From mark at bradakis.com  Sun Dec  2 14:38:15 2007
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J. Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:38:15 -0700
Subject: [VTR] Initial test
Message-ID: <475325C7.8040301@bradakis.com>

Juan, Too.

mjb.

From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Dec  5 20:27:02 2007
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J. Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:27:02 -0700
Subject: [VTR] List changes
Message-ID: <47576C06.5000103@bradakis.com>

In case you are wondering about that odd email welcoming you to a list

you already receive, I've switched vtr at autox.team.net from
majordomo to mailman list management software.   Some things will be
different, some will be the same.  As before, if you want to send mail
to vtr at autox.team.net you send mail to vtr at autox.team.net
- you'd be surprised at how many folks can NOT figure that one out!

With Mailman, managing your subscription should be more web friendly.
You can go to the web pages listed in the messages and muck about with
your settings.  

One handy option is the 'nomail' feature.  If you are going to be away
from your email for a while, you can set your membership to nomail, and
then back to regular delivery upon your return.  A bit easier than having
to unsubscribe and then subscribe again.

A useful way to make use of the nomail feature is to enable submissions
from multiple addresses.  For example, one might want to subscribe
a-student at diploma.mill.edu as your main address.  But sometimes you
send mail from work, so you can subscribe busybee at slave.labor.com
and set the second address to nomail.  So messages you send from
either address will pass the membership test, but you won't get multiple
copies of each list message.

RealSoonNow I'll have a web page that covers some more of the various
differences and features.  And I'll fix the mailman links so that the
archive links actually point to http://www.team.net/archive  !!

mjb.

ps: Blake Discher, have you been getting my messages about VTR stuff?

From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Fri Dec  7 13:16:34 2007
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:16:34 -0700
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
Message-ID: <4759AA22.40200@tscusa.org>

Greetings all,
I know this list has not been used for a while, but Mark has given it a 
kick start.

In the next few days I will be posting an email requesting support from 
all North American Triumph Clubs towards the John Macartney 2009 Charity 
Drive.

So are the various chapters from VTR still listening to this email digest??

Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield!

From glemon at neb.rr.com  Fri Dec  7 13:47:15 2007
From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:47:15 -0600
Subject: [VTR] This List
Message-ID: <24063629.414031197060435728.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web21-z01>

Hello, I am a refugee from the Healey camp, having just sold one and bought a Triumph TR, the Healey e-mail list was and is a great resource for technical advice, parts exchange, and general brit car comraderie, I signed up for the VTR list but assumed it didin't take because I didn't see anything.

This is a great resource if you don't use it, but I doubt my comments will turn it around overnight, so where it the cyber neighborbood you guys hang out in.

Greg Lemon
68 TR250

From darrellw at ipns.com  Fri Dec  7 13:51:22 2007
From: darrellw at ipns.com (Darrell Walker)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 12:51:22 -0800
Subject: [VTR] This List
In-Reply-To: <24063629.414031197060435728.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web21-z01>
References: <24063629.414031197060435728.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web21-z01>
Message-ID: <9BC67724-AFBD-4EF3-A409-D7D57693175F@ipns.com>

Hi Greg,

Welcome!  You will find more traffic at the Triumphs list:

Triumphs at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs

The VTR is specific to VTR, and is pretty quiet.

-Darrell

On Dec 7, 2007, at 12:47 PM, <glemon at neb.rr.com> <glemon at neb.rr.com>  
wrote:

> Hello, I am a refugee from the Healey camp, having just sold one  
> and bought a Triumph TR, the Healey e-mail list was and is a great  
> resource for technical advice, parts exchange, and general brit car  
> comraderie, I signed up for the VTR list but assumed it didin't  
> take because I didn't see anything.
>
> This is a great resource if you don't use it, but I doubt my  
> comments will turn it around overnight, so where it the cyber  
> neighborbood you guys hang out in.
>
> Greg Lemon
> 68 TR250
> _______________________________________________
>
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register
> http://www.vtr.org
>
> You are recieving this at darrellw at ipns.com
>
> Vtr at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vtr
>
> http://www.team.net/archive

From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Fri Dec  7 14:49:53 2007
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:49:53 -0800
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
In-Reply-To: <4759AA22.40200@tscusa.org>
References: <4759AA22.40200@tscusa.org>
Message-ID: <000001c8391b$196e2c10$6a5636cc@jdnet.deere.com>

> So are the various chapters from VTR still listening to this 
> email digest??

