From Ralph at cloverleaf-auto.com Sun Mar 2 11:15:40 2008 From: Ralph at cloverleaf-auto.com (Ralph Steinberg) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 13:15:40 -0500 Subject: [Vintage-race] BeaveRun 2008 Message-ID: Hi everyone, Hope the new year has found you healthy and ready to enjoy a great year of racing! As we all look at our calendars and plot out what events we are going to I realize that most of you, like myself, will be thinking a lot harder about where we go and what we do. The rising cost of fuel and everything else will cause most of us to stop and think for a few moments. SO, given that I am going to tell you why you must put the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix Association/VRG Historic Races at BeaveRun on your calendar. This is a must event whether you race on the track, do slalom or Solo II events or just like to come out with your sports or vintage car and watch! As most of you know this event, in conjunction with all of the other PVGPA events, raises money for our charities, the Autism Society of Pittsburgh and the Allegheny School. Over the past 25 years we have given these charities over 2.5 million dollars ( not just raised that amount but actually given into the hands of the charities that much money) BeaveRun is entering it's 5th year now and besides kicking the festivities off we have grown into an event that is hard put to be equaled anywhere. With the years of experience that the PVGPA brings on board and all of the talent and expertise of the VRG we have a group that puts on some of the best and safest racing I have experienced anywhere. Add all of the rest, great people working at the track, paddock, registration, etc you have a package hard to beat. We offer something for everyone that wants to come! For those racing on the track ample track time with plenty of actual races on a track that while so safe it is a great place for a novice, difficult to the point that a slight slip and you are watching your friends wave bye-bye! The track lends itself to quick nimble cars which can show a thing to the big muscle cars that are here. Yet the back straight and the entrance combo leading onto it, can allow the big cars to really get cranked up. For those who want to drive a car spiritedly but for whatever reasons the track is not an option we offer a full weekend of Solo II competition. There is ample parking for those who just want to spectate and the roads in the area are fun to bring your classic out onto. There is plenty going on track side, vendors and displays and the drivers and cars to get to know. The paddock is reminiscent of the tracks from the sixties when drivers and cars were right there and only a fence separated you from the pits and track. Your checks and money go directly to the charity. Checks are made directly to the PVGPA and our gate receipts go to the charities also. So no matter how you come in you are helping people who need our help and having a good time. What could be more quintessential American than a bunch of volunteers getting together with a bunch of normal, everyday people and turning a good time into a good deed. Put Beaver on you calendar and see you there You can get entry forms an more information at www.cloverleaf-auto.com (click the vintage Race Button and follow to BeaveRun) www.vrgonline.org and www.pittsburghvintagegrandprix.com Ralph Steinberg PVGPA Director of Competition Historic Races at BeaveRun From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Mar 6 08:23:36 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:23:36 -0600 Subject: [Vintage-race] 1967 Sprite racecar for sale Message-ID: <00a001c87f9e$0e866c30$2b934490$@com> Respond to jporasik at wi.rr.com This is a very clean car, and a very fast car. From: jeffrey.porasik at wachoviasec.com [mailto:jeffrey.porasik at wachoviasec.com] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:18 AM To: wsthompson at thicko.com Subject: Flounder, Thanks for helping me out with selling my car. For Sale: 1967 Austin Healey Sprite vintage race car Well built & sorted, professionally built 1275. .30 over w/roller rockers, Comptune grind head New rings and bearings January 2008 Ribcase tranny w/straight cut gears. New synchros January 2008 Tilton brakes and clutch, Kirkey seat, Peter Caldwell adjustable lever shocks on front. Many other upgrades. Also included is open trailer. Has run with VSCDA,SVRA for past 5 yrs. 1:27 Blackhawk 2:58 Road America Ready for 50th Anniversary Sprite races in 2008 $10,000 (car & trailer) Call Jeff Porasik 262-880-9915 (cell) 262-635-2562 (office) jporasik at wi.rr.com ATTENTION: Please be aware that since the confidentiality of Internet email cannot be guaranteed, do not include private or confidential information such as passwords, account numbers, social security numbers, etc., in emails to us. Additionally, instructions having financial consequences such as trade orders, funds transfer, etc., should not be included in your email communications to us as we cannot act on such instructions received by email. If you do not wish to receive advertising messages from Wachovia, please use the following link to unsubscribe: https://www.wachovia.com/email/unsubscribe Or you may write us at Wachovia Securities 901 East Byrd Street Richmond, VA 23219. For additional information regarding our electronic communication policies please go to http://www.wachoviasec.com/gotoEmailDisclosure Investments in securities and insurance products are: NOT FDIC-INSURED/NOT BANK-GUARANTEED/MAY LOSE VALUE Wachovia Securities is the trade name used by two separate, registered broker-dealers and nonbank affiliates of Wachovia Corporation providing certain retail securities brokerage services: Wachovia Securities, LLC, Member NYSE/SIPC, and Wachovia Securities Financial Network, LLC, Member FINRA/SIPC. From note4don at live.com Thu Mar 6 09:23:08 2008 From: note4don at live.com (note4don at live.com) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:23:08 -0800 Subject: [Vintage-race] Mid Ohio Storage Message-ID: I am part of a three car group coming from California to Mid-Ohio on June and then on to Beaverun and Schenley Park. We need to store our enclosed 3 car trailer and truck for 10 days after Mid-Ohio. I was told by Mid-Ohio personnel that "Guest Services" were the only ones who could give me information about leaving the rig at Mid-Ohio but they won't be available for a month or so. Who knows about storage at Mid-Ohio or are there services nearby the track or perhaps Columbus where we could safely store the rig? How about the Pittsburgh area? Any thoughts will be helpful. Don Queen From note4don at live.com Sun Mar 9 18:26:59 2008 From: note4don at live.com (note4don at live.com) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:26:59 -0700 Subject: [Vintage-race] Pittsburgh Alfa Shop Message-ID: I'm planning a trip to Beaverun and Schenley Park in July and I'd like to have the name of a good Alfa shop to bail me out if my Giulietta has a problem. Any suggestions ? Don Queen From zero260 at comcast.net Wed Mar 12 09:32:22 2008 From: zero260 at comcast.net (zero260 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:32:22 +0000 Subject: [Vintage-race] 1962 Austin Healey 3000 MK2 Race Car For Sale Message-ID: <031220081632.23060.47D805960008298100005A142205886172CFC0CD019D0A96@comcast.net> 1962 Austin Healey 3000 MK 2.. Former race car. History unknown. Tri Carb engine, overdrive transmission. Detroit locker diff. Modified deep Oil Pan . Tube shocks added to front suspension.Car is lowered. Wire wheels. Rear Disc Brakes. Roll bar. Racing windshield. The body is very straight and there is no rust. Has not been started in a year or so. The engine turns freely on the starter.The pan was off recently and repaired. While off I pulled a couple of rod caps and saw that the bearings and crank are in good condition. Needs fuel pump. Needs some wiring sorted out. It has 2 stock seat frames and some spares as well. This is a project that I don't have time for. It is in Berkeley Calif and available for inspection. I have lots of photos to email and can try and answer questions. Jerry Burr From zero260 at comcast.net Wed Mar 12 17:37:28 2008 From: zero260 at comcast.net (Jerry Burr) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:37:28 -0800 Subject: [Vintage-race] Legrand F/4...F Jr For sale Message-ID: <037e01c884a2$72b51ea0$e98db443@hsd1.ca.comcast.net> 1963 Legrand Formula 4, Formula Jr.....Race ready...Curently runs with HMSA, CSRG SOVERN and pretty much anywhere else. 1000cc BMW 2 Cyl Bike engine. BMW 700 Sport Transaxle. Disc brakes all around. Clean, Original, Fast...Total weight is 585lbs.Lots of spares. Unique car that always gets lots of attention. Lots of photos available. Car is in Berkeley and available for inspection. $45,000....... [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Legrand 222.jpg] From lbmc at nexicom.net Thu Mar 13 09:29:38 2008 From: lbmc at nexicom.net (Bob DeShane - Little Britain Motor Company) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:29:38 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] #96 Mini For Sale Message-ID: 1964 Morris Mini Cooper S 1275 Racing Mini (one of 4 Baker Racing built Minis)  very strong performer - VARAC Registered  race winner  recent sale of sister car near $50,000  asking $39,000. Will consider offers or interesting trades. Bob DeShane 1-866-415-2779 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From rickyocum at earthlink.net Thu Mar 13 10:19:24 2008 From: rickyocum at earthlink.net (Rick Yocum) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:19:24 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin Message-ID: <00b001c8852e$62ca15e0$41016fc0@Rick> My Amos Johnson Gremlin is currently on ebay. I wrestle about every three or four months with selling the car, and I'm in the selling mood right now. You can just search "Amos Johnson" on ebay to get to it. For s historic car like this one, I think the price is extremely reasonable. Rick Yocum Powered by HYPERLINK "http://www.cardscan.com/"CardScan No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Mar 13 11:45:25 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin Message-ID: <4260195.1205433925169.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I am having trouble picturing a Gremlin as being a race car. It puts me in the mind of picturing a Pinto as a race car. Some things, I am just thinking, just should not be ;^)). Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Yocum >Sent: Mar 13, 2008 1:19 PM >To: vintage-race at autox.team.net >Subject: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin > >My Amos Johnson Gremlin is currently on ebay. I wrestle about every three or >four months with selling the car, and I'm in the selling mood right now. >You can just search "Amos Johnson" on ebay to get to it. For s historic car >like this one, I think the price is extremely reasonable. > >Rick Yocum > > > > > >Powered by HYPERLINK "http://www.cardscan.com/"CardScan > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 >1:27 PM >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com > >Vintage-race at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From RLHardison at verizon.net Thu Mar 13 11:58:26 2008 From: RLHardison at verizon.net (Richard Hardison) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:58:26 -0500 Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin Message-ID: <001d01c8853c$3822dd00$a8689700$@net> While I have never seen a Gremlin raced, I have seen a Pinto raced successfully. The first Datsun 510 put on a race track must have seemed a bit strange as well! How about the first time someone raced a Mini? Richard -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces+rlhardison=verizon.net at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces+rlhardison=verizon.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike/Donna Carpenter Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:45 PM To: Rick Yocum; vintage-race at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin I am having trouble picturing a Gremlin as being a race car. It puts me in the mind of picturing a Pinto as a race car. Some things, I am just thinking, just should not be ;^)). Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Yocum >Sent: Mar 13, 2008 1:19 PM >To: vintage-race at autox.team.net >Subject: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin > >My Amos Johnson Gremlin is currently on ebay. I wrestle about every three or >four months with selling the car, and I'm in the selling mood right now. >You can just search "Amos Johnson" on ebay to get to it. For s historic car >like this one, I think the price is extremely reasonable. > >Rick Yocum > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: 3/13/2008 11:31 AM From jimf42 at rocketmail.com Thu Mar 13 11:59:22 2008 From: jimf42 at rocketmail.com (jim fuerstenberg) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin Message-ID: <769678.5754.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Brook Stevens museum had an AMC Pacer setup for IMSA Jim Fuerstenberg 'The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong, it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair.' (Douglas Adams) ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike/Donna Carpenter To: Rick Yocum ; vintage-race at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:45:25 PM Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin I am having trouble picturing a Gremlin as being a race car. It puts me in the mind of picturing a Pinto as a race car. Some things, I am just thinking, just should not be ;^)). Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Yocum >Sent: Mar 13, 2008 1:19 PM >To: vintage-race at autox.team.net >Subject: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin > >My Amos Johnson Gremlin is currently on ebay. I wrestle about every three or >four months with selling the car, and I'm in the selling mood right now. >You can just search "Amos Johnson" on ebay to get to it. For s historic car >like this one, I think the price is extremely reasonable. > >Rick Yocum > > > > > >Powered by HYPERLINK "http://www.cardscan.com/"CardScan > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 >1:27 PM >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com > >Vintage-race at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com You are subscribed as jimf42 at rocketmail.com Vintage-race at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From RRyan at frk.com Thu Mar 13 12:06:13 2008 From: RRyan at frk.com (Ryan, Richard) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:06:13 -0700 Subject: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin References: <769678.5754.