From jercurry at comcast.net Tue Jan 22 23:35:26 2008 From: jercurry at comcast.net (Jeremiah Curry) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:35:26 -0700 Subject: [VTR] TR3 compression test Message-ID: <002901c85d8a$244327b0$6a01a8c0@screamer> howdy all, I just put the head back on my TR3 the other day and wanted to make sure I did everything right, and that the parts were all good. We did a leak down test and 2 of the cylinders where "yellow" and two were "green". To be doubly sure, I borrowed a compression tester from autozone and did that test. My starter has decided not to cooperate since then, so I had to turn the engine over with the hand-crank. Due the manual nature, I only went through about 2-3 compression cycles, but the PSI rating for the cylenders were from 30-60 psi. I understand I should be looking for 120 psi. Is this an indication that something is horribly wrong? to test the tester, we put it on my brother's 5.2L jeep v8 and it got 85 psi, that seemed a little low too. Any insight would be appreciated. thanks, Jeremiah [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From mark at bradakis.com Tue Jan 22 23:55:12 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:55:12 -0700 Subject: [VTR] [Bmcu] TR3 compression test In-Reply-To: <001401c85d88$ce1cf9c0$6a01a8c0@screamer> References: <001401c85d88$ce1cf9c0$6a01a8c0@screamer> Message-ID: <4796E4D0.2010408@bradakis.com> I wouldn't worry just yet. Turning the motor over by hand is fairly slow, allowing air to leisurely make its way through the end gaps of the piston rings. So you are going to get quite low readings. But the fact you did get some sort of compression readings instead of 0 indicates that nothing is horribly wrong. I don't know what sort of leakdown test you ran and what 'yellow' and 'green' actually mean, so I can't offer any valid comments on that. But it sounds like you are making progress, and we might see the car at British Field Day this summer. mjb. From jercurry at comcast.net Sun Jan 27 17:27:18 2008 From: jercurry at comcast.net (Jeremiah Curry) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:27:18 -0700 Subject: [VTR] TR3 compression test In-Reply-To: <002901c85d8a$244327b0$6a01a8c0@screamer> Message-ID: <000701c86144$8ad0f6c0$0202fea9@screamer> Thanks to everyone who responded. The consensus seems to be that I shouldn't worried till I have at least tested with the starter. On a side note, the starter worked last time I tried (a few months ago) but now just spins without engaging. Thanks again, Jeremiah -----Original Message----- From: vtr-bounces+jercurry=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:vtr-bounces+jercurry=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeremiah Curry Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:35 PM To: vtr at autox.team.net Subject: [VTR] TR3 compression test howdy all, I just put the head back on my TR3 the other day and wanted to make sure I did everything right, and that the parts were all good. We did a leak down test and 2 of the cylinders where "yellow" and two were "green". To be doubly sure, I borrowed a compression tester from autozone and did that test. My starter has decided not to cooperate since then, so I had to turn the engine over with the hand-crank. Due the manual nature, I only went through about 2-3 compression cycles, but the PSI rating for the cylenders were from 30-60 psi. I understand I should be looking for 120 psi. Is this an indication that something is horribly wrong? to test the tester, we put it on my brother's 5.2L jeep v8 and it got 85 psi, that seemed a little low too. Any insight would be appreciated. thanks, Jeremiah From Herald948 at aol.com Sun Jan 27 17:36:21 2008 From: Herald948 at aol.com (Herald948 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:36:21 EST Subject: [VTR] TR3 compression test Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/2008 7:27:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jercurry at comcast.net writes: On a side note, the starter worked last time I tried (a few months ago) but now jFrom trglory at comcast.net Sun Jan 27 18:51:49 2008 From: trglory at comcast.net (Joe Laurito) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:51:49 -0500 Subject: [VTR] TR3 compression test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007f01c86150$59d4dee0$0d7e9ca0$@net> Jeremiah; I was going to suggest that you whack the starter a few times with a BFH and push the button again. And make sure you have the ignition switch ON. (Don't ask me how I know about THAT hot tip.) Joe -----Original Message----- From: vtr-bounces+trglory=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:vtr-bounces+trglory=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Herald948 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:36 PM To: jercurry at comcast.net; vtr at autox.team.net; bmcu at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [VTR] TR3 compression test In a message dated 1/27/2008 7:27:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jercurry at comcast.net writes: On a side note, the starter worked last time I tried (a few months ago) but now just spins without engaging. That possibly could be just a bit of dirt or "flash rust" from moisture in the air that has bound up the starter Bendix (assuming original type starter here). It's worth pulling the starter and cleaning the drive as necessary, but don't lubricate it once clean (except maybe sparingly with a dry graphite type of lubricant)! Any oily lubricant will only attract dirt and make it stick again.... --Andy Mace No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM From Chip19474 at aol.com Tue Jan 29 14:10:48 2008 From: Chip19474 at aol.com (Chip19474 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:10:48 EST Subject: [VTR] Shift Light Message-ID: List, Has anyone installed a shift light on their TR6 or TR4? I disassembled the tach, cleaned and carefully oiled/restored it back in 1999 during the early stages of my TR6 restoration project. It is accurate in warm and hot weather but this past fall I noticed that it randomly seems to want to lag a bit past 4000 rpm on cooler days. Since cooler days and evenings are when I really like to "exercise" her (to take advantage of that denser cold air fuel charge) and since my motor has been extensively modified allowing me to seek a higher, non stock redline, I'm thinking of installing a shift light so I don't send a connecting rod through the block some day. I've looked in JEGS and Summit Racing catalogs to get ideas. I don't want something that's too tacky or looks like I should be lining up at the local drag strip. Unfortunately, most of the lights I've seen are also a little too large (out of scale) for the 6's dashboard. Any ideas? Footnote - yes I know that I can probably solve the cold day sluggishness by removing the tach, cleaning again and re-oiling but it's just not quite "bad" enough to do that yet and wouldn't it be really unique to know exactly when you've reached redline instead of relying solely on interpretation!? TIA, Chip Krout Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. Skippack, PA 1976 TR6 CF57822U **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From spitlist at cox.net Tue Jan 29 14:26:25 2008 From: spitlist at cox.net (Joe Curry) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:26:25 -0700 Subject: [VTR] Shift Light References: Message-ID: <001501c862bd$9a5594a0$2d02a8c0@Belkin> When I was doing serious autocrossing, I had a shift light installed on my Spit and it worked pretty well. Since in an autocross the driver is very busy cranking on the wheel, the light is a nice warning to let him know when to shift without taking the time to look at the tach (even if it is working). But Ihave not seen any of them that are not as you put it "Tacky"! They are all very large in order that the light is easily visible. There are electronic tachimeters available with built in shift lights. So if your tach is not working, you might find one that fits into your current mounting hole. Joe C. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: [VTR] Shift Light > List, > > Has anyone installed a shift light on their TR6 or TR4? I disassembled the > tach, cleaned and carefully oiled/restored it back in 1999 during the early > stages of my TR6 restoration project. It is accurate in warm and hot weather > but this past fall I noticed that it randomly seems to want to lag a bit past > 4000 rpm on cooler days. Since cooler days and evenings are when I really > like to "exercise" her (to take advantage of that denser cold air fuel charge) > and since my motor has been extensively modified allowing me to seek a > higher, non stock redline, I'm thinking of installing a shift light so I don't > send a connecting rod through the block some day. > > I've looked in JEGS and Summit Racing catalogs to get ideas. I don't want > something that's too tacky or looks like I should be lining up at the local > drag strip. Unfortunately, most of the lights I've seen are also a little too > large (out of scale) for the 6's dashboard. > > Any ideas? Footnote - yes I know that I can probably solve the cold day > sluggishness by removing the tach, cleaning again and re-oiling but it's just > not quite "bad" enough to do that yet and wouldn't it be really unique to know > exactly when you've reached redline instead of relying solely on > interpretation!? > > TIA, > > Chip Krout > Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. > Skippack, PA > 1976 TR6 CF57822U > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register > http://www.vtr.org > > You are recieving this at spitlist at cox.net > > Vtr at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vtr > > http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs at consolidated.net Wed Jan 30 07:09:59 2008 From: triumphs at consolidated.net (Ken Gano palm top) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:09:59 -0600 Subject: [VTR] Shift Light In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You might find a few suggestion here. http://www.egauges.com/eg_typeI.asp?Type=Tachometer&Face=All&Bezel=All&Light ing=All&Letter=All&Needle=All&Diameter=All&Manf=All Chip wrote : Any ideas TIA, Chip Krout Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. Skippack, PA 1976 TR6 CF57822U No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.15/1249 - Release Date: 1/29/2008 9:51 AM From Herald948 at aol.com Sun Jan 27 17:36:21 2008 From: Herald948 at aol.com (Herald948 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:36:21 EST Subject: [VTR] TR3 compression test Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/2008 7:27:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jercurry at comcast.net writes: On a side note, the starter worked last time I tried (a few months ago) but now just spins without engaging. That possibly could be just a bit of dirt or "flash rust" from moisture in the air that has bound up the starter Bendix (assuming original type starter here). It's worth pulling the starter and cleaning the drive as necessary, but don't lubricate it once clean (except maybe sparingly with a dry graphite type of lubricant)! Any oily lubricant will only attract dirt and make it stick again.... --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: _http://triumph-herald.us_ (http://triumph-herald.us/) **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489