaster at gmail.com  Sat Aug  5 17:36:24 2023
From: wpta.webmaster at gmail.com (WPTA Webmaster-Secretary)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 19:36:24 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Fwd: TR6 Parts Available
In-Reply-To: <00c001d9c627$c396bb80$4ac43280$@att.net>
References: <00c001d9c627$c396bb80$4ac43280$.ref@att.net>
 <00c001d9c627$c396bb80$4ac43280$@att.net>
Message-ID: <CAGwFdqXdRGsWPv6yyrXADHffG7KKG_meVi8+Ymf0-UOCeuXSAw@mail.gmail.com>

In case there's interest in these parts from North Carolina, see below from
another club:

---------- Forwarded message ---------
Date: Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 12:30?PM
Cc: <rdwtrash at gmail.com>


Dear British Car Club Contact,



Please note the information below and pictures attached and contact the
seller directly if you are interested.



Best regards,



Mike Hado, for Fred and Roy Wagner





My cousin, Roy Wagner, in Charlotte, N.C. is clearing out some TR6 parts
from his garage and would like to offer a couple of items to an interested
party. He has a 1971 TR6.



(1) Transmission (non-overdrive); total mileage unknown.  Was removed from
his 1971 TR6, in good working condition; no reported troubles. Small leak
noted at the sending unit.  Will throw in clutch, slave cylinder, and
hydraulic line in the box with the transmission.  $150.00 obo; buyer to
arrange for shipping from the 28075 zip code.



(2) Short-nosed crankshaft from TR6 motor; purchased from another TR6 owner
who was parting out either a 1971 or 1972 TR6.  Never installed in a motor
by my cousin, and still in the packaging he received it in.  Approx. 1 1/8?
from end to thrust washer face.  Asking $400.00 plus shipping from 28075
zip code.



Anyone interested in a package deal, could buy both, and have them shipped
together, as there is room in the transmission crate.



You can contact Roy Wagner at 1 (704) 577-1554, or e-mail at
rdwtrash at gmail.com



Fred Wagner
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Sun Aug  6 06:50:49 2023
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (EDWARD WOODS)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 08:50:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox oils, for your Sunday reading pleasure
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From hjunderwood at comcast.net  Sun Aug  6 07:38:39 2023
From: hjunderwood at comcast.net (JIM UNDERWOOD)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 09:38:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox oils, for your Sunday reading pleasure
In-Reply-To: <406312821.96811.1691326249963@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <406312821.96811.1691326249963@connect.xfinity.com>
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I found that in my MGB, the OD would slip on a high RPM shift with gear oil.  Switched to ATF and the issue was gone.  I don't know how many times I had the engine in and out thinking it was the clutch hanging up.  Ran into the same issue on a friends 79B with OD.  The TR8 gets GM syncromesh fluid which is a light viscosity.  ATF works as well and many use that.  Put Gear oil in a Rover 5spd and you will be grinding gears until it gets hot.  
Jim

> On 08/06/2023 8:50 AM EDT EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
>  
>  
> For all of you still using engine oil in your Triumph or MG gearboxes:
> And, by the way, when?s the last time it?s been changed? ?Dirt is the enemy of all machinery?
>  
> Ed Woods
>  
>  
> People confuse engine oil weights with gear oil weights. They have > nothing to do with each other. A 75w gear oil has about the same viscosity > {pourability} as 20w engine oil. Back in the days when your cars were new oil technology expecially gear oil was rather crude. 30w engine oil was  used because they did not have a gear oil that was thin enough. Light  weight gear oils are fairly new. The last 15 years or so. Gear oils are designed for shear stregnth. Meaning they cling to virtical surfaces. Engine oil does not. By using straight weight engine oils you are using ancient technology. It would be the same as putting on rayon/nylon tires, using poor fuel etc. We use 75w/80 gear oil in all but our racing boxes. These use a 75w synthetic oil. One of the boxes, a pre-war jag box had over 30,000 miles of rallies on it before it broke a gear tooth. There was no evidence of abnormal brass wear on the syncros. I have never had an oil engineer in 25+ years of business tell me that hypoid oil attacks brass. The light weight gear oils shift better and protect your gears better than any engine oil.
> Ralph Steinberg
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From guzzinut90 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  6 10:08:29 2023
From: guzzinut90 at yahoo.com (Tom Stricker)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 16:08:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox oils, for your Sunday reading pleasure
In-Reply-To: <213815639.120123.1691329119613@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <406312821.96811.1691326249963@connect.xfinity.com>
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 ?I have just been thinking about gearbox oil as my OD TR3 shifting has not been as smooth as it was. I do check my fluid level religously as I burned up my first box early on driving to Carlisle.??A fine memory of our great club's team effort getting me back on the road. By the time I found a transmission at the swap meet, the club members had my car disassembled and ready for the transplant.?I have always used non-detergent 30 weight as the book specified. Judging by the way it poured out of the bottle I worried that 75-90W would not work in my overdrive unit. I would sometimes add a little bit of Lucas gear oil with the 30W when topping up.?This article has me confused. ATF and 75W are at the opposite ends of what I consider the viscosity scale. With ATF so thin, and gear oil so thick, I don't know how both could work.?As Ed is the transmission Guru, I must admit to being lax in my transmission oil change.?What product should I use next?All help apprediated.Tom Stricker?
    On Sunday, August 6, 2023, 10:54:45 AM EDT, JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
   I found that in my MGB, the OD would slip on a high RPM shift with gear oil.? Switched to ATF and the issue was gone.? I don't know how many times I had the engine in and out thinking it was the clutch hanging up.? Ran into the same issue on a friends 79B with OD.? The TR8 gets GM syncromesh fluid which is a light viscosity.? ATF works as well and many use that.? Put Gear oil in a Rover 5spd and you will be grinding gears until it gets hot.??   Jim  
  On 08/06/2023 8:50 AM EDT EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:   ?   ?   For all of you still using engine oil in your Triumph or MG gearboxes:   And, by the way, when?s the last time it?s been changed? ?Dirt is the enemy of all machinery?   ?   Ed Woods   ?   ?   People confuse engine oil weights with gear oil weights. They have > nothing to do with each other. A 75w gear oil has about the same viscosity > {pourability} as 20w engine oil. Back in the days when your cars were new oil technology expecially gear oil was rather crude. 30w engine oil was? used because they did not have a gear oil that was thin enough. Light? weight gear oils are fairly new. The last 15 years or so. Gear oils are designed for shear stregnth. Meaning they cling to virtical surfaces. Engine oil does not. By using straight weight engine oils you are using ancient technology. It would be the same as putting on rayon/nylon tires, using poor fuel etc. We use 75w/80 gear oil in all but our racing boxes. These use a 75w synthetic oil. One of the boxes, a pre-war jag box had over 30,000 miles of rallies on it before it broke a gear tooth. There was no evidence of abnormal brass wear on the syncros. I have never had an oil engineer in 25+ years of business tell me that hypoid oil attacks brass. The light weight gear oils shift better and protect your gears better than any engine oil. 
Ralph Steinberg  
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From wjstash at comcast.net  Sun Aug  6 12:08:47 2023
From: wjstash at comcast.net (wjstash)
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2023 14:08:47 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Parts
Message-ID: <SiBVqoPA2rPKMSiBWqXCNE.1691345339.6eb5a4f3340a63fff129827a855a27bb.MISSINGID@comcast.net>

Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.FreeTr6 brake master cylinder.? ?Almost new condition.??2? u joint assemblies.? NIB?Rear brake wheel cylinders -- set of the brake backing installation clips that allow then to "float"?Also going to scrap yard unless someone wants themRadiatorFront brake calipers both sidesOld brake discsLet me know if you want anythingBillCall or text7244936916Irwin area
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From tr4jay at gmail.com  Sun Aug  6 12:11:47 2023
From: tr4jay at gmail.com (Jay Galbreath)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 14:11:47 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox oils, for your Sunday reading pleasure
In-Reply-To: <213815639.120123.1691329119613@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <406312821.96811.1691326249963@connect.xfinity.com>
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Message-ID: <CACh__AmMuWYh-=rCEbANQEouasqD8GMNagw5d1DeS5RGRCcR_g@mail.gmail.com>

In the early 80?s BL Factory recommended that all Triumph (Rover) 5 speed
trannys have ATF. I still recommend 30 weight non-detergent  oil for a B
tranny. . Jay

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 10:53 AM JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I found that in my MGB, the OD would slip on a high RPM shift with gear
> oil.  Switched to ATF and the issue was gone.  I don't know how many times
> I had the engine in and out thinking it was the clutch hanging up.  Ran
> into the same issue on a friends 79B with OD.  The TR8 gets GM syncromesh
> fluid which is a light viscosity.  ATF works as well and many use that.
> Put Gear oil in a Rover 5spd and you will be grinding gears until it gets
> hot.
> Jim
>
> On 08/06/2023 8:50 AM EDT EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> For all of you still using engine oil in your Triumph or MG gearboxes:
> And, by the way, when?s the last time it?s been changed? ?Dirt is the
> enemy of all machinery?
>
> Ed Woods
>
>
> People confuse engine oil weights with gear oil weights. They have >
> nothing to do with each other. A 75w gear oil has about the same viscosity
> > {pourability} as 20w engine oil. Back in the days when your cars were new
> oil technology expecially gear oil was rather crude. 30w engine oil was
> used because they did not have a gear oil that was thin enough. Light
> weight gear oils are fairly new. The last 15 years or so. Gear oils are
> designed for shear stregnth. Meaning they cling to virtical surfaces.
> Engine oil does not. By using straight weight engine oils you are using
> ancient technology. It would be the same as putting on rayon/nylon tires,
> using poor fuel etc. We use 75w/80 gear oil in all but our racing boxes.
> These use a 75w synthetic oil. One of the boxes, a pre-war jag box had over
> 30,000 miles of rallies on it before it broke a gear tooth. There was no
> evidence of abnormal brass wear on the syncros. I have never had an oil
> engineer in 25+ years of business tell me that hypoid oil attacks brass.
> The light weight gear oils shift better and protect your gears better than
> any engine oil.
> Ralph Steinberg
>
> _______________________________________________
> wpta at autox.team.net
>
> -------------------------------------
>
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>
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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Sun Aug  6 12:38:15 2023
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 14:38:15 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox oils, for your Sunday reading pleasure
In-Reply-To: <213815639.120123.1691329119613@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <406312821.96811.1691326249963@connect.xfinity.com>
 <213815639.120123.1691329119613@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CAMJWJcGWQzuRxhTA090hfnDgj6M7kzui-ubv3TYEZzMCdn7kGg@mail.gmail.com>

I use redline MT90 GL-4 in my gearbox and diff.