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2836149FA7BFB44A8528E41CC72137DDF27960@smosvr0663.noam.corp.frk.com> Some of us on the list must be younger that others of us on the list. I remember watching Team Highball race. Dick Ryan 650-312-4022 (24022) Director of Global Insurance Management Franklin Templeton Investments One Franklin Parkway 960/4 San Mateo CA 94403-1906 Fax 650-312-5830 (25830) -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces+rryan=frk.com at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces+rryan=frk.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jim fuerstenberg Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:59 AM To: Mike/Donna Carpenter; Rick Yocum; vintage-race at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin The Brook Stevens museum had an AMC Pacer setup for IMSA Jim Fuerstenberg 'The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong, it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair.' (Douglas Adams) ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike/Donna Carpenter To: Rick Yocum ; vintage-race at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:45:25 PM Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin I am having trouble picturing a Gremlin as being a race car. It puts me in the mind of picturing a Pinto as a race car. Some things, I am just thinking, just should not be ;^)). Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Yocum >Sent: Mar 13, 2008 1:19 PM >To: vintage-race at autox.team.net >Subject: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin > >My Amos Johnson Gremlin is currently on ebay. I wrestle about every three or >four months with selling the car, and I'm in the selling mood right now. >You can just search "Amos Johnson" on ebay to get to it. For s historic car >like this one, I think the price is extremely reasonable. > >Rick Yocum > Notice: All email and instant messages (including attachments) sent to or from Franklin Templeton Investments (FTI) personnel may be retained, monitored and/or reviewed by FTI and its agents, or authorized law enforcement personnel, without further notice or consent. From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Mar 13 12:15:12 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin Message-ID: <30477861.1205435712813.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I have to admit that I have seen a fast Pinto vintage raced but that shape . . . ? It just doesn't strike ya as a suitable race car or one to put so much time and effort in modifying to get it just right ;^). Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Richard Hardison >Sent: Mar 13, 2008 2:58 PM >To: Vintage Race List >Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin > >While I have never seen a Gremlin raced, I have seen a Pinto raced >successfully. The first Datsun 510 put on a race track must have seemed a >bit strange as well! How about the first time someone raced a Mini? > >Richard > >-----Original Message----- >From: vintage-race-bounces+rlhardison=verizon.net at autox.team.net >[mailto:vintage-race-bounces+rlhardison=verizon.net at autox.team.net] On >Behalf Of Mike/Donna Carpenter >Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:45 PM >To: Rick Yocum; vintage-race at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin > >I am having trouble picturing a Gremlin as being a race car. It puts me in >the mind of picturing a Pinto as a race car. Some things, I am just >thinking, just should not be ;^)). > >Mike C > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Yocum >>Sent: Mar 13, 2008 1:19 PM >>To: vintage-race at autox.team.net >>Subject: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin >> >>My Amos Johnson Gremlin is currently on ebay. I wrestle about every three >or >>four months with selling the car, and I'm in the selling mood right now. >>You can just search "Amos Johnson" on ebay to get to it. For s historic car >>like this one, I think the price is extremely reasonable. >> >>Rick Yocum >> >> >> >> >> > > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: 3/13/2008 >11:31 AM ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From Roger.Sieling at telesistech.com Thu Mar 13 12:30:32 2008 From: Roger.Sieling at telesistech.com (Roger Sieling) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:30:32 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin References: <001d01c8853c$3822dd00$a8689700$@net> Message-ID: Or a Volvo 444! -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces+rogsie=telesistech.com at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces+rogsie=telesistech.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Hardison Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:58 PM To: Vintage Race List Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin While I have never seen a Gremlin raced, I have seen a Pinto raced successfully. The first Datsun 510 put on a race track must have seemed a bit strange as well! How about the first time someone raced a Mini? Richard -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces+rlhardison=verizon.net at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces+rlhardison=verizon.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike/Donna Carpenter Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:45 PM To: Rick Yocum; vintage-race at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin I am having trouble picturing a Gremlin as being a race car. It puts me in the mind of picturing a Pinto as a race car. Some things, I am just thinking, just should not be ;^)). Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Yocum >Sent: Mar 13, 2008 1:19 PM >To: vintage-race at autox.team.net >Subject: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin > >My Amos Johnson Gremlin is currently on ebay. I wrestle about every >three or >four months with selling the car, and I'm in the selling mood right now. >You can just search "Amos Johnson" on ebay to get to it. For s historic >car like this one, I think the price is extremely reasonable. > >Rick Yocum > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: 3/13/2008 11:31 AM From nick at 3rdtech.com Thu Mar 13 12:38:13 2008 From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:38:13 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin In-Reply-To: <30477861.1205435712813.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <30477861.1205435712813.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <02bd01c88541$c7082f70$fd0212ac@Heathkit2> Hello? - looks we need some vintage memories here: just Google on Team HighBall! 1971 Gremlin - IMSA RS Series - Built by Amos Johnson / Team Highball Raced by Amos in IMSA RS Series from '71 to '76 '73 IMSA Class Champion - Won Daytona 5 times And Check out all the Pintos running in the IMSA Baby Grand race held at VIR April 1972 http://www.virhistory.com/vir/72-apr/baby-photo/baby-photo.htm ==================== Mike sez: > >I am having trouble picturing a Gremlin as being a race car. It puts me in >the mind of picturing a Pinto as a race car. Some things, I am just >thinking, just should not be ;^)). From chris at cthompson.net Thu Mar 13 13:21:26 2008 From: chris at cthompson.