I'm listening, Glenn.  

Unless someone else chimes in, I guess I'm probably representing SCTOA.
Obviously I can't make commitments on behalf of the club, but I can take the
issue to the next board meeting (which will be Jan 8 2008).

Likely Bob Muzio will represent TRSC if he's here ... if not, I guess I'll
wear that hat too.

I'm really excited about Jonmac's drive ... thinking maybe I might even find
time to caravan with him for a few western areas.  Two Stags is twice as
cool as one, right ?
<g>

Randall

From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Fri Dec  7 15:19:05 2007
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:19:05 -0700
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
In-Reply-To: <000001c8391b$196e2c10$6a5636cc@jdnet.deere.com>
References: <4759AA22.40200@tscusa.org>
	<000001c8391b$196e2c10$6a5636cc@jdnet.deere.com>
Message-ID: <4759C6D9.1000608@tscusa.org>

Excellent Randall.

Just 2 Stags??   :o

 I hope there will be literally caravans along different portions, 
certainly as our different "regions" get coordinated along with VTR and 
the other Triumph Clubs.

The more the merrier of course.

Next goal is to get this list back up to snuff for VTR issues as many of 
the emails may be a bit stale.

Randall wrote:
>> So are the various chapters from VTR still listening to this 
>> email digest??
>>     
>
> I'm listening, Glenn.  
>
> Unless someone else chimes in, I guess I'm probably representing SCTOA.
> Obviously I can't make commitments on behalf of the club, but I can take the
> issue to the next board meeting (which will be Jan 8 2008).
>
> Likely Bob Muzio will represent TRSC if he's here ... if not, I guess I'll
> wear that hat too.
>
> I'm really excited about Jonmac's drive ... thinking maybe I might even find
> time to caravan with him for a few western areas.  Two Stags is twice as
> cool as one, right ?
> <g>
>
> Randall
>
>   

-- 
Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield!

From pethier at comcast.net  Fri Dec  7 15:57:06 2007
From: pethier at comcast.net (pethier at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:57:06 +0000
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
Message-ID: <120720072257.10273.4759CFC2000E5BC70000282122007354469D0A07089B0A9F@comcast.net>

From: "Glenn A. Merrell" <StagByTriumph at tscusa.org>
> So are the various chapters from VTR still listening to this email digest??

I'm Phil Ethier, President of Minnesota Triumphs, and I read you five-by-five.

--
Phil Ethier  West Side  Saint Paul Minnesota  USA
1962 Triumph TR4 CT2846L, 1992 Saturn SL2, 1993 Suburban,
1994 Miata C package
pethier [at] comcast [dot] net    http://forum.mnautox.com/forums/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier
I decry the textmessagization of the American-English language.

From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Fri Dec  7 16:16:36 2007
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:16:36 -0700
Subject: [VTR] Triumph Trans AmeriCan 2009 Charity Run "Selection, prep,
 delivery and Support of the Triumph Stag"
Message-ID: <4759D454.6080702@tscusa.org>

    Selection, prep, delivery and Support of the Triumph Stag
    <http://triumphtransamerica.org.uk/?p=47>

 | December 7, 2007

*Greetings Triumph Enthusiasts and Friends,*

Glenn Merrell, Chairman of the Triumph Stag Club USA here.

/*So what is this all about, where are we going, how are we planning to 
get there, and where will it all come to a climax? All questions 
answered in time.
... point is, I need some help ... (like you did not know that already!).
*/

If you have been reading and listening to the various Triumph grape 
vines, I have volunteered to coordinate the selection, preparation, 
delivery, en route maintenance and support of the Triumph Stag that will 
make this epic 10,000 mile journey across North America for Charity.

Why? ...