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 10:42?AM JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I found that in my MGB, the OD would slip on a high RPM shift with gear
> oil.  Switched to ATF and the issue was gone.  I don't know how many times
> I had the engine in and out thinking it was the clutch hanging up.  Ran
> into the same issue on a friends 79B with OD.  The TR8 gets GM syncromesh
> fluid which is a light viscosity.  ATF works as well and many use that.
> Put Gear oil in a Rover 5spd and you will be grinding gears until it gets
> hot.
> Jim
>
> On 08/06/2023 8:50 AM EDT EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> For all of you still using engine oil in your Triumph or MG gearboxes:
> And, by the way, when?s the last time it?s been changed? ?Dirt is the
> enemy of all machinery?
>
> Ed Woods
>
>
> People confuse engine oil weights with gear oil weights. They have >
> nothing to do with each other. A 75w gear oil has about the same viscosity
> > {pourability} as 20w engine oil. Back in the days when your cars were new
> oil technology expecially gear oil was rather crude. 30w engine oil was
> used because they did not have a gear oil that was thin enough. Light
> weight gear oils are fairly new. The last 15 years or so. Gear oils are
> designed for shear stregnth. Meaning they cling to virtical surfaces.
> Engine oil does not. By using straight weight engine oils you are using
> ancient technology. It would be the same as putting on rayon/nylon tires,
> using poor fuel etc. We use 75w/80 gear oil in all but our racing boxes.
> These use a 75w synthetic oil. One of the boxes, a pre-war jag box had over
> 30,000 miles of rallies on it before it broke a gear tooth. There was no
> evidence of abnormal brass wear on the syncros. I have never had an oil
> engineer in 25+ years of business tell me that hypoid oil attacks brass.
> The light weight gear oils shift better and protect your gears better than
> any engine oil.
> Ralph Steinberg
>
> _______________________________________________
> wpta at autox.team.net
>
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>
> http://www.wptriumph.org
>
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From ccyonker at gmail.com  Sun Aug  6 17:42:27 2023
From: ccyonker at gmail.com (Clayton Yonker)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 19:42:27 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox oils, for your Sunday reading pleasure
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After the issues I was having with a j type transmission I?ll never use
anything other than MT-90(thanks Jay) I had previously used straight 30
weight non detergent oil and 20/50 pennsgrade and had issues. It cleared up
the overdrive issue and haven?t had any problems since.

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:59 PM Jay Galbreath via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> In the early 80?s BL Factory recommended that all Triumph (Rover) 5 speed
> trannys have ATF. I still recommend 30 weight non-detergent  oil for a B
> tranny. . Jay
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 10:53 AM JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <
> wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I found that in my MGB, the OD would slip on a high RPM shift with gear
>> oil.  Switched to ATF and the issue was gone.  I don't know how many times
>> I had the engine in and out thinking it was the clutch hanging up.  Ran
>> into the same issue on a friends 79B with OD.  The TR8 gets GM syncromesh
>> fluid which is a light viscosity.  ATF works as well and many use that.
>> Put Gear oil in a Rover 5spd and you will be grinding gears until it gets
>> hot.
>> Jim
>>
>> On 08/06/2023 8:50 AM EDT EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> For all of you still using engine oil in your Triumph or MG gearboxes:
>> And, by the way, when?s the last time it?s been changed? ?Dirt is the
>> enemy of all machinery?
>>
>> Ed Woods
>>
>>
>> People confuse engine oil weights with gear oil weights. They have >
>> nothing to do with each other. A 75w gear oil has about the same viscosity
>> > {pourability} as 20w engine oil. Back in the days when your cars were new
>> oil technology expecially gear oil was rather crude. 30w engine oil was
>> used because they did not have a gear oil that was thin enough. Light
>> weight gear oils are fairly new. The last 15 years or so. Gear oils are
>> designed for shear stregnth. Meaning they cling to virtical surfaces.
>> Engine oil does not. By using straight weight engine oils you are using
>> ancient technology. It would be the same as putting on rayon/nylon tires,
>> using poor fuel etc. We use 75w/80 gear oil in all but our racing boxes.
>> These use a 75w synthetic oil. One of the boxes, a pre-war jag box had over
>> 30,000 miles of rallies on it before it broke a gear tooth. There was no
>> evidence of abnormal brass wear on the syncros. I have never had an oil
>> engineer in 25+ years of business tell me that hypoid oil attacks brass.
>> The light weight gear oils shift better and protect your gears better than
>> any engine oil.
>> Ralph Steinberg
>>
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>> wpta at autox.team.net
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From mij57 at msn.com  Sun Aug  6 18:11:13 2023
From: mij57 at msn.com (Jim Keenan)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 00:11:13 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox oils, for your Sunday reading pleasure
In-Reply-To: <CACh__AmMuWYh-=rCEbANQEouasqD8GMNagw5d1DeS5RGRCcR_g@mail.gmail.com>
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I use Redline MT90 in my TR6 and TR250.  The TR8 Rover 5 speed gets Pennzoil synchromesh.  I think the a majority of TR2-TR6 owners are using MT 90.

Jim

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 6, 2023, at 7:07 PM, Jay Galbreath via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
In the early 80?s BL Factory recommended that all Triumph (Rover) 5 speed trannys have ATF. I still recommend 30 weight non-detergent  oil for a B tranny. . Jay

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 10:53 AM JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net<mailto:wpta at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I found that in my MGB, the OD would slip on a high RPM shift with gear oil.  Switched to ATF and the issue was gone.  I don't know how many times I had the engine in and out thinking it was the clutch hanging up.  Ran into the same issue on a friends 79B with OD.  The TR8 gets GM syncromesh fluid which is a light viscosity.  ATF works as well and many use that.  Put Gear oil in a Rover 5spd and you will be grinding gears until it gets hot.
Jim
On 08/06/2023 8:50 AM EDT EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net<mailto:wpta at autox.team.net>> wrote:


For all of you still using engine oil in your Triumph or MG gearboxes:
And, by the way, when?s the last time it?s been changed? ?Dirt is the enemy of all machinery?

Ed Woods


People confuse engine oil weights with gear oil weights. They have > nothing to do with each other. A 75w gear oil has about the same viscosity > {pourability} as 20w engine oil. Back in the days when your cars were new oil technology expecially gear oil was rather crude. 30w engine oil was  used because they did not have a gear oil that was thin enough. Light  weight gear oils are fairly new. The last 15 years or so. Gear oils are designed for shear stregnth. Meaning they cling to virtical surfaces. Engine oil does not. By using straight weight engine oils you are using ancient technology. It would be the same as putting on rayon/nylon tires, using poor fuel etc. We use 75w/80 gear oil in all but our racing boxes. These use a 75w synthetic oil. One of the boxes, a pre-war jag box had over 30,000 miles of rallies on it before it broke a gear tooth. There was no evidence of abnormal brass wear on the syncros. I have never had an oil engineer in 25+ years of business tell me that hypoid oil attacks brass. The light weight gear oils shift better and protect your gears better than any engine oil.
Ralph Steinberg
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From: tintandblinds at gmail.com (Tint And Blinds)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 21:01:43 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox oils, for your Sunday reading pleasure
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From guzzinut90 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  7 05:08:04 2023
From: guzzinut90 at yahoo.com (Tom Stricker)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 11:08:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox oils, for your Sunday reading pleasure
In-Reply-To: <CA+Sxo6ZvO9aLK7StSv1BoAhfw5TxvwStpqcV1S3s9U=zYwDSHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <406312821.96811.1691326249963@connect.xfinity.com>
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 Thanks guysRed Line seems to be a safe bet. Spurred on by Ed and not remembering how long since my oil has been changed, I ordered some MT90.The oil should arrive tomorrow.Today I'm going to gut my thermostat to see if it is causing my overheating problem.I appreciate all the help.Tom    On Monday, August 7, 2023, 12:14:06 AM EDT, Clayton Yonker via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 After the issues I was having with a j type transmission I?ll never use anything other than MT-90(thanks Jay) I had previously used straight 30 weight non detergent oil and 20/50 pennsgrade and had issues. It cleared up the overdrive issue and haven?t had any problems since.
On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:59 PM Jay Galbreath via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:

In the early 80?s BL Factory recommended that all Triumph (Rover) 5 speed trannys have ATF. I still recommend 30 weight non-detergent ?oil for a B tranny. . Jay
On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 10:53 AM JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:

   I found that in my MGB, the OD would slip on a high RPM shift with gear oil.? Switched to ATF and the issue was gone.? I don't know how many times I had the engine in and out thinking it was the clutch hanging up.? Ran into the same issue on a friends 79B with OD.? The TR8 gets GM syncromesh fluid which is a light viscosity.? ATF works as well and many use that.? Put Gear oil in a Rover 5spd and you will be grinding gears until it gets hot.??   Jim  
  On 08/06/2023 8:50 AM EDT EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:   ?   ?   For all of you still using engine oil in your Triumph or MG gearboxes:   And, by the way, when?s the last time it?s been changed? ?Dirt is the enemy of all machinery?   ?   Ed Woods   ?   ?   People confuse engine oil weights with gear oil weights. They have > nothing to do with each other. A 75w gear oil has about the same viscosity > {pourability} as 20w engine oil. Back in the days when your cars were new oil technology expecially gear oil was rather crude. 30w engine oil was? used because they did not have a gear oil that was thin enough. Light? weight gear oils are fairly new. The last 15 years or so. Gear oils are designed for shear stregnth. Meaning they cling to virtical surfaces. Engine oil does not. By using straight weight engine oils you are using ancient technology. It would be the same as putting on rayon/nylon tires, using poor fuel etc. We use 75w/80 gear oil in all but our racing boxes. These use a 75w synthetic oil. One of the boxes, a pre-war jag box had over 30,000 miles of rallies on it before it broke a gear tooth. There was no evidence of abnormal brass wear on the syncros. I have never had an oil engineer in 25+ years of business tell me that hypoid oil attacks brass. The light weight gear oils shift better and protect your gears better than any engine oil. 
Ralph Steinberg  
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From ejmajortr3a at comcast.net  Mon Aug  7 06:41:49 2023
From: ejmajortr3a at comcast.net (Ed Major)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 08:41:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox oils, now overheating problem
In-Reply-To: <238556685.436153.1691406484301@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <406312821.96811.1691326249963@connect.xfinity.com>
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Tom, I suggest blocking the bypass hose too.
Ed (M)