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:21:26 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin In-Reply-To: <02bd01c88541$c7082f70$fd0212ac@Heathkit2> References: <30477861.1205435712813.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <02bd01c88541$c7082f70$fd0212ac@Heathkit2> Message-ID: <47D98CC6.4030605@cthompson.net> And there's a feller who used to work at VIR who *still has* a racing Gremlin. I followed him for a couple of laps, and it was apparent he was having the most fun of anyone out there that day. The original drifter - I don't think I saw one wheel have complete traction at any time while following him.......oh, shoot, what is his name - tall lanky chain smoking guy......LEE! Chris Nick England wrote: > Hello? - looks we need some vintage memories here: > just Google on Team HighBall! From zero260 at comcast.net Thu Mar 13 14:38:56 2008 From: zero260 at comcast.net (Jerry Burr) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:38:56 -0700 Subject: [Vintage-race] Aston Martin 2/4 vin info?? Message-ID: <00bc01c88552$a4597e00$919da943@DGRKBDC1> Anyone know where I can look up the Vin for an Aston 2/4........I'm thinking about buying it and want to see what I can find out about it's birth... Thanks, Jerry Burr From eugenefine at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 14:50:56 2008 From: eugenefine at gmail.com (Eugene Fine) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:50:56 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Aston Martin 2/4 vin info?? In-Reply-To: <00bc01c88552$a4597e00$919da943@DGRKBDC1> References: <00bc01c88552$a4597e00$919da943@DGRKBDC1> Message-ID: <438f56300803131450u5611eb1tef4f2479e212242e@mail.gmail.com> I would suggest contacting the Aston Martin Heritage Trust. http://www.amheritrust.org/ Chances are they have the original build order for the car in their archives. - Gene Fine On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Jerry Burr wrote: > Anyone know where I can look up the Vin for an Aston 2/4........I'm thinking > about buying it and want to see what I can find out about it's birth... > Thanks, > Jerry Burr > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eugenefine at gmail.com > > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From carlynneracing at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 13 16:55:30 2008 From: carlynneracing at sbcglobal.net (Carl McLelland) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:55:30 -0700 Subject: [Vintage-race] Aston Martin 2/4 vin info?? References: <00bc01c88552$a4597e00$919da943@DGRKBDC1> Message-ID: <01bd01c88566$825a6620$4001a8c0@lotus61mff> Jerry, Try this website. it might have the numbers your looking for. http://www.classicscars.com/chassis/aston.htm Good luck, Carl Lotus 61 FF ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Burr To: vintage-race at Autox.Team.Net Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: [Vintage-race] Aston Martin 2/4 vin info?? Anyone know where I can look up the Vin for an Aston 2/4........I'm thinking about buying it and want to see what I can find out about it's birth... Thanks, Jerry Burr _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as carlynneracing at sbcglobal.net Vintage-race at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From rickyocum at earthlink.net Thu Mar 13 18:46:37 2008 From: rickyocum at earthlink.net (Rick Yocum) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:46:37 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin In-Reply-To: <30477861.1205435712813.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00d901c88575$3e455c60$41016fc0@Rick> "I am having trouble picturing a Gremlin as being a race car." Actually, Johnson selected the Gremlin scientifically. He looked at all the cars elegible for the class, then picked the one that offered the largest engine. "I figured I could make anything handle," he told me. Rick No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM From dmapes at erols.com Thu Mar 13 19:21:03 2008 From: dmapes at erols.com (Dave Mapes) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin Message-ID: <6mjg7k$ggusei@smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Well here's what I'm wasting my time on: http://users.erols.com/dmapes/D7160602.JPG http://users.erols.com/dmapes/SMDCP651.JPG NOT for sale BTW. =8^) At 03:15 PM 3/13/08 -0400, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: >I have to admit that I have seen a fast Pinto vintage raced but that shape . . . ? It just doesn't strike ya as a suitable race car or one to put so much time and effort in modifying to get it just right ;^). > >Mike C > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Richard Hardison >>Sent: Mar 13, 2008 2:58 PM >>To: Vintage Race List >>Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin >> >>While I have never seen a Gremlin raced, I have seen a Pinto raced >>successfully. The first Datsun 510 put on a race track must have seemed a >>bit strange as well! How about the first time someone raced a Mini? >> >>Richard >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: vintage-race-bounces+rlhardison=verizon.net at autox.team.net >>[mailto:vintage-race-bounces+rlhardison=verizon.net at autox.team.net] On >>Behalf Of Mike/Donna Carpenter >>Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:45 PM >>To: Rick Yocum; vintage-race at autox.team.net >>Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin >> >>I am having trouble picturing a Gremlin as being a race car. It puts me in >>the mind of picturing a Pinto as a race car. Some things, I am just >>thinking, just should not be ;^)). >> >>Mike C >> >>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Rick Yocum >>>Sent: Mar 13, 2008 1:19 PM >>>To: vintage-race at autox.team.net >>>Subject: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin >>> >>>My Amos Johnson Gremlin is currently on ebay. I wrestle about every three >>or >>>four months with selling the car, and I'm in the selling mood right now. >>>You can just search "Amos Johnson" on ebay to get to it. For s historic car >>>like this one, I think the price is extremely reasonable. >>> >>>Rick Yocum >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> All the Best! Dave Sr. Software Engineer/Requirements Manager/Systems Assurance Analyst Aging Racer & Thumb Pound...er...Rule Engineer http://www.lamehorseracing.com From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Thu Mar 13 20:00:44 2008 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:00:44 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin References: <6mjg7k$ggusei@smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Message-ID: <000d01c8857f$98f9aee0$a52af904@D1PWFG61> Interesting Dave. I can say that I have learned more about racing Gremlins. I guess they are more popular than I imagined. Mike C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mapes" To: "Vintage Race List" Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin > Well here's what I'm wasting my time on: > > http://users.erols.com/dmapes/D7160602.JPG > http://users.erols.com/dmapes/SMDCP651.JPG > > NOT