Please take a minute to visit the Triumph Trans-AmeriCan Charity Drive 
2009 Web site and read how you and your local club can help make this 
epic drive possible. 

Click below now!!
http://triumphtransamerica.org.uk/

I look forward to hearing from you very soon!

Cheers!

-- 
Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
TSN Admin
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield!

From JoeCainPE at aol.com  Fri Dec  7 16:42:24 2007
From: JoeCainPE at aol.com (JoeCainPE at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 18:42:24 EST
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
Message-ID: <c5b.2061b958.348b3460@aol.com>

Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in Northern California here. We're  
listening.
 
We've had some discussion about encouraging Jonmac to arrange his final leg  
from the South San Francisco Bay Area to Triumphest/VTR in San Luis Obispo  so 
we can caravan with him.
 
 
Shameless plug:
 
TTSCC is the oldest continuously operating Triumph club in America (perhaps  
in the world), founded in 1958. Celebrating our 50th anniversary with  
numerous birthday parties throughout the year 2008, with grand finale at  Triumphest 
2008 in South Lake Tahoe, California.

 
Joe Cain
TTSCC Activities Chairperson, 2007, 2008
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/7/2007 12:17:12 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
StagByTriumph at tscusa.org writes:

So are  the various chapters from VTR still listening to this email  digest??







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From Herald948 at aol.com  Fri Dec  7 17:38:11 2007
From: Herald948 at aol.com (Herald948 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 19:38:11 EST
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
Message-ID: <cfc.236b2a76.348b4173@aol.com>

I'm happy to relay any information to the Adirondack Triumph  Association* as 
needed!
 
*Only 30 years old as of 2008. ;-)  

--Andy   Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not  so  much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph 
Herald engine with  wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus   (22)

Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and  Triumph Herald 
Database: _http://triumph-herald.us_ (http://triumph-herald.us/) 




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From TRDOCTOR at aol.com  Fri Dec  7 17:42:01 2007
From: TRDOCTOR at aol.com (TRDOCTOR at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 19:42:01 EST
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
Message-ID: <ce8.200ab5f9.348b4259@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/7/2007 2:17:22 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
StagByTriumph at tscusa.org writes:

Greetings all,
I know this list has not been used for a while, but  Mark has given it a 
kick start.

In the next few days I will be  posting an email requesting support from 
all North American Triumph Clubs  towards the John Macartney 2009 Charity 
Drive.

So are the various  chapters from VTR still listening to this email digest??

Glenn A.  Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
The best trophies  are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead 
bugs on the  windshield!
This list supported in  part by the Vintage Triumph Register
http://www.vtr.org

You are  recieving this at  trdoctor at aol.com

Vtr at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vtr

http://www.team.net/archive


Green Country Triumphs from Tulsa, OK are here!

 
Sam and Carol Clark 
Green Country Triumphs 
TS45355L  O
CC82030U O
Cell: 918-625-6798



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From haroldor at bellsouth.net  Fri Dec  7 21:37:30 2007
From: haroldor at bellsouth.net (Harold O'Reilly)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 22:37:30 -0600
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
References: <120720072257.10273.4759CFC2000E5BC70000282122007354469D0A07089B0A9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001c01c83954$0b6bcf30$1269d444@Harold>

I'm on from British Motoring Club-New Orleans.
Check us out on www.bmcno.org for our big all marques British Car Show on 
March 29, 2008.
Harold O'Reilly
1977 Spitfire
1980 TR7 

From StagHunter at comcast.net  Sat Dec  8 18:50:11 2007
From: StagHunter at comcast.net (Wayne M Simpson)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:50:11 -0500
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
In-Reply-To: <4759AA22.40200@tscusa.org>
References: <4759AA22.40200@tscusa.org>
Message-ID: <475B49D3.4040207@comcast.net>

Glenn A. Merrell wrote:
> Greetings all,
> I know this list has not been used for a while, but Mark has given it a 
> kick start.

It sparks to life every now and again.

> So are the various chapters from VTR still listening to this email digest??

