From james.f.juhas at snet.net Sun May 23 20:53:26 2010 From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (J. F. Juhas) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 22:53:26 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] More NJVGP news: clutch advice needed Message-ID: <4BF9EA26.90407@snet.net> When Roger's engine grenaded at New Jersey, I drove past him but just barely. My MGA is struggling with a slipping clutch, and it made my last few sessions challenging. This is a kevlar solid (no springs) clutch with a competition-grade pressure plate. I think oil past the rear scroll seal has contaminated it, even though conventional wisdom says that oil from there should get flung away from the clutch cover. Has anyone dealt with this? I was able to salvage some sessions by spraying brake cleaner up the drain hole with the clutch out and spinning on the starter. That and cooling off would run okay for about half a race session. Engine is a slightly modified 1622 and 4.30:1 rear. My next plan is to go to a ceramic clutch material (have a source in NJ) and a PCV system to help keep the oil in the engine, although the oil consumption does not seem remarkable. Suggestions welcome. Jim Juhas MGA 311 From John.Desantis at Inficon.com Mon May 24 05:56:22 2010 From: John.Desantis at Inficon.com (John.Desantis at Inficon.com) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 07:56:22 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] (no subject) Message-ID: Anybody out there travel from the US to Canada hauling an enclosed trailer, race car and all the stuff ya pile in for a typical race weekend, got any advice for a first timer? Is there anything I should not bring, like maybe race gas or food and drink? Any tips to make customs easier? Would customs ask for a registration for the car? No ones seen a registration for my car in 40 plus years. I am planning to attend the Vintage Festival at Mosport next month. John DeSantis Mechanical Engineer Inficon Phone 315-434-1196 Fax 315-437-3803 *********************************************************************** NOTICE: - This message including any attachments is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential information protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message including any attachments. *********************************************************************** From james.f.juhas at snet.net Mon May 24 07:04:55 2010 From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (J. F. Juhas) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:04:55 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] [Mgs] More NJVGP news: clutch advice needed In-Reply-To: References: <4BF9EA26.90407@snet.net> Message-ID: <4BFA7977.1000005@snet.net> Rick: Thanks for the suggestions. I have already followed most of your advice. This Kevlar clutch was new and installed with a new PP last September after the previous clutch failed at the end of the LRP Vintage Festival. Since then I raced in two and one half events with seemingly no issues. The half was a shortened LRP Spring Sprints (VSCCA) when I broke a lifter. But before that, I was turning some of my best-ever times at LRP at 1:15. I seem to be having more clutch trouble with this current 1622 engine, where previously, I was running a 1500. Maybe the rear bearing clearances are looser. I was suspicious of the gearbox seal and the gasket; last time it got a new seal and carefully glued-in gasket. I'm not getting and noticeable gearbox fluid loss so I think that's not a contributor to this. I have not refaced the flywheel; didn't have time to do that last Fall, but will now. I had not done the thread sealing idea on the bolts; I'll do that this time. Depending on turnaround, I may install a ceramic clutch and pp that will be rebuilt from cores. I have less than a 2-week turnaround before my next scheduled event. Richard Ewald wrote: > First rule of British clutches (learned many years ago from hard > experience) if the clutch is slipping, change the pressure plate. I > don't care if it is supposed to be the world's best PP, it isn't. > Slipping creates heat, heat weakens pressure plates. ask me how I > know this. (Hint: Been there, done that, and got the T-shirt that goes > with it) > Oil getting past the rear main should be on the wrong side of the > flywheel. However oil can wick up the threads of the flywheel bolts > and then get deposited onto the clutch. > I would have the flywheel machined, and when remounting it, use blue > locktite, or liquid teflon as a thread sealer for the flywheel bolts. > Make sure the front seal on the gear box is good. > Use a new pressure plate. I would also change the disc, but I have no > experience with kevlar discs so you are on your own there. > On general principle, I would make sure that the inside of the > bellhousing was clean so any new leaks would show up. > Good luck > Rick > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:53 PM, J. F. Juhas > wrote: > > When Roger's engine grenaded at New Jersey, I drove past him but > just barely. My MGA is struggling with a slipping clutch, and it > made my last few sessions challenging. This is a kevlar solid (no > springs) clutch with a competition-grade pressure plate. I think > oil past the rear scroll seal has contaminated it, even though > conventional wisdom says that oil from there should get flung away > from the clutch cover. Has anyone dealt with this? I was able to > salvage