for sale BTW. =8^) > > At 03:15 PM 3/13/08 -0400, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: >>I have to admit that I have seen a fast Pinto vintage raced but that shape > . . . ? It just doesn't strike ya as a suitable race car or one to put so > much time and effort in modifying to get it just right ;^). >> >>Mike C >> >>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Richard Hardison >>>Sent: Mar 13, 2008 2:58 PM >>>To: Vintage Race List >>>Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin >>> >>>While I have never seen a Gremlin raced, I have seen a Pinto raced >>>successfully. The first Datsun 510 put on a race track must have seemed >>>a >>>bit strange as well! How about the first time someone raced a Mini? >>> >>>Richard >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: vintage-race-bounces+rlhardison=verizon.net at autox.team.net >>>[mailto:vintage-race-bounces+rlhardison=verizon.net at autox.team.net] On >>>Behalf Of Mike/Donna Carpenter >>>Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:45 PM >>>To: Rick Yocum; vintage-race at autox.team.net >>>Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin >>> >>>I am having trouble picturing a Gremlin as being a race car. It puts me >>>in >>>the mind of picturing a Pinto as a race car. Some things, I am just >>>thinking, just should not be ;^)). >>> >>>Mike C >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Rick Yocum >>>>Sent: Mar 13, 2008 1:19 PM >>>>To: vintage-race at autox.team.net >>>>Subject: [Vintage-race] Vintage Racing Gremlin >>>> >>>>My Amos Johnson Gremlin is currently on ebay. I wrestle about every >>>>three >>>or >>>>four months with selling the car, and I'm in the selling mood right now. >>>>You can just search "Amos Johnson" on ebay to get to it. For s historic >>>>car >>>>like this one, I think the price is extremely reasonable. >>>> >>>>Rick Yocum >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > All the Best! Dave > Sr. Software Engineer/Requirements Manager/Systems Assurance Analyst > Aging Racer & Thumb Pound...er...Rule Engineer > http://www.lamehorseracing.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com > > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From dmapes at erols.com Fri Mar 14 03:40:19 2008 From: dmapes at erols.com (Dave Mapes) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin Message-ID: <6mjg7k$ggv6sk@smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net> A freimd of mine in high school had a hot rodded 6 Cyl Gremlin that was pretty quick and handled and stopped well enough that he didn't kill himself or anyone else with it. It was fairly light and ran low 14s at 75&80 Drag-A-Way. Good use of space in that car too; it regularly used to take 4 of us from suberban DC to PA to go skiing. At 11:00 PM 3/13/08 -0400, MICHAEL CARPENTER wrote: >Interesting Dave. > >I can say that I have learned more about racing Gremlins. I guess they are >more popular than I imagined. > >Mike C > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dave Mapes" >To: "Vintage Race List" >Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:21 PM >Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin > > >> Well here's what I'm wasting my time on: >> >> http://users.erols.com/dmapes/D7160602.JPG >> http://users.erols.com/dmapes/SMDCP651.JPG >> >> NOT for sale BTW. =8^) >> >> At 03:15 PM 3/13/08 -0400, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: >>>I have to admit that I have seen a fast Pinto vintage raced but that shape >> . . . ? It just doesn't strike ya as a suitable race car or one to put so >> much time and effort in modifying to get it just right ;^). >>> >>>Mike C >>> > All the Best! Dave Sr. Software Engineer/Requirements Manager/Systems Assurance Analyst Aging Racer & Thumb Pound...er...Rule Engineer http://www.lamehorseracing.com From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Mar 14 06:16:13 2008 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:16:13 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin In-Reply-To: <6mjg7k$ggv6sk@smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net> References: <6mjg7k$ggv6sk@smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Message-ID: <001501c885d5$957bb5a0$c07320e0$@net> Had a friend with a hot 6 Gremlin back in 1969. Blew the motor in 1970 so we stuck in a 401 V8 with a close ratio Javelin 4 speed. Was a great freeway cruiser, but had no traction off the line. Great though at smokin' old junk yard tires! Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Mapes Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 6:40 AM To: Vintage Race List Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin A freimd of mine in high school had a hot rodded 6 Cyl Gremlin that was pretty quick and handled and stopped well enough that he didn't kill himself or anyone else with it. It was fairly light and ran low 14s at 75&80 Drag-A-Way. Good use of space in that car too; it regularly used to take 4 of us from suberban DC to PA to go skiing. At 11:00 PM 3/13/08 -0400, MICHAEL CARPENTER wrote: >Interesting Dave. > >I can say that I have learned more about racing Gremlins. I guess they are >more popular than I imagined. > >Mike C > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dave Mapes" >To: "Vintage Race List" >Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:21 PM >Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] FW: Vintage Racing Gremlin > > >> Well here's what I'm wasting my time on: >> >> http://users.erols.com/dmapes/D7160602.JPG >> http://users.erols.com/dmapes/SMDCP651.JPG >> >> NOT for sale BTW. =8^) >> >> At 03:15 PM 3/13/08 -0400, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: >>>I have to admit that I have seen a fast Pinto vintage raced but that shape >> . . . ? It just doesn't strike ya as a suitable race car or one to put so >> much time and effort in modifying to get it just right ;^). >>> >>>Mike C >>> > All the Best! Dave Sr. Software Engineer/Requirements Manager/Systems Assurance Analyst Aging Racer & Thumb Pound...er...Rule Engineer http://www.lamehorseracing.com You are subscribed as 9laser3 at bright.net Vintage-race at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From Grossac at aol.com Fri Mar 14 19:00:11 2008 From: Grossac at aol.com (Grossac at aol.com) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:00:11 EDT Subject: [Vintage-race] Sprite 50th Anniversary Races at SVRA Mid Ohio June 26-29 - "Sprite Speed 50" Message-ID: REMINDER! The SVRA Mid Ohio event will honor the 50th anniversary of the Sprite. All Sprites/Midgets are invited, including variants as well as modern SCCA cars with history. Sprite entry fees will be reduced from the regular fees, and there will be Sprite only races in addition to the regular SVRA groupings. Sprites will also be offered a no-cost familiarization session on Thursday. (Formal training is also available at additional cost.) This event is being run in cooperation with the VARAC Mosport races on the preceding weekend as the Can-Am Sprite Challenge. The event will include a number of fun Sprite oriented activities; details to be provided later. Pass the word around! Please go to the SVRA website: _www.svra.com_ (http://www.svra.com) , or me, _grossac at aol.com_ (mailto:grossac at aol.com) for