> On 08/07/2023 7:08 AM EDT Tom Stricker via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
>  
>  
>  
> Thanks guys
> Red Line seems to be a safe bet. Spurred on by Ed and not remembering how long since my oil has been changed, I ordered some MT90.
> The oil should arrive tomorrow.
> Today I'm going to gut my thermostat to see if it is causing my overheating problem.
> I appreciate all the help.
> Tom
> On Monday, August 7, 2023, 12:14:06 AM EDT, Clayton Yonker via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
>  
>  
> After the issues I was having with a j type transmission I?ll never use anything other than MT-90(thanks Jay) I had previously used straight 30 weight non detergent oil and 20/50 pennsgrade and had issues. It cleared up the overdrive issue and haven?t had any problems since.
> 
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:59 PM Jay Galbreath via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net mailto:wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> > In the early 80?s BL Factory recommended that all Triumph (Rover) 5 speed trannys have ATF. I still recommend 30 weight non-detergent  oil for a B tranny. . Jay
> > 
> > On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 10:53 AM JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net mailto:wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > I found that in my MGB, the OD would slip on a high RPM shift with gear oil.  Switched to ATF and the issue was gone.  I don't know how many times I had the engine in and out thinking it was the clutch hanging up.  Ran into the same issue on a friends 79B with OD.  The TR8 gets GM syncromesh fluid which is a light viscosity.  ATF works as well and many use that.  Put Gear oil in a Rover 5spd and you will be grinding gears until it gets hot.  
> > >  
> > > Jim
> > > 
> > > > On 08/06/2023 8:50 AM EDT EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net mailto:wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > For all of you still using engine oil in your Triumph or MG gearboxes:
> > > > And, by the way, when?s the last time it?s been changed? ?Dirt is the enemy of all machinery?
> > > >  
> > > > Ed Woods
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > People confuse engine oil weights with gear oil weights. They have > nothing to do with each other. A 75w gear oil has about the same viscosity > {pourability} as 20w engine oil. Back in the days when your cars were new oil technology expecially gear oil was rather crude. 30w engine oil was  used because they did not have a gear oil that was thin enough. Light  weight gear oils are fairly new. The last 15 years or so. Gear oils are designed for shear stregnth. Meaning they cling to virtical surfaces. Engine oil does not. By using straight weight engine oils you are using ancient technology. It would be the same as putting on rayon/nylon tires, using poor fuel etc. We use 75w/80 gear oil in all but our racing boxes. These use a 75w synthetic oil. One of the boxes, a pre-war jag box had over 30,000 miles of rallies on it before it broke a gear tooth. There was no evidence of abnormal brass wear on the syncros. I have never had an oil engineer in 25+ years of business tell me that hypoid oil attacks brass. The light weight gear oils shift better and protect your gears better than any engine oil.
> > > > Ralph Steinberg
> > > > 
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From john at jamisonfarm.com  Mon Aug  7 07:22:55 2023
From: john at jamisonfarm.com (John Jamison)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 13:22:55 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox Oil, Hydrolastic Pump
Message-ID: <MN2PR14MB3950B496F85021C028B3F276D30CA@MN2PR14MB3950.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Great discussion on Gearbox oil. I just installed OD in 67 B, so this is timely. I have finally forced myself to put together a pump for my Hydrolastic Mini. If anyone needs to borrow it, please let me know.

John M. Jamison II
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From guzzinut90 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  7 10:48:24 2023
From: guzzinut90 at yahoo.com (Tom Stricker)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 16:48:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox oils, now overheating problem
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 Hey guysJust crawled out from under the car. Waiting for the MT90 to refill the transmission.?After struggling to get the thermostat out, I found the gutw were already removed. Note to self: Check maintenance records to prevent doing jobs twice.Sadly though the overheating will require another solution. Now I'm wondering about waterpump updates.Tom
    On Monday, August 7, 2023, 08:42:12 AM EDT, Ed Major <ejmajortr3a at comcast.net> wrote:  
 
   Tom, I suggest blocking the bypass hose too.   Ed (M)  
  On 08/07/2023 7:08 AM EDT Tom Stricker via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:   ?   ?    ?   Thanks guys   Red Line seems to be a safe bet. Spurred on by Ed and not remembering how long since my oil has been changed, I ordered some MT90.   The oil should arrive tomorrow.   Today I'm going to gut my thermostat to see if it is causing my overheating problem.   I appreciate all the help.   Tom      On Monday, August 7, 2023, 12:14:06 AM EDT, Clayton Yonker via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:   ?   ?      After the issues I was having with a j type transmission I?ll never use anything other than MT-90(thanks Jay) I had previously used straight 30 weight non detergent oil and 20/50 pennsgrade and had issues. It cleared up the overdrive issue and haven?t had any problems since.   
    On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:59 PM Jay Galbreath via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:   
   In the early 80?s BL Factory recommended that all Triumph (Rover) 5 speed trannys have ATF. I still recommend 30 weight non-detergent ?oil for a B tranny. . Jay   
   On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 10:53 AM JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:  
    I found that in my MGB, the OD would slip on a high RPM shift with gear oil.? Switched to ATF and the issue was gone.? I don't know how many times I had the engine in and out thinking it was the clutch hanging up.? Ran into the same issue on a friends 79B with OD.? The TR8 gets GM syncromesh fluid which is a light viscosity.? ATF works as well and many use that.? Put Gear oil in a Rover 5spd and you will be grinding gears until it gets hot.??     ?   Jim  
  On 08/06/2023 8:50 AM EDT EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:   ?   ?   For all of you still using engine oil in your Triumph or MG gearboxes:   And, by the way, when?s the last time it?s been changed? ?Dirt is the enemy of all machinery?   ?   Ed Woods   ?   ?   People confuse engine oil weights with gear oil weights. They have > nothing to do with each other. A 75w gear oil has about the same viscosity > {pourability} as 20w engine oil. Back in the days when your cars were new oil technology expecially gear oil was rather crude. 30w engine oil was? used because they did not have a gear oil that was thin enough. Light? weight gear oils are fairly new. The last 15 years or so. Gear oils are designed for shear stregnth. Meaning they cling to virtical surfaces. Engine oil does not. By using straight weight engine oils you are using ancient technology. It would be the same as putting on rayon/nylon tires, using poor fuel etc. We use 75w/80 gear oil in all but our racing boxes. These use a 75w synthetic oil. One of the boxes, a pre-war jag box had over 30,000 miles of rallies on it before it broke a gear tooth. There was no evidence of abnormal brass wear on the syncros. I have never had an oil engineer in 25+ years of business tell me that hypoid oil attacks brass. The light weight gear oils shift better and protect your gears better than any engine oil. 
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Mon Aug  7 12:25:19 2023
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (EDWARD WOODS)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:25:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox Oil, Hydrolastic Pump
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From john at jamisonfarm.com  Mon Aug  7 13:03:56 2023
From: john at jamisonfarm.com (John Jamison)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 19:03:56 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox Oil, Hydrolastic Pump
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Boy oh boy! An English Major from W&J and a published author but I still get no respect. The pump, not the Mini. As Charlton Heston said about guns, my wife says about her gas stove, and I say about my Cooper S, ?from my cold dead hands.?

John M. Jamison II
Jamison Farm
171 Jamison Lane
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www.jamisonfarm.com<http://www.jamisonfarm.com/>
724-953-6866 (cell)

Coyotes in the Pasture and Wolves at the Door
Stories from our farm to your table by John and Sukey Jamison



From: EDWARD WOODS [mailto:fogbro1 at comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 2:25 PM
To: John Jamison <john at jamisonfarm.com>; John Jamison via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Gearbox Oil, Hydrolastic Pump

John,

Regarding borrow, the Mini or the pump?

Ed Woods
On 08/07/2023 9:22 AM EDT John Jamison via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net<mailto:wpta at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Great discussion on Gearbox oil. I just installed OD in 67 B, so this is timely. I have finally forced myself to put together a pump for my Hydrolastic Mini. If anyone needs to borrow it, please let me know.

John M. Jamison II
Jamison Farm
171 Jamison Lane
Latrobe, PA 15650
www.jamisonfarm.com<http://www.jamisonfarm.com/>
724-953-6866<tel:724-953-6866> (cell)

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From garyfredo at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  7 14:44:32 2023
From: garyfredo at yahoo.com (Gary Fredo)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 20:44:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [WPTA] Gearbox oils, now overheating problem
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 Tom,
Did you try putting an infrared tester on it to make sure you are really overheating?? My gage always shows on the cold side but in reality the engine is around 180, where it should be.? I'm going to fix that......someday.
Gary


    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 04:00:44 PM EDT, Tom Stricker via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  Hey guysJust crawled out from under the car. Waiting for the MT90 to refill the transmission.?After struggling to get the thermostat out, I found the gutw were already removed. Note to self: Check maintenance records to prevent doing jobs twice.Sadly though the overheating will require another solution. Now I'm wondering about waterpump updates.Tom
    On Monday, August 7, 2023, 08:42:12 AM EDT, Ed Major <ejmajortr3a at comcast.net> wrote:  
 
   Tom, I suggest blocking the bypass hose too.   Ed (M)  
  On 08/07/2023 7:08 AM EDT Tom Stricker via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:   ?   ?    ?   Thanks guys   Red Line seems to be a safe bet. Spurred on by Ed and not remembering how long since my oil has been changed, I ordered some MT90.   The oil should arrive tomorrow.   Today I'm going to gut my thermostat to see if it is causing my overheating problem.   I appreciate all the help.   Tom      On Monday, August 7, 2023, 12:14:06 AM EDT, Clayton Yonker via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:   ?   ?      After the issues I was having with a j type transmission I?ll never use anything other than MT-90(thanks Jay) I had previously used straight 30 weight non detergent oil and 20/50 pennsgrade and had issues. It cleared up the overdrive issue and haven?t had any problems since.   
    On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:59 PM Jay Galbreath via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:   
   In the early 80?s BL Factory recommended that all Triumph (Rover) 5 speed trannys have ATF. I still recommend 30 weight non-detergent ?oil for a B tranny. . Jay   
   On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 10:53 AM JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:  
    I found that in my MGB, the OD would slip on a high RPM shift with gear oil.? Switched to ATF and the issue was gone.? I don't know how many times I had the engine in and out thinking it was the clutch hanging up.? Ran into the same issue on a friends 79B with OD.? The TR8 gets GM syncromesh fluid which is a light viscosity.? ATF works as well and many use that.? Put Gear oil in a Rover 5spd and you will be grinding gears until it gets hot.??     ?   Jim  
  On 08/06/2023 8:50 AM EDT EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:   ?   ?   For all of you still using engine oil in your Triumph or MG gearboxes:   And, by the way, when?s the last time it?s been changed? ?Dirt is the enemy of all machinery?   ?   Ed Woods   ?   ?   People confuse engine oil weights with gear oil weights. They have > nothing to do with each other. A 75w gear oil has about the same viscosity > {pourability} as 20w engine oil. Back in the days when your cars were new oil technology expecially gear oil was rather crude. 30w engine oil was? used because they did not have a gear oil that was thin enough. Light? weight gear oils are fairly new. The last 15 years or so. Gear oils are designed for shear stregnth. Meaning they cling to virtical surfaces. Engine oil does not. By using straight weight engine oils you are using ancient technology. It would be the same as putting on rayon/nylon tires, using poor fuel etc. We use 75w/80 gear oil in all but our racing boxes. These use a 75w synthetic oil. One of the boxes, a pre-war jag box had over 30,000 miles of rallies on it before it broke a gear tooth. There was no evidence of abnormal brass wear on the syncros. I have never had an oil engineer in 25+ years of business tell me that hypoid oil attacks brass. The light weight gear oils shift better and protect your gears better than any engine oil. 
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From bobastor at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  7 14:51:02 2023
From: bobastor at yahoo.com (Robert Astor)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 20:51:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [WPTA] POP UP RUN - SUNDAY, AUGUST 13TH
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Anybody up for a quick run to Meadowcroft Rockshelter? (Short 1 hour drive)Great historical site and archeological dig.?
Gathering at the Starbucks, 1597 Washington Pike, Collier Town Square, Bridgeville, PA 15017 at 9:30.DRIVERS MEETING AT 9:45On the road at 10:00.
Host is Bob Astor? (MGB BOB)
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Tue Aug  8 06:14:07 2023
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From lillyrep at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  8 08:00:28 2023
From: lillyrep at yahoo.com (Ken Mikos)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 10:00:28 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Dicks Diner Breakfast, August 11 at 9am
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To all, 

Just a reminder that we have a WPTA East Breakfast scheduled for 9am this Friday (8/11) at Dicks Diner in Murrysville. 