You don't need to be a chapter to subscribe. No one asked me, though I 
am the liaison for the Positive Earth Driver's Club (of Central NJ)
_______________________________________________________________________

Wayne Simpson                                    StagHunter at comcast.net
   1973 Triumph Stag #LE 21416 U
      Carmine Red, Saddle Tan
   1980 Triumph TR7 TPVDJ8AT202532
      Inca Yellow, Golden Tan Check         Lover of Triumph's 3 bastard
Brick Township, NJ                               sons: TR7 - TR8 - STAG
_______________________________________________________________________

From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org  Sat Dec  8 19:01:43 2007
From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:01:43 -0700
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
In-Reply-To: <475B49D3.4040207@comcast.net>
References: <4759AA22.40200@tscusa.org> <475B49D3.4040207@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <475B4C87.1050706@tscusa.org>

Well I sure got about 12 clubs piping up in less than 24 hours.

Wayne, what is the best way to get information out to all the TR7 and 8's? 
There are two lists, then the TR8 club, and world wide wedge in North 
America

Any More?


Wayne M Simpson wrote:
> Glenn A. Merrell wrote:
>   
>> Greetings all,
>> I know this list has not been used for a while, but Mark has given it a 
>> kick start.
>>     
>
> It sparks to life every now and again.
>
>   
>> So are the various chapters from VTR still listening to this email digest??
>>     
>
> You don't need to be a chapter to subscribe. No one asked me, though I 
> am the liaison for the Positive Earth Driver's Club (of Central NJ)
>
>   
I have been subscribed since about 1996.

-- 
Glenn A. Merrell
Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009)
The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield!

From Herald948 at aol.com  Sat Dec  8 19:18:43 2007
From: Herald948 at aol.com (Herald948 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 21:18:43 EST
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
Message-ID: <d51.1adff56c.348caa83@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/8/2007 8:50:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
StagHunter at comcast.net writes:

Glenn A.  Merrell wrote:
> Greetings all,
> I know this list has not been  used for a while, but Mark has given it a 
> kick start.

It  sparks to life every now and again.

> So are the various chapters  from VTR still listening to this email digest??



==AM==
Ah, something I've been meaning to mention is that, at one time, MJB had  set 
up a separate list just for chapters: _vtr-chapters at autox.team.net_ 
(mailto:vtr-chapters at autox.team.net) .  Whether it's still in operation, I don't know 
(we'll see, since I copied this  message to it); whether it's still desirable, 
I don't know, either!  

--Andy   Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not  so  much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph 
Herald engine with  wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus   (22)

Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and  Triumph Herald 
Database: _http://triumph-herald.us_ (http://triumph-herald.us/) 




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From mark at bradakis.com  Sat Dec  8 21:10:58 2007
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J. Bradakis)
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:10:58 -0700
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
In-Reply-To: <000001c8391b$196e2c10$6a5636cc@jdnet.deere.com>
References: <4759AA22.40200@tscusa.org>
	<000001c8391b$196e2c10$6a5636cc@jdnet.deere.com>
Message-ID: <475B6AD2.1040707@bradakis.com>

This list, vtr at autox.team.net was set up about a dozen years ago to
facilitate communication among VTR members.  Back then, there was
no vtr.org and other such resources, so this was one place where folks
could talk about various topics regarding the VTR orginization, and
about Triumphs to some extent.   If one looks at the web page
http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo and http://www.team.net/archive
you will see thee are a number of Triumph related email lists, some
of which continue to have a fairly good flow of traffic.
This VTR list may still be somewhat useful, we shall see.

And as Andy mentioned, the is also a vtr-chapters list, but I had
decided that one wasn't really necessary anymore, so I didn't
mention it or move it from majordomo to mailman.  It will
likely just disappear in a few days, after the dust Andy kicked
up settles a bit ;-)

mjb.