more information. If you are interested, please let me know as we are starting to put together final plans which require an estimate of the potential headcount. Chris Gross Rock Hill, SC 809-329-8253 **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) From Awgertoo at aol.com Sun Mar 16 17:15:30 2008 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:15:30 EDT Subject: [Vintage-race] Fuel pump recommendation Message-ID: I've been using FACET pumps in the Elva and have been let down by them once too often. I've used both the older "cube" pumps and the newer supposedly improved configuration with the rounded top in the black plastic case (shaped kind of like a mantle clock) in 2-4 psi and at least three of them have failed--never totally but enough to cause fuel starvation at high speeds and a lost session. What is the collective wisdom and recommendations on fuel pumps for SU's? I have twin HS6's on an MGA engine with negative ground setup in the car. Best--Michael Oritt, Elva Courier **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) From tony at tonydrews.com Sun Mar 16 18:16:23 2008 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:16:23 -0500 Subject: [Vintage-race] Fuel pump recommendation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080317021556.B934F187647@autox.team.net> Been there, done that. You need a Holley Blue pump that comes with a matching regulator. The pump puts out about 15 psi, and the regulator (even though it has a stated lower limit of 4 psi - I've got it dialed down to 2 psi for my webers) will consistently keep the pressure down to where the SU's are happy. We've been able to run 3 psi or so without fuel coming out of the overflows. You want the fuel pump next to the fuel cell, 3/8" or -6 line to the firewall, and the regulator on the firewall (or thereabouts). Since switching to this arrangement we've had zero problems with pump or regulator. 3/8 seems a bit large, but it really does make a difference. It keeps the pressure drop from back to front to a minimum, allowing the stuff to do its job. http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecId=2516 (can be had for cheaper elsewhere - try www.carshopinc.com but you get a good description here) The normal setup we've seen (the troublesome one) uses a pump that puts out about 5 psi, and then a regulator on the firewall that drops it to maybe 3 psi. There's not enough pressure differential across the regulator for it to operate reliably. When it quits working right it behaves EXACTLY as you've described. In taking the regulator out of the system to solve this problem temporarily, we discovered that the SU's will take 5 psi at idle just fine (as long as you're not running Grose jets). - Tony Drews Triumph TR-4 #95 At 07:15 PM 3/16/2008, Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: >I've been using FACET pumps in the Elva and have been let down by them once >too often. I've used both the older "cube" pumps and the newer supposedly >improved configuration with the rounded top in the black plastic >case (shaped >kind of like a mantle clock) in 2-4 psi and at least three of them have >failed--never totally but enough to cause fuel starvation at high >speeds and a lost >session. > >What is the collective wisdom and recommendations on fuel pumps for SU's? I >have twin HS6's on an MGA engine with negative ground setup in the car. > >Best--Michael Oritt, Elva Courier From Tombread at aol.com Mon Mar 17 06:18:16 2008 From: Tombread at aol.com (Tombread at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:18:16 EDT Subject: [Vintage-race] Fuel pump recommendation Message-ID: Back in The Day we used Bendix electric pumps on our MGA and MGB and never had problems. Tom Butters Motorsports Art Morgan Creek Studio 5392 Gilmer Road Greens Fork, Indiana 47345 765-886-5098 Winner, "Best of Show," 109th Annual Richmond Art Museum Exhibition View recent paintings at: _www.tombuttersart.com_ (http://www.tombuttersart.com/) In a message dated 3/16/2008 8:16:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Awgertoo at aol.com writes: I've been using FACET pumps in the Elva and have been let down by them once too often. I've used both the older "cube" pumps and the newer supposedly improved configuration with the rounded top in the black plastic case (shaped kind of like a mantle clock) in 2-4 psi and at least three of them have failed--never totally but enough to cause fuel starvation at high speeds and a lost session. What is the collective wisdom and recommendations on fuel pumps for SU's? I have twin HS6's on an MGA engine with negative ground setup in the car. Best--Michael Oritt, Elva Courier **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) You are subscribed as tombread at aol.com Vintage-race at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Mar 17 07:16:17 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:16:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Vintage-race] Fuel pump recommendation Message-ID: <31757287.1205763377178.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I have also had three of the Facet square and newer plastic ones fail on my Lotus Sevens. I will not use one again. They are garbage. I am now using an original old Bendix blue top on my Series two (positive ground) and a VW type tube Carter on my neg ground series one. Both work fine and I can trust them. Facet has lost my business and i have heard many others who have had issues with them Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Tombread at aol.com >Sent: Mar 17, 2008 9:18 AM >To: Awgertoo at aol.com, vintage-race at autox.team.net, VRG_NewsGroup at yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Fuel pump recommendation > >Back in The Day we used Bendix electric pumps on our MGA and MGB and never >had problems. > >Tom Butters >Motorsports Art >Morgan Creek Studio 5392 Gilmer Road Greens Fork, Indiana 47345 765-886-5098 > >Winner, "Best of Show," 109th Annual Richmond Art Museum Exhibition >View recent paintings at: _www.tombuttersart.com_ >(http://www.tombuttersart.com/) > > >In a message dated 3/16/2008 8:16:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >Awgertoo at aol.com writes: > >I've been using FACET pumps in the Elva and have been let down by them once > >too often. I've used both the older "cube" pumps and the newer supposedly >improved configuration with the rounded top in the black plastic case >(shaped >kind of like a mantle clock) in 2-4 psi and at least three of them have >failed--never totally but enough to cause fuel starvation at high speeds >and a lost >session. > >What is the collective wisdom and recommendations on fuel pumps for SU's? I > >have twin HS6's on an MGA engine with negative ground setup in the car. > >Best--Michael Oritt, Elva Courier > > > > >**************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & >Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) >You are subscribed as tombread at aol.com > >Vintage-race at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race > > > > > >**************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & >Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com > >Vintage-race at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From IFrantz at tufts-nemc.org Mon Mar 17 08:48:51 2008 From: IFrantz at tufts-nemc.org (Frantz, Ivan) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:48:51 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Fuel pump recommendation In-Reply-To: <31757287.1205763377178.