This months breakfast will feature guest speaker and long time member, Wes Easly. I was able to twist Wes?s arm to talk about an event he puts on yearly, The Monongahela Melee. If your not familiar with the Melee ?it?s a low buck? three day automotive Rally for older cars regardless of brand, condition or country of origin that tours the hills of PA, OH and WV. I?m looking forward to hearing about this years event that covered the roads through and around the Allegheny National Forest. For more information on the Rally visit the web site at monongahellamelee.com . 

Looking forward to seeing you all then, 

Ken Mikos 
412-400-9293 
> 


From dgaier1 at verizon.net  Tue Aug  8 13:26:55 2023
From: dgaier1 at verizon.net (RICHARD GAIER)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 15:26:55 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Dicks Diner Breakfast, August 11 at 9am
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Thanks Ken
Sandy and I will be there in our TR6 weather permitting 
Dick ?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2023, at 10:24 AM, Ken Mikos via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> To all, 
> 
> Just a reminder that we have a WPTA East Breakfast scheduled for 9am this Friday (8/11) at Dicks Diner in Murrysville. 
> 
> This months breakfast will feature guest speaker and long time member, Wes Easly. I was able to twist Wes?s arm to talk about an event he puts on yearly, The Monongahela Melee. If your not familiar with the Melee ?it?s a low buck? three day automotive Rally for older cars regardless of brand, condition or country of origin that tours the hills of PA, OH and WV. I?m looking forward to hearing about this years event that covered the roads through and around the Allegheny National Forest. For more information on the Rally visit the web site at monongahellamelee.com . 
> 
> Looking forward to seeing you all then, 
> 
> Ken Mikos 
> 412-400-9293 
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From stoltzies at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 19:32:10 2023
From: stoltzies at gmail.com (Sue and Eric Stoltz)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 21:32:10 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Dicks Diner Breakfast, August 11 at 9am
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Gonna try!

On Tue, Aug 8, 2023, 10:52 PM RICHARD GAIER via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks Ken
> Sandy and I will be there in our TR6 weather permitting
> Dick ?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 8, 2023, at 10:24 AM, Ken Mikos via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >
> > To all,
> >
> > Just a reminder that we have a WPTA East Breakfast scheduled for 9am
> this Friday (8/11) at Dicks Diner in Murrysville.
> >
> > This months breakfast will feature guest speaker and long time member,
> Wes Easly. I was able to twist Wes?s arm to talk about an event he puts on
> yearly, The Monongahela Melee. If your not familiar with the Melee ?it?s a
> low buck? three day automotive Rally for older cars regardless of brand,
> condition or country of origin that tours the hills of PA, OH and WV. I?m
> looking forward to hearing about this years event that covered the roads
> through and around the Allegheny National Forest. For more information on
> the Rally visit the web site at monongahellamelee.com .
> >
> > Looking forward to seeing you all then,
> >
> > Ken Mikos
> > 412-400-9293
> >>
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From barrym56 at icloud.com  Thu Aug 10 15:08:18 2023
From: barrym56 at icloud.com (Barry Martin)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 17:08:18 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Borrow clutch alignment tool
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?Need a favor?
Clutch alignment tool for TR6 on back order at TRF. Not in till sometime next week. Ready to go back together. 
Does anyone have one to lend? Preferably south of Pittsburgh. A coffee or cold beverage could be included!
Barry Martin


Sent from my iPhone

From mij57 at msn.com  Fri Aug 11 14:35:59 2023
From: mij57 at msn.com (Jim Keenan)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 20:35:59 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] 8-15 TECH SESSION
Message-ID: <DM6PR14MB40892177A37B6D663C2882CFA910A@DM6PR14MB4089.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

On Tuesday August 15 we will have our first WPTA tech session.  The patient is Mike Bongart's TR6.  We will be installing delrin bushings in the steering column and a new steering wheel will be mounted.
This is a repair that many TRs can benefit from.  Installing a new bush at the top of the steering column removes the excessive movement caused by the worn original bushings.
We will begin at 10 am.  My address is 7921 Cliffview Dr. Poland, Ohio.  Let me know if you plan to attend.  You can text/call (330 402 0707) or email (mij57 at msn.com).


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From barrym56 at icloud.com  Fri Aug 11 15:38:10 2023
From: barrym56 at icloud.com (barrym56 at icloud.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 17:38:10 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Borrow clutch alignment tool
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Thanks. Though decided to hold off. Today I buggered up one of the shaft bushings. Had to order another so might as well wait for the tool.
Barry Martin

> On Aug 11, 2023, at 5:30 PM, del_tech at verizon.net wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have one for an 80 spitfire if that will work
> 
> Hugh 
> 
> 
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> On Friday, August 11, 2023, 3:38 AM, Barry Martin via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Need a favor?
> Clutch alignment tool for TR6 on back order at TRF. Not in till sometime next week. Ready to go back together. 
> Does anyone have one to lend? Preferably south of Pittsburgh. A coffee or cold beverage could be included!
> Barry Martin
> 
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From garyfredo at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 12 07:36:25 2023
From: garyfredo at yahoo.com (Gary Fredo)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 13:36:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [WPTA] 8-15 TECH SESSION
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 For the Spitfire owners, I believe the TR6 steering column is the same as 71 - 76 Spitfire columns so the delrin bushings should also work on wobbly Spitfire steering columns from those years.
Jim, I'm planning to be there.
Gary

    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 10:17:38 PM EDT, Jim Keenan via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  On Tuesday August 15 we will have our first WPTA tech session.? The patient is Mike Bongart's TR6.? We will be installing delrin bushings in the steering column and a new steering wheel will be mounted.This is a repair that many TRs can benefit?from.? Installing a new bush at the top of the steering column removes the excessive movement caused by the worn original bushings.?We will begin at 10 am.? My address is 7921 Cliffview Dr. Poland, Ohio.? Let me know if you plan to attend.? You can text/call (330 402 0707) or email (mij57 at msn.com).

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From slytle at lytlecompanies.com  Sat Aug 12 08:43:38 2023
From: slytle at lytlecompanies.com (Steve Lytle)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 14:43:38 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] 8-15 TECH SESSION
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Really wish I could be there. I bought the Delrin bushings for my TR six 1976. I need to install them. It looks like a pretty straightforward process. Top and bottom bushings should tighten up that steering perfectly. Hope it works well for you guys if you have any tips or advice, let me know. Thanks

Steven Lytle
The Lytle Companies /
Lytle Properties Inc.
412-657-1975<tel:412-657-1975>
slytle<mailto:slytle at lytleeap.com>@lytlecompanies.com

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2023, at 10:39 AM, Gary Fredo via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
For the Spitfire owners, I believe the TR6 steering column is the same as 71 - 76 Spitfire columns so the delrin bushings should also work on wobbly Spitfire steering columns from those years.

Jim, I'm planning to be there.

Gary


On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 10:17:38 PM EDT, Jim Keenan via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:


On Tuesday August 15 we will have our first WPTA tech session.  The patient is Mike Bongart's TR6.  We will be installing delrin bushings in the steering column and a new steering wheel will be mounted.
This is a repair that many TRs can benefit from.  Installing a new bush at the top of the steering column removes the excessive movement caused by the worn original bushings.
We will begin at 10 am.  My address is 7921 Cliffview Dr. Poland, Ohio.  Let me know if you plan to attend.  You can text/call (330 402 0707) or email (mij57 at msn.com).


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From wirenut12 at comcast.net  Sat Aug 12 14:05:36 2023
From: wirenut12 at comcast.net (wirenut12)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 16:05:36 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] 8-15 TECH SESSION
In-Reply-To: <210778086.3585291.1691847385792@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Uurhqr3cfRAN6Uurmqh4NS.1691870752.b4ab4845b3e3739ae63fb740ac6d4f84.MISSINGID@comcast.net>

That's awsome!Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Gary Fredo via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> Date: 8/12/23  10:52 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>, Jim Keenan <mij57 at msn.com> Subject: Re: [WPTA] 8-15 TECH SESSION 
        For the Spitfire owners, I believe the TR6 steering column is the same as 71 - 76 Spitfire columns so the delrin bushings should also work on wobbly Spitfire steering columns from those years.Jim, I'm planning to be there.Gary
        
        
            
                
                
                    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 10:17:38 PM EDT, Jim Keenan via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
                
                
                
                

 




On Tuesday August 15 we will have our first WPTA tech session.? The patient is Mike Bongart's TR6.? We will be installing delrin bushings in the steering column and a new steering wheel will be mounted.

This is a repair that many TRs can benefit?from.? Installing a new bush at the top of the steering column removes the excessive movement caused by the worn original bushings.?

We will begin at 10 am.? My address is 7921 Cliffview Dr. Poland, Ohio.? Let me know if you plan to attend.? You can text/call (330 402 0707) or email (mij57 at msn.com).








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From dpledford at gmail.com  Sun Aug 13 08:34:50 2023
From: dpledford at gmail.com (Pat Ledford)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 10:34:50 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] CARS AND COFFEE NORTH
Message-ID: <CAK7x7hBSF+wwwTEiDDsvbmv4-nchrfTQAkVLfjFr4nE8sYix1w@mail.gmail.com>

A friendly reminder that the Cars and Coffee North meets this Wednesday
8/16/2023 at the Ryder?s restaurant New Wilmington PA. At the Corner of Rts
18 and 208.

I am away on a family vacation and will not be able to attend, but they
will be expecting our group.

