From skip at shervington.org  Sun Dec 11 19:20:03 2011
From: skip at shervington.org (Skip Shervington)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:20:03 -0800
Subject: [VTR] TR3A Nippndenso Alternator Conversion
Message-ID: <92F59D5F-27F0-45F5-AA16-F6DA7DAD0EE2@shervington.org>

I need some advice.  I believe I successfully converted my generator to an
alternator, but when checking the battery voltage I found the following:

At rest = 12.72
Running = 12.61
Under load = 12.54

I thought the alternator would not allow drop in voltage?  How can I tell if
the alternator is working?   Here is a link to photos and a diagram of how I
wired it.  Thanks for your thoughts!  http://flic.kr/s/aHsjxiGi5g

Skip Shervington
1958 TR3A  TS34885L

From skip at shervington.org  Tue Dec 13 22:05:34 2011
From: skip at shervington.org (Skip Shervington)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:05:34 -0800
Subject: [VTR] [TTSCC] Ugh! Alternator Not Charging
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Working!  Thanks Bob and John Lye from vtr mailing list.   Made the move of
the wire and getting 13.8 volts running at idle! http://flic.kr/s/aHsjxiGi5g


On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote:

>
> Rich, that black line is the connection to the car, that would make 3 wires.
BUT..........  wait for it, drum roll please! Skip, your diagram shows the
black line gong to the solenoid on the gear reduction starter, if I remember
correctly, you left the orginal starter solenoid in situ. Unless you've
removed it since, the only time you are going to have continuity to the
battery for the alternator output is when the starter is engaged. I think it
should be connected to the baterry side of the original relay, not the relay
on the starter. Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Richard & Karyn Gibbon" <krgibbon at volcano.net>
> To: TTSCC at yahoogroups.com, "jsisler" <jsisler at cruzio.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:22:49 AM
> Subject: RE: [TTSCC] Ugh! Alternator Not Charging
>
>
>
>
> Hi Skip,
> I may be wrong, but I believe per your diagram there should be another wire
going to the car from the large nut on the alternator. That nut is the output
voltage to the car.
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
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Shervington
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> Cc: TTSCC at yahoogroups.com
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>
> Here you go John
>
> The red ign light is not on - but shouldn't the volts increase or stay
around 12.72 and not drop?
>
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From skip at shervington.org  Sat Dec 17 16:53:42 2011
From: skip at shervington.org (Skip Shervington)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:53:42 -0800
Subject: [VTR] TR3A Kubota Alternator Conversion Drained Battery
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I celebrated too early - this configuration drained my battery to 1.3 volts.
Any ideas? http://flic.kr/p/aVbmKz

Thanks,

Skip Shervington
1958 TR3A TS3488L


On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:50 AM, R. John Lye wrote:

> From the wiring diagram, it appears that the large "feed"
> wire is connected to the wrong side of the starter solenoid.
> Your diagram has it attached to the starter side of the
> solenoid, whereas it should be attached to the battery
> side.  Unless the solenoid is engaged (that it, while you
> are trying to start the car), the alternator will not me
> connected to the battery.
>
> Good luck,
> John
>
> At 09:20 PM 12/11/2011, Skip Shervington wrote:
>> I need some advice.  I believe I successfully converted my generator to an
>> alternator, but when checking the battery voltage I found the following:
>>
>> At rest = 12.72
>> Running = 12.61
>> Under load = 12.54
>>
>> I thought the alternator would not allow drop in voltage?  How can I tell
if
>> the alternator is working?   Here is a link to photos and a diagram of how
I
>> wired it.  Thanks for your thoughts!  http://flic.kr/s/aHsjxiGi5g
>>
>> Skip Shervington
>> 1958 TR3A  TS34885L
>> _______________________________________________
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> John Lye
> rjl6n at Virginia.edu

From skip at shervington.org  Sat Dec 17 18:29:12 2011
From: skip at shervington.org (Skip Shervington)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:29:12 -0800
Subject: [VTR] TR3A Kubota Alternator Conversion Drained Battery
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The battery drained while sitting.  Maybe I fried the original solenoid when
it was hooked up wrong and now it is constantly on?  This picture shows how I
have it wired now: http://flic.kr/p/aVbmKz


On Dec 17, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote:

>
> Is it draining while not in use or while driving? I would suspect a short
somewhere and the primary candidate is that original solenoid. How do you have
that wired? Is it possible its being constantly activated?
>
>
>
> From: TTSCC at yahoogroups.com [mailto:TTSCC at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Skip
Shervington
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:54 PM
> To: R. John Lye; vtr at autox.team.net; TTSCC at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [TTSCC] TR3A Kubota Alternator Conversion Drained Battery
>
>
>
>
>
> I celebrated too early - this configuration drained my battery to 1.3 volts.
Any ideas? http://flic.kr/p/aVbmKz
>
> Thanks,
>
> Skip Shervington
> 1958 TR3A TS3488L
>
>
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From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sat Dec 17 18:29:38 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:29:38 -0800
Subject: [VTR] TR3A Kubota Alternator Conversion Drained Battery
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> I celebrated too early - this configuration drained my 
> battery to 1.3 volts.
> Any ideas? http://flic.kr/p/aVbmKz

I believe the "large yellow" wire that you currently have going to
brown/blue & brown/white actually needs to go to a white wire somewhere
(like maybe on the top of the fuse block).  You'll also need to join the
brown/blue and brown/white wires together securely.

-- Randall  

From skip at shervington.org  Sat Dec 17 19:09:49 2011
From: skip at shervington.org (Skip Shervington)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:09:49 -0800
Subject: [VTR] TR3A Kubota Alternator Conversion Drained Battery
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Thanks Randall - There are two #9 White wires (a large and small) that come
from the coil and the ignition switch and terminate together at the A3 fuse.
You can see them in this photo here under the orange wire tie:
http://flic.kr/p/aVaRb2  Do you think I should try moving the yellow wire into
this fuse junction?


On Dec 17, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Randall wrote:

>> I celebrated too early - this configuration drained my
>> battery to 1.3 volts.
>> Any ideas? http://flic.kr/p/aVbmKz
>
> I believe the "large yellow" wire that you currently have going to
> brown/blue & brown/white actually needs to go to a white wire somewhere
> (like maybe on the top of the fuse block).  You'll also need to join the
> brown/blue and brown/white wires together securely.
>
> -- Randall
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From TR3driver at ca.rr.com  Sat Dec 17 19:43:48 2011
From: TR3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:43:48 -0800
Subject: [VTR] TR3A Kubota Alternator Conversion Drained Battery
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> Thanks Randall - There are two #9 White wires (a large and 
> small) that come from the coil and the ignition switch and 
> terminate together at the A3 fuse.  You can see them in this 
> photo here under the orange wire tie: http://flic.kr/p/aVaRb2 
>  Do you think I should try moving the yellow wire into this 
> fuse junction?

Yes, that's the idea.  You should also charge that battery promptly.  They
don't like being run down that flat, and leaving them that way is even
worse.

-- Randall  

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