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <384A7CD5B7EE354E94B8EE40C317F1C3EECC15@neexchange07.tufts-nemc.org> To get out both sides of the story, the Facet pump I installed in my Lotus 7 in 1995 keeps on ticking. Ivan D. Frantz, III, M.D. Professor of Pediatrics Tufts University School of Medicine Note my email address has changed to: ifrantz at tuftsmedicalcenter.org Tufts Medical Center Box 44 800 Washington St. Boston, MA 02111 617 636 5322 -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces+ifrantz=tufts-nemc.org at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces+ifrantz=tufts-nemc.org at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike/Donna Carpenter Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:16 AM To: Tombread at aol.com; Awgertoo at aol.com; vintage-race at autox.team.net; VRG_NewsGroup at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Fuel pump recommendation I have also had three of the Facet square and newer plastic ones fail on my Lotus Sevens. I will not use one again. They are garbage. I am now using an original old Bendix blue top on my Series two (positive ground) and a VW type tube Carter on my neg ground series one. Both work fine and I can trust them. Facet has lost my business and i have heard many others who have had issues with them Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Tombread at aol.com >Sent: Mar 17, 2008 9:18 AM >To: Awgertoo at aol.com, vintage-race at autox.team.net, VRG_NewsGroup at yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Fuel pump recommendation > >Back in The Day we used Bendix electric pumps on our MGA and MGB and never >had problems. > >Tom Butters >Motorsports Art >Morgan Creek Studio 5392 Gilmer Road Greens Fork, Indiana 47345 765-886-5098 > >Winner, "Best of Show," 109th Annual Richmond Art Museum Exhibition >View recent paintings at: _www.tombuttersart.com_ >(http://www.tombuttersart.com/) > > >In a message dated 3/16/2008 8:16:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >Awgertoo at aol.com writes: > >I've been using FACET pumps in the Elva and have been let down by them once > >too often. I've used both the older "cube" pumps and the newer supposedly >improved configuration with the rounded top in the black plastic case >(shaped >kind of like a mantle clock) in 2-4 psi and at least three of them have >failed--never totally but enough to cause fuel starvation at high speeds >and a lost >session. > >What is the collective wisdom and recommendations on fuel pumps for SU's? I > >have twin HS6's on an MGA engine with negative ground setup in the car. > >Best--Michael Oritt, Elva Courier > > > > >**************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & >Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) >You are subscribed as tombread at aol.com > >Vintage-race at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race > > > > > >**************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & >Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com > >Vintage-race at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com You are subscribed as ifrantz at tufts-nemc.org Vintage-race at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From twobees at sprynet.com Mon Mar 17 18:47:48 2008 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:47:48 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] 1-1/2" SU Air Horns Wanted Message-ID: <00ac01c8889a$12220660$42451645@normoffice> I have 2 pairs (2" & 1/2" long) of air horns for 1-3/4" SUs that I would like to swap for 2"-long horns for 1-1/2" SUs. I.d. of throat on those for 1-1/2" SUs that I am seeking is 1.37" Horn opening is 3.5" o.d. I'm looking for "full radius" opening on the horns as shown on TWM's "Dimension Guide" page (see: http://www.twminduction.com/AirHorn/AirHorn-FR.html ) Pair #1) 1-3/4" throat dimension is 1.62" i.d. at the base. Opening is 3.5" o.d. on 2" long ones. Pair #2) Shorty type are for use inside air filters. Also 1.62" i.d. Just 1/2" tall but made of solid aluminum with nicely rounded lip. All are in really good condition. Some scratches, no dents. Photos available. Please contact me off-list if you have any to trade or sell, or if you want to buy either pair of mine. Preference given to traders. Norm Sippel '59 Turner '60 Alfa From N197TR4 at cs.com Tue Mar 18 07:06:08 2008 From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:06:08 EDT Subject: [Vintage-race] Triumphs at the Glen 4-7September08 includes registration info Message-ID: Lists: It's no secret. Triumphs will be represented at the fabled Glen AND in the Village. The featured race will be sponsored by Classic Motorsports Magazine and Moss. Special contibution to the event will be made by TRF by bringing in the LeMans TRS. The FoT and the Village will also honor Joe & Dottie Richard's very historic Triumph TR2 TS LO. Kas & Peg Kastner will be our very special guests and will be presenting the coveted Kastner Cup. Many other notable Triumph folks will be there.......a lot of them. Joe Alexander Now for the the Racers----heads up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you are a potential race entrant or know someone who maybe a candidate as an entrant, please react as quickly as possible to Jack Woerhle's appeal. The SVRA Website is SVRA.COM and copies of the application for entry are there for your use. Please note that the cost of entry is different for our Triumphs than the general population. ($375.00) No SVRA membership is required for Triumph. ALSO, please note that entrants outside of the Continental North America are FREE. Below is a 'reprint' of Jack W's appeal to us, just in case it might have got past you. (Note the comment on extra group or session....even more track time possible) Joe A. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- WATKINS GLEN REGISTRATION In order to plan the groupings and schedule, you folks should have your entries in by June 1. It is to everyone's benefit to make this happen. If we get enough cars, it may be possible to get you an extra session or group. If you drag it out, that may not happen. Also, keep in mind that you must send me a Race Car Information Sheet and several photos of your car if you haven't raced with SVRA recently. All of you non-vintage guys will also need to send a documentation of you car's racing history. Log book records work well for that. The entry form and RCIS are on the website now. Do this now: don't wait until the last minute. Jack Woehrle SVRA From twobees at sprynet.com Sat Mar 22 10:30:32 2008 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:30:32 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Subject: Help for John Fitch Message-ID: <000201c88c42$6f70e920$65451645@normoffice> I read this and shuddered at the preposterous situation. It is beyond belief that Connecticut would treat its taxpaying citizens with such callous disdain. Granted that there is a need for John to remediate the damage done by his oil leak. But, to take the attitude the State has of not allowing