Pat

-- 
*Patrick *

*1980 TR-8 TPVDV8AT209637*

* Western Pennsylvania Triumph Association*

*The Wedge Owners Association (TWOA)*
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From barrym56 at icloud.com  Sun Aug 13 12:35:40 2023
From: barrym56 at icloud.com (Barry Martin)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 14:35:40 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] 8-15 TECH SESSION
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From abcoz at hky.com  Sun Aug 13 18:45:16 2023
From: abcoz at hky.com (abcoz at hky.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 20:45:16 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] 8-15 TECH SESSION
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR14MB40892177A37B6D663C2882CFA910A@DM6PR14MB4089.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM6PR14MB40892177A37B6D663C2882CFA910A@DM6PR14MB4089.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <009b01d9ce48$9809b340$c81d19c0$@hky.com>

Tuesday 8/15 is Beer & Bull night.

 

From: Wpta <wpta-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim Keenan via Wpta
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 4:36 PM
To: WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>
Subject: [WPTA] 8-15 TECH SESSION

 

On Tuesday August 15 we will have our first WPTA tech session.  The patient
is Mike Bongart's TR6.  We will be installing delrin bushings in the
steering column and a new steering wheel will be mounted.

This is a repair that many TRs can benefit from.  Installing a new bush at
the top of the steering column removes the excessive movement caused by the
worn original bushings. 

We will begin at 10 am.  My address is 7921 Cliffview Dr. Poland, Ohio.  Let
me know if you plan to attend.  You can text/call (330 402 0707) or email
(mij57 at msn.com <mailto:mij57 at msn.com> ).

 

 

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From abcoz at hky.com  Sun Aug 13 20:22:52 2023
From: abcoz at hky.com (abcoz at hky.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:22:52 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Beer & Bull is this coming Tuesday, 8/15
Message-ID: <00a501d9ce56$3a96c910$afc45b30$@hky.com>

Hard to imagine that the third Tuesday, of this month, falls on the 15th,
but it does.  So, it's time for Beer & Bull, again!

 

We'll meet at the usual place (McClelland's Public House, in Cuddy) and at
the usual time (6 PM).  I hope to see you all there!

 

Bud

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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Mon Aug 14 04:55:37 2023
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 06:55:37 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] CARS AND COFFEE NORTH
In-Reply-To: <CAK7x7hBSF+wwwTEiDDsvbmv4-nchrfTQAkVLfjFr4nE8sYix1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK7x7hBSF+wwwTEiDDsvbmv4-nchrfTQAkVLfjFr4nE8sYix1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMJWJcEBS5VOyNbsjXMu+3USRsznXFP8WDxmKKmD7+CdWqqFAw@mail.gmail.com>

I plan to attend.

On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 10:53?AM Pat Ledford via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> A friendly reminder that the Cars and Coffee North meets this Wednesday
> 8/16/2023 at the Ryder?s restaurant New Wilmington PA. At the Corner of Rts
> 18 and 208.
>
> I am away on a family vacation and will not be able to attend, but they
> will be expecting our group.
>
> Pat
>
> --
> *Patrick *
>
> *1980 TR-8 TPVDV8AT209637*
>
> * Western Pennsylvania Triumph Association*
>
> *The Wedge Owners Association (TWOA)*
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From jgregg at greggservices.com  Mon Aug 14 11:03:38 2023
From: jgregg at greggservices.com (John Gregg)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 17:03:38 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] Beer & Bull is this coming Tuesday, 8/15
In-Reply-To: <00a501d9ce56$3a96c910$afc45b30$@hky.com>
References: <00a501d9ce56$3a96c910$afc45b30$@hky.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR15MB2704EF3FF41F755F5307CE0DD117A@MN2PR15MB2704.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

Gentlemen,

I am not sure if this is the right forum to use if I want to sell my Tr3a and if not, can you give me information how to reach the members?  I would appreciate any information you can supply.

Regards, John Gregg
412-877-5555
jgregg at greggservices.com

From: Wpta <wpta-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of abcoz--- via Wpta
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2023 10:23 PM
To: 'WPTA' <wpta at autox.team.net>
Subject: [WPTA] Beer & Bull is this coming Tuesday, 8/15

Hard to imagine that the third Tuesday, of this month, falls on the 15th, but it does.  So, it's time for Beer & Bull, again!

We'll meet at the usual place (McClelland's Public House, in Cuddy) and at the usual time (6 PM).  I hope to see you all there!

Bud
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From LawrenceRoss at allstate.com  Mon Aug 14 12:40:34 2023
From: LawrenceRoss at allstate.com (Ross, Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 18:40:34 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] TR3A for Sale
Message-ID: <MN2PR13MB4149583F67BC6FD3C2D0A859BB17A@MN2PR13MB4149.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

Gentlemen,



I am not sure if this is the right forum to use if I want to sell my Tr3a and if not, can you give me information on how to reach the members?  I would appreciate any information you can supply.



Regards, John Gregg

412-877-5555

jgregg at greggservices.com


Larry Ross
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From ejmajortr3a at comcast.net  Mon Aug 14 17:56:23 2023
From: ejmajortr3a at comcast.net (Ed Major)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 19:56:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WPTA] TR3A for Sale
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR13MB4149583F67BC6FD3C2D0A859BB17A@MN2PR13MB4149.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MN2PR13MB4149583F67BC6FD3C2D0A859BB17A@MN2PR13MB4149.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <2057315510.194894.1692057383589@connect.xfinity.com>

John, send me a classified add and a photo and I will make sure it is in the September newsletter. CC Dex Stoltz and he will put it on our web site.
Ed Major
ejmajortr3a at comcast.net mailto:ejmajortr3a at comcast.net
wpta.webmaster at gmail.com mailto:wpta.webmaster at gmail.com
 

> On 08/14/2023 2:40 PM EDT Ross, Lawrence via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
>  
>  
> Gentlemen,
>  
> I am not sure if this is the right forum to use if I want to sell my Tr3a and if not, can you give me information on how to reach the members?  I would appreciate any information you can supply.
>  
> Regards, John Gregg
> 412-877-5555
> jgregg at greggservices.com
>  
> Larry Ross 
> Membership Director
> (412) 780-8495 - cell
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From mij57 at msn.com  Mon Aug 14 19:20:41 2023
From: mij57 at msn.com (Jim Keenan)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 01:20:41 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] CARS AND COFFEE NORTH
In-Reply-To: <CAMJWJcEBS5VOyNbsjXMu+3USRsznXFP8WDxmKKmD7+CdWqqFAw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK7x7hBSF+wwwTEiDDsvbmv4-nchrfTQAkVLfjFr4nE8sYix1w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMJWJcEBS5VOyNbsjXMu+3USRsznXFP8WDxmKKmD7+CdWqqFAw@mail.gmail.com>
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I will be attending.

Jim

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2023, at 7:09 AM, John Styduhar via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
I plan to attend.

On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 10:53?AM Pat Ledford via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net<mailto:wpta at autox.team.net>> wrote:
A friendly reminder that the Cars and Coffee North meets this Wednesday 8/16/2023 at the Ryder?s restaurant New Wilmington PA. At the Corner of Rts 18 and 208.

I am away on a family vacation and will not be able to attend, but they will be expecting our group.

Pat

--
Patrick
1980 TR-8 TPVDV8AT209637
Western Pennsylvania Triumph Association
The Wedge Owners Association (TWOA)
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From lillyrep at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 15 11:22:07 2023
From: lillyrep at yahoo.com (Ken Mikos)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 13:22:07 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] 8/23 lunch  Burgers Zelienople PA
In-Reply-To: <5A7B091A-D9BD-479A-827C-5B80BCDEC09E@yahoo.com>
References: <5A7B091A-D9BD-479A-827C-5B80BCDEC09E@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1C7C91BB-4415-4080-AB3D-4933F472F8F6@yahoo.com>

To All, 

I was speaking with Russel Fuher this morning and we decided it was time to schedule another lunch at Burger?s in Zelienople. 

Plan on meeting 12pm on Wednesday, August 23 at Burger?s located on 215 W New Castle St. After lunch Russel plans on taking those interested on a smooth backroads journey to who knows where. 

Mark your calendars and give me a call if you have any questions. See you then, 

Ken Mikos 
412-400-9293

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 5, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Ken Mikos <lillyrep at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> ?To All, 
> 
> WPTA East has a breakfast scheduled for this Friday June 9th at 9am Dick?s Diner in Murrysville. Plan on driving your cars as the weather is look great.
> 
> See you all then. 
> 
> Ken Mikos 
> 412-400-9293
> 
> 
>> 
>> 


From lillyrep at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 16 07:45:57 2023
From: lillyrep at yahoo.com (Ken Mikos)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 09:45:57 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Date Change, now 8/22 lunch Burgers Zelienople PA
In-Reply-To: <1C7C91BB-4415-4080-AB3D-4933F472F8F6@yahoo.com>
References: <1C7C91BB-4415-4080-AB3D-4933F472F8F6@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1CB546E5-4E3B-4116-8786-259224F033C9@yahoo.com>

To all, 

Mark your calendars. To accommodate a tour of Vic Panza?s Garage, I am changing the date of our planned lunch at Burger?s to 12pm, Tuesday 8/22. After the meal we will drive to Vic?s garage in Mars for a tour of his many projects, mainly a ground up restoration of a small mouth TR3. Looking forward to seeing everyone then. 

Ken Mikos 
412-400-9293 

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 15, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Ken Mikos via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?To All, 
> 
> I was speaking with Russel Fuher this morning and we decided it was time to schedule another lunch at Burger?s in Zelienople. 
> 
> Plan on meeting 12pm on Wednesday, August 23 at Burger?s located on 215 W New Castle St. After lunch Russel plans on taking those interested on a smooth backroads journey to who knows where. 
> 
> Mark your calendars and give me a call if you have any questions. See you then, 
> 
> Ken Mikos 
> 412-400-9293
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Ken Mikos <lillyrep at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?To All, 
>> 
>> WPTA East has a breakfast scheduled for this Friday June 9th at 9am Dick?s Diner in Murrysville. Plan on driving your cars as the weather is look great.
>> 
>> See you all then. 
>> 
>> Ken Mikos 
>> 412-400-9293
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 


From LawrenceRoss at allstate.com  Wed Aug 16 13:39:11 2023
From: LawrenceRoss at allstate.com (Ross, Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 19:39:11 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] Sisterville Ferry Run
Message-ID: <MN2PR13MB4149F0E8D52C40897DE7905CBB15A@MN2PR13MB4149.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

Sisterville Ferry Run August 19, 2023 by Bill Haas

 We will be meeting at the Denny?s on Route 40 in Washington, PA (Chestnut Street exit off of Interstate 70).

We will be meeting at 9:00 am, leaving at 9:30 am. First stop will be in Hundred, WV (48 miles from start), and ending at the ferry in Sisterville, WV.

Lunch will be at Marv?s Place in Sardis, OH once we cross the Ohio River.

Any questions, please email me at (zoltran at verizon.net) or call on my cell 412-352-3601. If you are planning on attending, please RSVP by Thursday, August 17. Thanks, Bill.