From jibjib at att.net  Sun Dec  9 10:01:18 2007
From: jibjib at att.net (Jack Brooks)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:01:18 -0800
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
In-Reply-To: <475B49D3.4040207@comcast.net>
References: <4759AA22.40200@tscusa.org> <475B49D3.4040207@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001201c83a85$211c3fe0$cb01a8c0@HPPavilion>

>You don't need to be a chapter to subscribe. No one asked me, though I am
the liaison for the 
>Positive Earth Driver's Club (of Central NJ)
_______________________________________________________________________

.  . and I'm the FORMER webmaster and President of NJTA (New Jersey Triumph
Association), now in Seattle.

I'll forward off the info the both NJTA and the local WA club.

Jack

From Dave1massey at cs.com  Sun Dec  9 07:36:06 2007
From: Dave1massey at cs.com (Dave1massey at cs.com)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:36:06 EST
Subject: [VTR] Test Email to VTR chapters
Message-ID: <c75.20ed0aef.348d5756@cs.com>

In a message dated 12/8/2007 7:52:17 PM Central Standard Time, 
StagHunter at comcast.net writes: 
> It sparks to life every now and again.
> 
And that's the advantage of a Mojordom list over a forum.  If there is a 
period of inactivity on a forum folks stop logging on.  A list can remain dormant 
for a long time and spring back to life instantly.

Dave Massey
Liason for St. Louis Triumph Owners Association   

From trglory at comcast.net  Mon Dec 10 11:13:13 2007
From: trglory at comcast.net (Joe Laurito)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:13:13 -0500
Subject: [VTR] The value of a list
In-Reply-To: <c75.20ed0aef.348d5756@cs.com>
References: <c75.20ed0aef.348d5756@cs.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c83b58$547e3fe0$fd7abfa0$@net>

Dave is right on target. Many years ago there was also a list on this server
for newsletter editors (don't know if it still exists). It was not specific
to any club or car type, but it only dealt with items of interest to
newsletter editors. When our local club gave me the job, I had no idea what
I was doing so I joined the list. Didn't learn much because there was no
traffic....wasn't even sure I was subscribed. Finally, I introduced myself
and asked a question and the help came flooding in from people and places I
never heard of. In short order, I was pumping out newsletters like a pro.
After a while, the list went back to sleep until the next person piped up.

That was a lot of years ago but it's just as important to me now. I'm
starting to act a lot like Andy Rooney and short term memory isn't as good
as it used to be. Things work much better when the message comes looking for
me.

Joe Laurito
Liaison for Central PA Triumph Club

------------------------------------

In a message dated Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:36 AM, Dave1massey at cs.com
writes: 

And that's the advantage of a Mojordom list over a forum.  If there is a 
period of inactivity on a forum folks stop logging on.  A list can remain
dormant 
for a long time and spring back to life instantly.

Dave Massey
Liason for St. Louis Triumph Owners Association   
_______________________________________________


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From triumph66 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 10 13:36:22 2007
From: triumph66 at gmail.com (Ted)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:36:22 -0500
Subject: [VTR] The value of a list
In-Reply-To: <002f01c83b58$547e3fe0$fd7abfa0$@net>
References: <c75.20ed0aef.348d5756@cs.com>
	<002f01c83b58$547e3fe0$fd7abfa0$@net>
Message-ID: <a11dceec0712101236o531a1d5dl560fda333f76eb8c@mail.gmail.com>

The list's value is rather like intertwined insect intellect, a.k.a. "Swarm
Intelligence"

<<What do ants and bees have to do with fixing TRiumph sports cars?  A great
deal, it turns out. Individually, social insects are only minimally
intelligent, and their work together is largely self-organized and
unsupervised. Yet collectively they're capable of finding highly efficient
solutions to difficult problems and can adapt automatically to changing
environments. Over the past 20 years, researchers have developed rigorous
mathematical models to describe this phenomenon, which has been dubbed
"swarm intelligence," and they are now applying them to business. Their
research has already helped several companies and car enthusiasts, alike,
develop more efficient ways to schedule factory equipment, divide tasks
among workers, organize people, and even plot strategy. Emulating the way
ants find the shortest path to a new food supply, for example, has led
Hewlett-Packard teams to develop software programs that can find the most
efficient way to route phone traffic over a telecommunications network.
Southwest Airlines has used a similar model to efficiently route cargo. To
allocate labor, honeybees appear to follow one simple but powerful
rule--they seem to specialize in a particular activity unless they perceive
an important need to perform another function. Using that model,
Northwestern University researchers devised a system for painting trucks
that can automatically adapt to changing conditions. In the future, all LBC
listers will structure their intelligence gathering activities using swarm
intelligence principles. The result will be the ultimate self-organizing
enterprise--one that could adapt quickly and instinctively to fast-changing
markets.>>