some sessions by spraying brake cleaner up the drain hole > with the clutch out and spinning on the starter. That and cooling > off would run okay for about half a race session. Engine is a > slightly modified 1622 and 4.30:1 rear. My next plan is to go to > a ceramic clutch material (have a source in NJ) and a PCV system > to help keep the oil in the engine, although the oil consumption > does not seem remarkable. Suggestions welcome. > > Jim Juhas > MGA 311 > _______________________________________________ From dicktill at hotmail.com Mon May 24 16:47:01 2010 From: dicktill at hotmail.com (Dick Tillinger) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 18:47:01 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] More NJVGP news: clutch advice needed In-Reply-To: <4BF9EA26.90407@snet.net> References: <4BF9EA26.90407@snet.net> Message-ID: Hi Jim, Are you sure that you have enough free play at the slave cylinder? If you don't have any or have enough, as things get hot the rod will actually partially disengage the clutch and it will slip. An hydraulically actuated clutch is actually one of the few mechanisms in the world that gets tighter as the it (the clutch) wears, and the adjuster needs to be backed off from time to time. Regards, Dick Tillinger 2-Liter Datsun Roadster -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J. F. Juhas Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:53 PM To: MGVR at yahoogroups.com; vintage-race at autox.team.net; 'mgs at autox.team.net'; MGVR at yahoogroups.com; vintage-race at autox.team.net; 'mgs at autox.team.net' Subject: [Vintage-race] More NJVGP news: clutch advice needed When Roger's engine grenaded at New Jersey, I drove past him but just barely. My MGA is struggling with a slipping clutch, and it made my last few sessions challenging. This is a kevlar solid (no springs) clutch with a competition-grade pressure plate. I think oil past the rear scroll seal has contaminated it, even though conventional wisdom says that oil from there should get flung away from the clutch cover. Has anyone dealt with this? I was able to salvage some sessions by spraying brake cleaner up the drain hole with the clutch out and spinning on the starter. That and cooling off would run okay for about half a race session. Engine is a slightly modified 1622 and 4.30:1 rear. My next plan is to go to a ceramic clutch material (have a source in NJ) and a PCV system to help keep the oil in the engine, although the oil consumption does not seem remarkable. Suggestions welcome. Jim Juhas MGA 311 From John.Desantis at Inficon.com Tue May 25 11:12:53 2010 From: John.Desantis at Inficon.com (John.Desantis at Inficon.com) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:12:53 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Travelling to Canada In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow - lots of replies I want to thank everyone for relating their experiences travailing to Canada / Mosport and back. It certainly will make me feel at ease rather than paranoid of having my stuff confiscated or car impounded. My crew an I are very much looking forward to our first trip to Mosport. See ya all there. John DeSantis Mechanical Engineer Inficon Phone 315-434-1196 Fax 315-437-3803 *********************************************************************** NOTICE: - This message including any attachments is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential information protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message including any attachments. *********************************************************************** From mark at bradakis.com Tue May 25 19:07:34 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 19:07:34 -0600 Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? Message-ID: <4BFC7456.5090906@bradakis.com> http://www.team.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=10 mjb. From twobees at sprynet.com Tue May 25 20:00:38 2010 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 22:00:38 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? In-Reply-To: <4BFC7456.5090906@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <00f001cafc77$3de62080$6401a8c0@normoffice> Can you believe that? Norm -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:08 PM To: Vintage-race at autox.team.net Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? http://www.team.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=10 mjb. _______________________________________________ Vintage-race at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vintage-race/twobees at sprynet.com From 56887 at msn.com Wed May 26 08:29:37 2010 From: 56887 at msn.com (Stewart Smith) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 07:29:37 -0700 Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? In-Reply-To: <00f001cafc77$3de62080$6401a8c0@normoffice> References: <4BFC7456.5090906@bradakis.com>, <00f001cafc77$3de62080$6401a8c0@normoffice> Message-ID: Can you believe an F1 race in Texas? Geez. Stewart Smith 122 National St. Santa Cruz, California, 95060 831-423-0732 bus & fax 831-423-4410 home > From: twobees at sprynet.com > To: mark at bradakis.com; Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 22:00:38 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Texas?? > > Can you believe that? > > Norm > > -----Original Message----- > From: vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:08 PM > To: Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? > > > http://www.team.