Larry Ross
Membership Director
(412) 780-8495 - cell
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From barrym56 at icloud.com  Mon Aug 21 05:57:54 2023
From: barrym56 at icloud.com (barrym56 at icloud.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 07:57:54 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
Message-ID: <5D680725-4B0A-4EA4-B953-3DB875700F69@icloud.com>

Getting ready to buy tires for 1971 MGB with wire wheels.
What size tires do you recommend?
If my research is correct (maybe not) the wheel width is 4.5?
So 175 70 or 185 70?
Barry Martin

From lillyrep at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 21 07:06:26 2023
From: lillyrep at yahoo.com (Ken Mikos)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:06:26 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Date Change, now 8/22 lunch Burgers Zelienople PA
In-Reply-To: <1CB546E5-4E3B-4116-8786-259224F033C9@yahoo.com>
References: <1CB546E5-4E3B-4116-8786-259224F033C9@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <77C3BA02-810C-4139-B7CA-41EFCBB58A99@yahoo.com>

To all, 

Just a reminder that we have a 12pm lunch planned for tomorrow at Burgers in Zelienople followed by a tour of Vic Panza?s garage in Mars PA. 

Looking forward to seeing all of you then. 

Ken Mikos 
412-400-9293 

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 16, 2023, at 9:45 AM, Ken Mikos <lillyrep at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> ?To all, 
> 
> Mark your calendars. To accommodate a tour of Vic Panza?s Garage, I am changing the date of our planned lunch at Burger?s to 12pm, Tuesday 8/22. After the meal we will drive to Vic?s garage in Mars for a tour of his many projects, mainly a ground up restoration of a small mouth TR3. Looking forward to seeing everyone then. 
> 
> Ken Mikos 
> 412-400-9293 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Ken Mikos via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?To All, 
>> 
>> I was speaking with Russel Fuher this morning and we decided it was time to schedule another lunch at Burger?s in Zelienople. 
>> 
>> Plan on meeting 12pm on Wednesday, August 23 at Burger?s located on 215 W New Castle St. After lunch Russel plans on taking those interested on a smooth backroads journey to who knows where. 
>> 
>> Mark your calendars and give me a call if you have any questions. See you then, 
>> 
>> Ken Mikos 
>> 412-400-9293
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Ken Mikos <lillyrep at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?To All, 
>>> 
>>> WPTA East has a breakfast scheduled for this Friday June 9th at 9am Dick?s Diner in Murrysville. Plan on driving your cars as the weather is look great.
>>> 
>>> See you all then. 
>>> 
>>> Ken Mikos 
>>> 412-400-9293
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 


From LawrenceRoss at allstate.com  Mon Aug 21 07:09:32 2023
From: LawrenceRoss at allstate.com (Ross, Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 13:09:32 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] Sam Halkias
Message-ID: <MN2PR13MB4149195D9CCA175414FA7422BB1EA@MN2PR13MB4149.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>


It is with great sadness that I pass along to you folks that our friend Sam Halkias passed away over the weekend.

Sam was a Triumph Racer extraordinaire.

Larry Ross
Membership Director
(412) 780-8495 - cell
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Mon Aug 21 07:09:13 2023
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (EDWARD WOODS)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:09:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
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From dredder at aol.com  Mon Aug 21 07:54:42 2023
From: dredder at aol.com (dredder)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:54:42 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Date Change, now 8/22 lunch Burgers Zelienople PA
In-Reply-To: <77C3BA02-810C-4139-B7CA-41EFCBB58A99@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1016714587.1302160.1692626086579@aol.com>

Is that Burgers Brewing (new to me as i only recently moved here - though I grew up here 60 years ago) and just got my 77 prototype TR-8 back from the Wedge Shop.Ed WilsonSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Ken Mikos via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> Date: 8/21/23  9:08 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Ken Mikos via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Date Change, now 8/22 lunch Burgers Zelienople PA To all, Just a reminder that we have a 12pm lunch planned for tomorrow at Burgers in Zelienople followed by a tour of Vic Panza?s garage in Mars PA. Looking forward to seeing all of you then. Ken Mikos 412-400-9293 Sent from my iPad> On Aug 16, 2023, at 9:45 AM, Ken Mikos <lillyrep at yahoo.com> wrote:> > ?To all, > > Mark your calendars. To accommodate a tour of Vic Panza?s Garage, I am changing the date of our planned lunch at Burger?s to 12pm, Tuesday 8/22. After the meal we will drive to Vic?s garage in Mars for a tour of his many projects, mainly a ground up restoration of a small mouth TR3. Looking forward to seeing everyone then. > > Ken Mikos > 412-400-9293 > > Sent from my iPad> >> On Aug 15, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Ken Mikos via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:>> >> ?To All, >> >> I was speaking with Russel Fuher this morning and we decided it was time to schedule another lunch at Burger?s in Zelienople. >> >> Plan on meeting 12pm on Wednesday, August 23 at Burger?s located on 215 W New Castle St. After lunch Russel plans on taking those interested on a smooth backroads journey to who knows where. >> >> Mark your calendars and give me a call if you have any questions. See you then, >> >> Ken Mikos >> 412-400-9293>> >> Sent from my iPad>> >>>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Ken Mikos <lillyrep at yahoo.com> wrote:>>> >>> ?To All, >>> >>> WPTA East has a breakfast scheduled for this Friday June 9th at 9am Dick?s Diner in Murrysville. Plan on driving your cars as the weather is look great.>>> >>> See you all then. >>> >>> Ken Mikos >>> 412-400-9293>>> >>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________wpta at autox.team.net-------------------------------------http://www.wptriumph.orgDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/wpta/dredder at aol.com
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From tr4jay at gmail.com  Mon Aug 21 09:33:17 2023
From: tr4jay at gmail.com (Jay Galbreath)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 11:33:17 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
In-Reply-To: <5D680725-4B0A-4EA4-B953-3DB875700F69@icloud.com>
References: <5D680725-4B0A-4EA4-B953-3DB875700F69@icloud.com>
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I think you will find most people use the 185-70. This is the size I have
been using all my life.  If you go to the MG site you can find a wealth of
information there. Better than asking us.
https://www.triumphexp.com/?utm_source=alias&utm_medium=triumphexperience.com

On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 8:14?AM barrym56--- via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Getting ready to buy tires for 1971 MGB with wire wheels.
> What size tires do you recommend?
> If my research is correct (maybe not) the wheel width is 4.5?
> So 175 70 or 185 70?
> Barry Martin
> _______________________________________________
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From lillyrep at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 21 13:02:44 2023
From: lillyrep at yahoo.com (Ken Mikos)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 15:02:44 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] WPTA 8/22 Lunch
References: <81BB32AC-9360-4AF3-93A4-045067E1DE68.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <81BB32AC-9360-4AF3-93A4-045067E1DE68@yahoo.com>

To all, 
I had several request for the address of tomorrows lunch. 

Burghers Brewing 
215 W New Castle St 
Zelienople PA 
724-473-0710

See you all them
Ken 
412-400-9293 
Sent from my iPad

From hjunderwood at comcast.net  Tue Aug 22 06:17:26 2023
From: hjunderwood at comcast.net (JIM UNDERWOOD)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 08:17:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
In-Reply-To: <CACh__A=E+NCVvGVXasvs-r4atqvNSB8W0c+y_dHTs3GXdDvBXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5D680725-4B0A-4EA4-B953-3DB875700F69@icloud.com>
 <CACh__A=E+NCVvGVXasvs-r4atqvNSB8W0c+y_dHTs3GXdDvBXw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <512160664.98699.1692706646629@connect.xfinity.com>

I would agree with Jay.  185/70 is what I had on the Rostyles.  Later did the +1 with 195/60 on 15" Panasports. 
 

> On 08/21/2023 11:33 AM EDT Jay Galbreath via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
>  
>  
> I think you will find most people use the 185-70. This is the size I have been using all my life.  If you go to the MG site you can find a wealth of information there. Better than asking us.
> https://www.triumphexp.com/?utm_source=alias&utm_medium=triumphexperience.com
> 
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 8:14?AM barrym56--- via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net mailto:wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> > Getting ready to buy tires for 1971 MGB with wire wheels.
> > What size tires do you recommend?
> > If my research is correct (maybe not) the wheel width is 4.5?
> > So 175 70 or 185 70?
> > Barry Martin
> > _______________________________________________
> > wpta at autox.team.net mailto:wpta at autox.team.net
> > 
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From barrym56 at icloud.com  Tue Aug 22 06:50:43 2023
From: barrym56 at icloud.com (barrym56 at icloud.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 08:50:43 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
In-Reply-To: <512160664.98699.1692706646629@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <5D680725-4B0A-4EA4-B953-3DB875700F69@icloud.com>
 <CACh__A=E+NCVvGVXasvs-r4atqvNSB8W0c+y_dHTs3GXdDvBXw@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks all! 
Been working on this car off an on for two years.
The body is rough but now have it running well.
My goal is to take it on Bud?s September run so I need to replace the more than 20 year old tires!
Barry

> On Aug 22, 2023, at 8:17 AM, JIM UNDERWOOD <hjunderwood at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I would agree with Jay.  185/70 is what I had on the Rostyles.  Later did the +1 with 195/60 on 15" Panasports. 
>  
>> On 08/21/2023 11:33 AM EDT Jay Galbreath via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> I think you will find most people use the 185-70. This is the size I have been using all my life.  If you go to the MG site you can find a wealth of information there. Better than asking us.
>> https://www.triumphexp.com/?utm_source=alias&utm_medium=triumphexperience.com
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 8:14?AM barrym56--- via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net <mailto:wpta at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> Getting ready to buy tires for 1971 MGB with wire wheels. 
>> What size tires do you recommend? 
>> If my research is correct (maybe not) the wheel width is 4.5? 
>> So 175 70 or 185 70? 
>> Barry Martin 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> wpta at autox.team.net <mailto:wpta at autox.team.net> 
>> 
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From stutztr4 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 08:04:50 2023
From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 10:04:50 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Sept. Dzus
Message-ID: <CAM8wRFHAJXw6NFVvwpzECmodo_pujQUbrvPfAqNqf9e1p54MoQ@mail.gmail.com>

The summer months pass by much too quickly.
It's Dzus time already.
The meeting is at Sunny Jims
Monday the 28th
6:00pm
So get those articles and photos in hopefully by Friday.
Bruce
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From abcoz at hky.com  Wed Aug 23 11:38:48 2023
From: abcoz at hky.com (abcoz at hky.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 13:38:48 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
In-Reply-To: <5D680725-4B0A-4EA4-B953-3DB875700F69@icloud.com>
References: <5D680725-4B0A-4EA4-B953-3DB875700F69@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <001201d9d5e8$acda7ff0$068f7fd0$@hky.com>

Sorry for the late response, but we've been out of town for most of the past week and I'm just getting caught up to everything here, at home.