If you still want more, see the HBR article @
http://www.antoptima.com/admin/pdfrassegna2/pdf028.pdf

Ted

On Dec 10, 2007 1:13 PM, Joe Laurito <trglory at comcast.net> wrote:

> Dave is right on target. Many years ago there was also a list on this
> server for newsletter editors (don't know if it still exists). It was not
> specific to any club or car type, but it only dealt with items of interest
> to newsletter editors. When our local club gave me the job, I had no idea
> what I was doing so I joined the list. Didn't learn much because there was
> no traffic....wasn't even sure I was subscribed. Finally, I introduced
> myself and asked a question and the help came flooding in from people and
> places I never heard of. In short order, I was pumping out newsletters like
> a pro.  After a while, the list went back to sleep until the next person
> piped up.
>
> That was a lot of years ago but it's just as important to me now. I'm
> starting to act a lot like Andy Rooney and short term memory isn't as good
> as it used to be. Things work much better when the message comes looking for
> me.
>
> Joe Laurito
> Liaison for Central PA Triumph Club
> ------------------------------------
>
> In a message dated Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:36 AM, Dave1massey at cs.com
> writes:
>
> And that's the advantage of a Mojordom list over a forum.  If there is a
> period of inactivity on a forum folks stop logging on.  A list can remain
> dormant for a long time and spring back to life instantly.
>
> Dave Massey
> Liason for St. Louis Triumph Owners Association
> _______________________________________________
>

-- 
T.L.L.
1966 TR4A CTC 73139 LO

From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Dec 10 14:21:56 2007
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J. Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:21:56 -0700
Subject: [VTR] The value of a list
In-Reply-To: <a11dceec0712101236o531a1d5dl560fda333f76eb8c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c75.20ed0aef.348d5756@cs.com>
	<002f01c83b58$547e3fe0$fd7abfa0$@net>
	<a11dceec0712101236o531a1d5dl560fda333f76eb8c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <475DADF4.6070200@bradakis.com>

Well, if folks really appreciate the value of the various Team.Net services,
feel free to take a look at the donate.html page, there's a link
to it down near the end of all the VTR messages.

If you do feel like contributing, and want to FAX me
credit card info, wait until tomorrow, since I won't get around to
replacing the toner cart in the fax machine until later tonight.

mjb, the overly pushy but procrastinating salesman ;-)

From Dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Dec 10 15:13:37 2007
From: Dave1massey at cs.com (Dave1massey at cs.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:13:37 EST
Subject: [VTR] The value of a list
Message-ID: <d3a.18dc38ff.348f1411@cs.com>

In a message dated 12/10/2007 2:36:56 PM Central Standard Time, 
triumph66 at gmail.com writes: 
> The list's value is rather like intertwined insect intellect, a.k.a. "Swarm 
> Intelligence"
> 
> <SNIP>
> If you still want more, see the HBR article @ 
> http://www.antoptima.com/admin/pdfrassegna2/pdf028.pdf 
> 
> Ted
> 

An astute and somewhat humbling observation.

Dave   

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 12 11:13:49 2007
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:13:49 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [VTR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 1, Issue 402
Message-ID: <1897417.1197483229313.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dear Listers,
Just got back from a screening of the soon-to-be-realeased Chipmonk film at Fox.  The lead character, Dave, is a somewhat slacker misic writer who lives in a cute little Hollywood bungalow complex, likes the girl next door and drives ............. a tired, but cheerful red TR4 with a primered door ........... kudos ti the studio for not making any British car negative subplots or comments.

Worked for me - film was cute and not as bad as I had imagined. 

Best,

Rick Feibusch
British Car Network
Venice Beach. CA