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=10 > > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vintage-race/twobees at sprynet.com > _______________________________________________ > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vintage-race/56887 at msn.com From RLHardison at verizon.net Wed May 26 08:45:53 2010 From: RLHardison at verizon.net (Richard Hardison) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:45:53 -0500 Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? In-Reply-To: References: <4BFC7456.5090906@bradakis.com>, <00f001cafc77$3de62080$6401a8c0@normoffice> Message-ID: <000001cafce2$244831c0$6cd89540$@net> F-1 ran a race in Dallas in 1984 on an improvised street course at Fair Park (home of the Texas State Fair). It was run in 100+ degree heat in July! The new blacktop portions of the track came apart in the heat. No one was surprised when the race was a one-off. I got some good photos. Richard -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stewart Smith Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:30 AM To: twobees at sprynet.com; mark at bradakis.com; vintage-race at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Texas?? Can you believe an F1 race in Texas? Geez. Stewart Smith 122 National St. Santa Cruz, California, 95060 831-423-0732 bus & fax 831-423-4410 home > From: twobees at sprynet.com > To: mark at bradakis.com; Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 22:00:38 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Texas?? > > Can you believe that? > > Norm > > -----Original Message----- > From: vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:08 PM > To: Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? > > > http://www.team.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=10 > > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vintage-race/twobees at sprynet.com > _______________________________________________ > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vintage-race/56887 at msn.com _______________________________________________ Vintage-race at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vintage-race/rlhardison at verizon.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2897 - Release Date: 05/26/10 01:25:00 From John.Desantis at Inficon.com Wed May 26 08:49:16 2010 From: John.Desantis at Inficon.com (John.Desantis at Inficon.com) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:49:16 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ya - cowboys, NASCAR, pickup trucks with gun racks and rattle snakes. Sounds like the perfect place for F1. Sorry Texas but "What were you thinking" I do hope it is successful - I would love to attend, say if February. John DeSantis Mechanical Engineer Inficon Phone 315-434-1196 Fax 315-437-3803 *********************************************************************** NOTICE: - This message including any attachments is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential information protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message including any attachments. *********************************************************************** Stewart Smith <56887 at msn.com> Sent by: vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net 05/26/2010 10:29 AM To , , "vintage-race at autox.team.net" cc Subject Re: [Vintage-race] Texas?? Can you believe an F1 race in Texas? Geez. Stewart Smith 122 National St. Santa Cruz, California, 95060 831-423-0732 bus & fax 831-423-4410 home > From: twobees at sprynet.com > To: mark at bradakis.com; Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 22:00:38 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Texas?? > > Can you believe that? > > Norm > > -----Original Message----- > From: vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:08 PM > To: Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? > > > http://www.team.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=10 > > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vintage-race/twobees at sprynet.com > _______________________________________________ > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vintage-race/56887 at msn.com _______________________________________________ Vintage-race at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vintage-race/john.desantis at inficon.com From samandgreg at netins.net Wed May 26 08:58:31 2010 From: samandgreg at netins.net (Greg) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:58:31 -0500 Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? In-Reply-To: <000001cafce2$244831c0$6cd89540$@net> References: <4BFC7456.5090906@bradakis.com> <00f001cafc77$3de62080$6401a8c0@normoffice> <000001cafce2$244831c0$6cd89540$@net> Message-ID: Are the pictures viewable? Love to see them. Greg Scharnberg At 09:45 AM 5/26/2010, Richard Hardison wrote: >F-1 ran a race in Dallas in 1984 on an improvised street course at Fair Park >(home of the Texas State Fair). It was run in 100+ degree heat in July! The >new blacktop portions of the track came apart in the heat. No one was >surprised when the race was a one-off. I got some good photos. > >Richard From RRyan at frk.com Wed May 26 10:05:00 2010 From: RRyan at frk.com (Ryan, Richard) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:05:00 -0700 Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? In-Reply-To: References: <4BFC7456.5090906@bradakis.com>, <00f001cafc77$3de62080$6401a8c0@normoffice> Message-ID: Boy, they sure kept it quiet until announcing it as a "done deal." And I thought the Monticello MotorSports Club had a shot at getting it. Dick Ryan 650-312-4022 (24022) Director of Global Insurance Management Franklin Templeton Investments One Franklin Parkway 960/4 San Mateo CA 94403-1906 Fax 650-312-5830 (25830) -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stewart Smith Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:30 AM To: twobees at sprynet.com; mark at bradakis.com; vintage-race at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Texas?? Can you believe an F1 race in Texas? Geez. Stewart Smith 122 National St. Santa Cruz, California, 95060 831-423-0732 bus & fax 831-423-4410 home > From: twobees at sprynet.com > To: mark at bradakis.com; Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 22:00:38 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Texas?? > > Can you believe that? > > Norm > > -----Original Message----- > From: vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:08 PM > To: Vintage-race at autox.team.net > Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? > > > http://www.team.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=10 Notice: All email and instant messages (including attachments) sent to or from Franklin Templeton Investments (FTI) personnel may be retained, monitored and/or reviewed by FTI and its agents, or authorized law enforcement personnel, without further notice or consent. From rkramer3 at austin.rr.com Wed May 26 13:42:31 2010 From: rkramer3 at austin.rr.com (ROADRUNNER) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:42:31 -0500 Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? Message-ID: <82.BE.22658.7997DFB4@hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com> I live in Austin, and while we have all the things you mention the stereotype is outdated. Austin is a pretty dynamic city, high tech based employment and a live music mecca. As long as they hold the race from late Sept. Through May it will be great. -----Original Message----- From: John.Desantis at Inficon.com Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:49 AM To: vintage-race at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Texas?? Ya - cowboys, NASCAR, pickup trucks with gun racks and rattle snakes. Sounds like the perfect place for F1. Sorry Texas but "What were you thinking" I do hope it is successful - I would love to attend, say if February. John DeSantis Mechanical Engineer Inficon Phone 315-434-1196 Fax 315-437-3803 *********************************************************************** NOTICE: - This message including any attachments is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential information protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message including any attachments. *********************************************************************** [The entire original message is not included] From ssteers at comcast.net Wed May 26 16:09:57 2010 From: ssteers at comcast.net (Steve Steers) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:09:57 -0500 Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? In-Reply-To: <82.BE.22658.7997DFB4@hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com> References: <82.BE.22658.7997DFB4@hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Message-ID: <001601cafd20$2e297490$8a7c5db0$@net> I hope the new track will open in time to vintage events. Steve Steers 1958 Echidna -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ROADRUNNER Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:43 PM To: John.Desantis at Inficon.com; vintage-race at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Texas?? I live in Austin, and while we have all the things you mention the stereotype is outdated. Austin is a pretty dynamic city, high tech based employment and a live music mecca. As long as they hold the race from late Sept. Through May it will be great. -----Original Message----- From: John.Desantis at Inficon.com Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:49 AM To: vintage-race at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Texas?? Ya - cowboys, NASCAR, pickup trucks with gun racks and rattle snakes. Sounds like the perfect place for F1. Sorry Texas but "What were you thinking" I do hope it is successful - I would love to attend, say if February. John DeSantis Mechanical Engineer Inficon Phone 315-434-1196 Fax 315-437-3803 *********************************************************************** NOTICE: - This message including any attachments is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential information protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message including any attachments. *********************************************************************** [The entire original message is not included] _______________________________________________ Vintage-race at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vintage-race/ssteers at comcast.net From ejrussell at mebtel.net Thu May 27 15:28:36 2010 From: ejrussell at mebtel.net (Eric J Russell) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:28:36 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Texas?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > As long as they hold the race from late Sept. through May it will be > great. Now THAT is an enduro...! Eric Russell Mebane, NC http://home.mebtel.net/~ejrussell