Personally, I favor the 175 width, over the 185.  Unless you are doing a lot of fast driving, there is NOTHING to be gained from the extra 10mm of tread width, except heavier steering effort and extra rolling resistance.   Even if you do a lot of fast driving, you are very unlikely to drive fast enough to realize the small amount of extra grip the 185s MAY give you.

While fat tires may look "cooler", they are mostly for show and usually cost more, too.

Bud

-----Original Message-----
From: Wpta <wpta-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of barrym56--- via Wpta
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 7:58 AM
To: WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts

Getting ready to buy tires for 1971 MGB with wire wheels.
What size tires do you recommend?
If my research is correct (maybe not) the wheel width is 4.5?
So 175 70 or 185 70?
Barry Martin
_______________________________________________
wpta at autox.team.net

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From ren_bartoe at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 23 12:34:22 2023
From: ren_bartoe at yahoo.com (Ren Bartoe)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 14:34:22 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
In-Reply-To: <001201d9d5e8$acda7ff0$068f7fd0$@hky.com>
References: <001201d9d5e8$acda7ff0$068f7fd0$@hky.com>
Message-ID: <31F7D9B6-1C73-4A10-8C9E-FDDBE2445666@yahoo.com>

I hear ya Bud.  

On my 76B with Minilite wheels we determined that a 195 was the max I could go. The Kelly 195/70R14 handle well at moderate and spirted driving, but I also have the upgraded suspension front and rear.

They look great with the lower profile (0.1?) and the tread is 0.6? wider than the 185.  But again, later model B with Minilites not wire wheels.

Ren

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2023, at 1:45 PM, abcoz--- via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Sorry for the late response, but we've been out of town for most of the past week and I'm just getting caught up to everything here, at home.
> 
> Personally, I favor the 175 width, over the 185.  Unless you are doing a lot of fast driving, there is NOTHING to be gained from the extra 10mm of tread width, except heavier steering effort and extra rolling resistance.   Even if you do a lot of fast driving, you are very unlikely to drive fast enough to realize the small amount of extra grip the 185s MAY give you.
> 
> While fat tires may look "cooler", they are mostly for show and usually cost more, too.
> 
> Bud
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wpta <wpta-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of barrym56--- via Wpta
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 7:58 AM
> To: WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
> 
> Getting ready to buy tires for 1971 MGB with wire wheels.
> What size tires do you recommend?
> If my research is correct (maybe not) the wheel width is 4.5?
> So 175 70 or 185 70?
> Barry Martin
> _______________________________________________
> wpta at autox.team.net
> 
> -------------------------------------
> 
> http://www.wptriumph.org
> 
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> 
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From barrym56 at icloud.com  Wed Aug 23 14:25:02 2023
From: barrym56 at icloud.com (Barry Martin)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 16:25:02 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
In-Reply-To: <31F7D9B6-1C73-4A10-8C9E-FDDBE2445666@yahoo.com>
References: <31F7D9B6-1C73-4A10-8C9E-FDDBE2445666@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E496E9FD-8001-47D3-8494-E393AD1C1DBA@icloud.com>

A new turn of events. The local tire shop I?ve been dealing with now has a young fellow working there. His head nearly exploded when I mentioned wire wheels, liners and tubes. He?s a nice kid and I don?t want to go over his head to the owner who was ok with everything last we talked. I?d prefer to find someone else. Bud, I think you recommended Calabro Tire. Any other recommendations?
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Ren Bartoe <ren_bartoe at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I hear ya Bud.  
> 
> On my 76B with Minilite wheels we determined that a 195 was the max I could go. The Kelly 195/70R14 handle well at moderate and spirted driving, but I also have the upgraded suspension front and rear.
> 
> They look great with the lower profile (0.1?) and the tread is 0.6? wider than the 185.  But again, later model B with Minilites not wire wheels.
> 
> Ren
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2023, at 1:45 PM, abcoz--- via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Sorry for the late response, but we've been out of town for most of the past week and I'm just getting caught up to everything here, at home.
>> 
>> Personally, I favor the 175 width, over the 185.  Unless you are doing a lot of fast driving, there is NOTHING to be gained from the extra 10mm of tread width, except heavier steering effort and extra rolling resistance.   Even if you do a lot of fast driving, you are very unlikely to drive fast enough to realize the small amount of extra grip the 185s MAY give you.
>> 
>> While fat tires may look "cooler", they are mostly for show and usually cost more, too.
>> 
>> Bud
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wpta <wpta-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of barrym56--- via Wpta
>> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 7:58 AM
>> To: WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
>> 
>> Getting ready to buy tires for 1971 MGB with wire wheels.
>> What size tires do you recommend?
>> If my research is correct (maybe not) the wheel width is 4.5?
>> So 175 70 or 185 70?
>> Barry Martin
>> _______________________________________________
>> wpta at autox.team.net
>> 
>> -------------------------------------
>> 
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>> 
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From bobastor at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 23 17:57:32 2023
From: bobastor at yahoo.com (Robert Astor)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 23:57:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
In-Reply-To: <E496E9FD-8001-47D3-8494-E393AD1C1DBA@icloud.com>
References: <31F7D9B6-1C73-4A10-8C9E-FDDBE2445666@yahoo.com>
 <E496E9FD-8001-47D3-8494-E393AD1C1DBA@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <422903686.3994792.1692835052472@mail.yahoo.com>

Bruce Brothers in Bethel Park off of 88 behind Sheetz.They have worked on my 71.100 Hillside Dr, Bethel Park, PA 15102
(412) 307-4927


Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 7:53 PM, Barry Martin via Wpta<wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:   A new turn of events. The local tire shop I?ve been dealing with now has a young fellow working there. His head nearly exploded when I mentioned wire wheels, liners and tubes. He?s a nice kid and I don?t want to go over his head to the owner who was ok with everything last we talked. I?d prefer to find someone else. Bud, I think you recommended Calabro Tire. Any other recommendations?
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Ren Bartoe <ren_bartoe at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I hear ya Bud.? 
> 
> On my 76B with Minilite wheels we determined that a 195 was the max I could go. The Kelly 195/70R14 handle well at moderate and spirted driving, but I also have the upgraded suspension front and rear.
> 
> They look great with the lower profile (0.1?) and the tread is 0.6? wider than the 185.? But again, later model B with Minilites not wire wheels.
> 
> Ren
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2023, at 1:45 PM, abcoz--- via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Sorry for the late response, but we've been out of town for most of the past week and I'm just getting caught up to everything here, at home.
>> 
>> Personally, I favor the 175 width, over the 185.? Unless you are doing a lot of fast driving, there is NOTHING to be gained from the extra 10mm of tread width, except heavier steering effort and extra rolling resistance.? Even if you do a lot of fast driving, you are very unlikely to drive fast enough to realize the small amount of extra grip the 185s MAY give you.
>> 
>> While fat tires may look "cooler", they are mostly for show and usually cost more, too.
>> 
>> Bud
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wpta <wpta-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of barrym56--- via Wpta
>> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 7:58 AM
>> To: WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
>> 
>> Getting ready to buy tires for 1971 MGB with wire wheels.
>> What size tires do you recommend?
>> If my research is correct (maybe not) the wheel width is 4.5?
>> So 175 70 or 185 70?
>> Barry Martin
>> _______________________________________________
>> wpta at autox.team.net
>> 
>> -------------------------------------
>> 
>> http://www.wptriumph.org
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>> 
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From: rkellogg19 at gmail.com (Robert Kellogg)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 20:07:57 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
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From ccyonker at gmail.com  Wed Aug 23 19:14:30 2023
From: ccyonker at gmail.com (Clayton Yonker)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 21:14:30 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
In-Reply-To: <E496E9FD-8001-47D3-8494-E393AD1C1DBA@icloud.com>
References: <31F7D9B6-1C73-4A10-8C9E-FDDBE2445666@yahoo.com>
 <E496E9FD-8001-47D3-8494-E393AD1C1DBA@icloud.com>
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I?ve used Calabro for all my cars for the twenty plus years. They?ve done
wires wheels with and without tubes. They?re really good and experienced. I
recommend them. I?ve used Bruce Bros too. They?re pet good but Calabro for
me.

Thanks

On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 7:41 PM Barry Martin via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> A new turn of events. The local tire shop I?ve been dealing with now has a
> young fellow working there. His head nearly exploded when I mentioned wire
> wheels, liners and tubes. He?s a nice kid and I don?t want to go over his
> head to the owner who was ok with everything last we talked. I?d prefer to
> find someone else. Bud, I think you recommended Calabro Tire. Any other
> recommendations?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 23, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Ren Bartoe <ren_bartoe at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?I hear ya Bud.
> >
> > On my 76B with Minilite wheels we determined that a 195 was the max I
> could go. The Kelly 195/70R14 handle well at moderate and spirted driving,
> but I also have the upgraded suspension front and rear.
> >
> > They look great with the lower profile (0.1?) and the tread is 0.6?
> wider than the 185.  But again, later model B with Minilites not wire
> wheels.
> >
> > Ren
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 23, 2023, at 1:45 PM, abcoz--- via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Sorry for the late response, but we've been out of town for most of
> the past week and I'm just getting caught up to everything here, at home.
> >>
> >> Personally, I favor the 175 width, over the 185.  Unless you are doing
> a lot of fast driving, there is NOTHING to be gained from the extra 10mm of
> tread width, except heavier steering effort and extra rolling resistance.
>  Even if you do a lot of fast driving, you are very unlikely to drive fast
> enough to realize the small amount of extra grip the 185s MAY give you.
> >>
> >> While fat tires may look "cooler", they are mostly for show and usually
> cost more, too.
> >>
> >> Bud
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Wpta <wpta-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of barrym56--- via
> Wpta
> >> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 7:58 AM
> >> To: WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>
> >> Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
> >>
> >> Getting ready to buy tires for 1971 MGB with wire wheels.
> >> What size tires do you recommend?
> >> If my research is correct (maybe not) the wheel width is 4.5?
> >> So 175 70 or 185 70?
> >> Barry Martin
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> wpta at autox.team.net
> >>
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From abcoz at hky.com  Wed Aug 23 20:53:19 2023
From: abcoz at hky.com (abcoz at hky.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 22:53:19 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
In-Reply-To: <E496E9FD-8001-47D3-8494-E393AD1C1DBA@icloud.com>
References: <31F7D9B6-1C73-4A10-8C9E-FDDBE2445666@yahoo.com>
 <E496E9FD-8001-47D3-8494-E393AD1C1DBA@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <007501d9d636$23fef5f0$6bfce1d0$@hky.com>

I highly recommend Calabro Tire, in Bridgeville.  They've been in business for around 80 years and are still owned & operated by the same family.  They are quite comfortable with wire wheels.

Bud

-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Martin <barrym56 at icloud.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 4:25 PM
To: Ren Bartoe <ren_bartoe at yahoo.com>
Cc: abcoz at hky.com; WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts

A new turn of events. The local tire shop I?ve been dealing with now has a young fellow working there. His head nearly exploded when I mentioned wire wheels, liners and tubes. He?s a nice kid and I don?t want to go over his head to the owner who was ok with everything last we talked. I?d prefer to find someone else. Bud, I think you recommended Calabro Tire. Any other recommendations?
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Ren Bartoe <ren_bartoe at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I hear ya Bud.  
> 
> On my 76B with Minilite wheels we determined that a 195 was the max I could go. The Kelly 195/70R14 handle well at moderate and spirted driving, but I also have the upgraded suspension front and rear.
> 
> They look great with the lower profile (0.1?) and the tread is 0.6? wider than the 185.  But again, later model B with Minilites not wire wheels.
> 
> Ren
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2023, at 1:45 PM, abcoz--- via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Sorry for the late response, but we've been out of town for most of the past week and I'm just getting caught up to everything here, at home.
>> 
>> Personally, I favor the 175 width, over the 185.  Unless you are doing a lot of fast driving, there is NOTHING to be gained from the extra 10mm of tread width, except heavier steering effort and extra rolling resistance.   Even if you do a lot of fast driving, you are very unlikely to drive fast enough to realize the small amount of extra grip the 185s MAY give you.
>> 
>> While fat tires may look "cooler", they are mostly for show and usually cost more, too.
>> 
>> Bud
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wpta <wpta-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of barrym56--- via Wpta
>> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 7:58 AM
>> To: WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
>> 
>> Getting ready to buy tires for 1971 MGB with wire wheels.
>> What size tires do you recommend?
>> If my research is correct (maybe not) the wheel width is 4.5?
>> So 175 70 or 185 70?
>> Barry Martin
>> _______________________________________________
>> wpta at autox.team.net
>> 
>> -------------------------------------
>> 
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>> 
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From barrym56 at icloud.com  Thu Aug 24 05:37:08 2023
From: barrym56 at icloud.com (barrym56 at icloud.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 07:37:08 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
In-Reply-To: <007501d9d636$23fef5f0$6bfce1d0$@hky.com>
References: <31F7D9B6-1C73-4A10-8C9E-FDDBE2445666@yahoo.com>
 <E496E9FD-8001-47D3-8494-E393AD1C1DBA@icloud.com>
 <007501d9d636$23fef5f0$6bfce1d0$@hky.com>
Message-ID: <53ADA52C-1CE8-473E-B82A-0000510122B1@icloud.com>

Once again, thank you all!
Going to give Calabro a call, since they are closet to me, and see what they can get for 4 1/2? wheel.
Barry

> On Aug 23, 2023, at 10:53 PM, <abcoz at hky.com> <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
> 
> I highly recommend Calabro Tire, in Bridgeville.  They've been in business for around 80 years and are still owned & operated by the same family.  They are quite comfortable with wire wheels.
> 
> Bud
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Martin <barrym56 at icloud.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 4:25 PM
> To: Ren Bartoe <ren_bartoe at yahoo.com>
> Cc: abcoz at hky.com; WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
> 
> A new turn of events. The local tire shop I?ve been dealing with now has a young fellow working there. His head nearly exploded when I mentioned wire wheels, liners and tubes. He?s a nice kid and I don?t want to go over his head to the owner who was ok with everything last we talked. I?d prefer to find someone else. Bud, I think you recommended Calabro Tire. Any other recommendations?
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Ren Bartoe <ren_bartoe at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I hear ya Bud.  
>> 
>> On my 76B with Minilite wheels we determined that a 195 was the max I could go. The Kelly 195/70R14 handle well at moderate and spirted driving, but I also have the upgraded suspension front and rear.
>> 
>> They look great with the lower profile (0.1?) and the tread is 0.6? wider than the 185.  But again, later model B with Minilites not wire wheels.
>> 
>> Ren
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2023, at 1:45 PM, abcoz--- via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Sorry for the late response, but we've been out of town for most of the past week and I'm just getting caught up to everything here, at home.
>>> 
>>> Personally, I favor the 175 width, over the 185.  Unless you are doing a lot of fast driving, there is NOTHING to be gained from the extra 10mm of tread width, except heavier steering effort and extra rolling resistance.   Even if you do a lot of fast driving, you are very unlikely to drive fast enough to realize the small amount of extra grip the 185s MAY give you.
>>> 
>>> While fat tires may look "cooler", they are mostly for show and usually cost more, too.
>>> 
>>> Bud
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Wpta <wpta-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of barrym56--- via Wpta
>>> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 7:58 AM
>>> To: WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: [WPTA] Question for MGB experts
>>> 
>>> Getting ready to buy tires for 1971 MGB with wire wheels.
>>> What size tires do you recommend?
>>> If my research is correct (maybe not) the wheel width is 4.5?
>>> So 175 70 or 185 70?
>>> Barry Martin
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> wpta at autox.team.net
>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> http://www.wptriumph.org
>>> 
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> wpta at autox.team.net
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>> 
> 


From lillyrep at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 24 09:54:36 2023
From: lillyrep at yahoo.com (Ken Mikos)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 15:54:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [WPTA] Lunch article
References: <1998095111.2318145.1692892476985.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Please let me know that you received and where able to open the article.?
Ken?
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From pittdaddy at aol.com  Thu Aug 24 11:35:48 2023
From: pittdaddy at aol.com (pittdaddy)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:35:48 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Lunch article
In-Reply-To: <1998095111.2318145.1692892476985@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1828356108.1172922.1692898556798@aol.com>

Hi Ken,? ? When is the next breakfast in Murrysville?FredSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
-------- Original message --------From: Ken Mikos via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> Date: 8/24/23  12:48 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Ed Major <ejmajortr3a at comcast.net>, Jim Keenan <mij57 at msn.com>, Bruce Stutzman <stutztr4 at gmail.com>, WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net> Subject: [WPTA] Lunch article Please let me know that you received and where able to open the article.?Ken?
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From ren_bartoe at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 24 13:12:43 2023
From: ren_bartoe at yahoo.com (Ren Bartoe)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 15:12:43 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Lunch article
In-Reply-To: <1828356108.1172922.1692898556798@aol.com>
References: <1828356108.1172922.1692898556798@aol.com>
Message-ID: <A68E33B6-6428-418B-A693-29A419638E9D@yahoo.com>

Ken, 

Ren Bartoe here (the one MG).  Got it and looks good. Add some of Mike?s photos!

Thanks,

Ren



Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2023, at 2:14 PM, pittdaddy via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi Ken,
>     When is the next breakfast in Murrysville?
> Fred
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ken Mikos via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
> Date: 8/24/23 12:48 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Ed Major <ejmajortr3a at comcast.net>, Jim Keenan <mij57 at msn.com>, Bruce Stutzman <stutztr4 at gmail.com>, WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [WPTA] Lunch article
> 
> Please let me know that you received and where able to open the article. 
> 
> Ken 
> _______________________________________________
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Thu Aug 24 20:14:13 2023
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (EDWARD WOODS)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 22:14:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WPTA] Lunch article
In-Reply-To: <A68E33B6-6428-418B-A693-29A419638E9D@yahoo.com>
References: <1828356108.1172922.1692898556798@aol.com>
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From gilsmith113 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 12:58:37 2023
From: gilsmith113 at gmail.com (Gil Smith)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 14:58:37 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Lunch article
In-Reply-To: <261044433.26324.1692929653674@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <1828356108.1172922.1692898556798@aol.com>
 <A68E33B6-6428-418B-A693-29A419638E9D@yahoo.com>
 <261044433.26324.1692929653674@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CAPPQekybipZiHSSjC=ZvTBgvDLv7wHLG_pf7FbXLP-8jMTUCTQ@mail.gmail.com>

And one '75 Mini!

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 10:26?PM EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Then there were 2 MG?s. You forgot to count my TF!
>
> Ed
>
> On 08/24/2023 3:12 PM EDT Ren Bartoe via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Ken,
>
> Ren Bartoe here (the one MG).  Got it and looks good. Add some of Mike?s
> photos!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ren
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 24, 2023, at 2:14 PM, pittdaddy via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Ken,
>     When is the next breakfast in Murrysville?
> Fred
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ken Mikos via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
> Date: 8/24/23 12:48 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Ed Major <ejmajortr3a at comcast.net>, Jim Keenan <mij57 at msn.com>, Bruce
> Stutzman <stutztr4 at gmail.com>, WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [WPTA] Lunch article
>
> Please let me know that you received and where able to open the article.
>
> Ken
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From mij57 at msn.com  Fri Aug 25 16:33:57 2023
From: mij57 at msn.com (Jim Keenan)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 22:33:57 +0000
Subject: [WPTA] Lunch article
In-Reply-To: <CAPPQekybipZiHSSjC=ZvTBgvDLv7wHLG_pf7FbXLP-8jMTUCTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1828356108.1172922.1692898556798@aol.com>
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And a TR8

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2023, at 5:19 PM, Gil Smith via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
And one '75 Mini!

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 10:26?PM EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net<mailto:wpta at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Then there were 2 MG?s. You forgot to count my TF!

Ed
On 08/24/2023 3:12 PM EDT Ren Bartoe via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net<mailto:wpta at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Ken,

Ren Bartoe here (the one MG).  Got it and looks good. Add some of Mike?s photos!

Thanks,

Ren



Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2023, at 2:14 PM, pittdaddy via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net<mailto:wpta at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Hi Ken,
    When is the next breakfast in Murrysville?
Fred



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device


-------- Original message --------
From: Ken Mikos via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net<mailto:wpta at autox.team.net>>
Date: 8/24/23 12:48 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Ed Major <ejmajortr3a at comcast.net<mailto:ejmajortr3a at comcast.net>>, Jim Keenan <mij57 at msn.com<mailto:mij57 at msn.com>>, Bruce Stutzman <stutztr4 at gmail.com<mailto:stutztr4 at gmail.com>>, WPTA <wpta at autox.team.net<mailto:wpta at autox.team.net>>
Subject: [WPTA] Lunch article

Please let me know that you received and where able to open the article.

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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Thu Aug 24 12:07:55 2023
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 14:07:55 -0400
Subject: [WPTA] Lunch article
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Yes, I got it, thank you.

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 12:45?PM Ken Mikos via Wpta <wpta at autox.team.net>
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From ejmajortr3a at comcast.net  Wed Aug 30 11:18:10 2023
From: ejmajortr3a at comcast.net (Ed Major)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:18:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [WPTA] September Dzus Dnuz
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Hello All,
 
The September 2023 Dzus Dnuz has been uploaded to the web site at:
http://www.wptriumph.org/
 under the ?Members Access? section.
There are 6 extra pages in the electronic Dnuz with photos from recent club events
Thank you.
 
Ed Major
'58 TR3A, '68 TR250, '73 TR6
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