private citizens the right to take advantage of a program now reserved for businesses only because, "...there were a lot of fancy (sic) addresses on that list (of people applying for the state assistance program)" is sheer bureaucratic bull. Or, is it that private citizens don't have a lobby working on their behalf? And, to proceed with no regard for what is reasonable is preposterous. I urge you to pass this information and the links below to anyone you know who might take the time to call or write to Jodie Rell, the Connecticut newspapers, or any politicians they know in Connecticut to urge them to bring some semblance of fairness, reality and justice to this out-of-hand situation. Do this not just for John, but also for all of the other citizens who are trying to do the right thing by cleaning up old oil tanks. http://www.cwnicholls.net/fitch/fitch.html http://www.docrebuild.com/curr-evnt/currentevents-116.html This whole fiasco reminds me of the case I heard about in New Jersey a number of years ago when a family had a garage sale and let a power lawn mower sit on the sidewalk all day. It leaked some oil. A city or county bureaucrat saw it & the family was forced to excavate the sidewalk and surrounding dirt at some exorbitant cost. You can be sure that trucks owned by that city or county leaked many times more oil in many more places with no similar consequence. Also makes me glad I removed the underground oil tank from my house in Connecticut before it began leaking, and before the oil-Gestapo got involved. Some helpful links: http://www.ct.gov/ctportal/cwp/view.asp?a=843 &q=246450 http://www.50states.com/news/conn.htm Papers to focus on: Hartford Courant; Danbury News-Times; Bridgeport Post; Stamford Advocate Norm Sippel Now in Florida where we have our own version of political corruption and malfeasance From rickyocum at earthlink.net Sat Mar 22 20:22:54 2008 From: rickyocum at earthlink.net (rickyocum at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Vintage-race] Last Offer of Big Johnson Gremlin Message-ID: <12842214.1206242574842.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I relisted the Gremlin on ebay (again, search "Amos Johnson") with reserve shown as buy it now price. I'd really like to get it out of the shop before I re-roof it and, at this price, it's one heck of a bargain (in my humble opinion!). Otherwise I'll yank the engine and have it freshened and cause a few of you problems next year, or maybe later this year...assuming I get two other projects finished as well. (I'm getting too old for this.) Rick From Awgertoo at aol.com Wed Mar 26 15:32:36 2008 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:32:36 EDT Subject: [Vintage-race] Holley fuel regulator adjustment Message-ID: I recently purchased a Holley Blue fuel pump to replace the Facet cube I have on my Elva which has an MGA 1500 engine w/two HS6 SU's. The pump came with the 4.5-9 psi regulator which I have plumbed up to the carbs using a Y-block with a pressure guage installed in a 3rd-outlet. I know that SU's supposedly like 2-4 psi but several folks have told me that they have had good results with this pump/regulator combo and have been able to adjust the regulator's flow down to 4.5 or so psi without any overpressure problems on their SU's, and that the high pressure regulator is better than the 1-4 psi Holley regulator. I hope I have made the right selection here. I'm using AN6 lines from the fuel cell to the regulator with a 3/8" nipple to the block and then 5/16" lines from the Y-block to the carbs, In any case I am a bit confused by the Holley instructions which state: "Any change made in fuel pressure will change the fuel bowl float level requirements. A readjustment in fuel bowl levels will be required for proper operation of the fuel system." Assuming I am able to adjust the pressure down to where it does not overwhelm the needle valves in the float bowls I do not understand why I will need to adjust the float bowl level. I thought that on SU's that is pretty much a fixed thing. Can someone shed some light here? Thanks in advance--Michael Oritt **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Mar 26 17:22:22 2008 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:22:22 -0500 Subject: [Vintage-race] Holley fuel regulator adjustment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080327012150.B055518765A@autox.team.net> Just adjust the pressure and ignore the instructions about float level. If you don't have gas spewing out the overflows, all is well. - Tony At 05:32 PM 3/26/2008, Awgertoo at aol.com wrote: >I recently purchased a Holley Blue fuel pump to replace the Facet cube I >have on my Elva which has an MGA 1500 engine w/two HS6 SU's. The >pump came with >the 4.5-9 psi regulator which I have plumbed up to the carbs using a Y-block >with a pressure guage installed in a 3rd-outlet. > >I know that SU's supposedly like 2-4 psi but several folks have told me that >they have had good results with this pump/regulator combo and have been able >to adjust the regulator's flow down to 4.5 or so psi without any >overpressure problems on their SU's, and that the high pressure >regulator is better than >the 1-4 psi Holley regulator. I hope I have made the right selection here. >I'm using AN6 lines from the fuel cell to the regulator with a 3/8" >nipple to >the block and then 5/16" lines from the Y-block to the carbs, > >In any case I am a bit confused by the Holley instructions which state: > >"Any change made in fuel pressure will change the fuel bowl float level >requirements. A readjustment in fuel bowl levels will be required for proper >operation of the fuel system." > >Assuming I am able to adjust the pressure down to where it does not >overwhelm the needle valves in the float bowls I do not understand >why I will need to >adjust the float bowl level. I thought that on SU's that is pretty much a >fixed thing. > >Can someone shed some light here? > >Thanks in advance--Michael Oritt From james.f.juhas at snet.net Wed Mar 26 22:11:00 2008 From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 0:11:00 -0500 Subject: [Vintage-race] Holley fuel regulator adjustment Message-ID: <20080327051100.A4704187654@autox.team.net> Michael: With more pressure, fuel flows faster. The needle valves don't shut off like a switch. It's a gradual closing until off, so a pressure change will change the amount that gets past the valve before it is fully 'off'. So, more or less fuel in the bowl. On my car, I use the lower pressure Holley regulator with excellent results set at 2 psi. The main pump is a Carter that produces 8psi, I think it is. I made no changes to the float level from where it was with the stock pump. Jim 1957 MGA #311 -----Original Message----- From: Awgertoo at aol.com Subj: [Vintage-race] Holley fuel regulator adjustment Date: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:33 pm Size: 1K To: vintage-race at autox.team.net, VRG_NewsGroup at yahoogroups.com I recently purchased a Holley Blue fuel pump to replace the Facet cube I have on my Elva which has an MGA 1500 engine w/two HS6 SU's. The pump came with the 4.5-9 psi regulator which I have plumbed up to the carbs using a Y-block with a pressure guage installed in a 3rd-outlet. I know that SU's supposedly like 2-4 psi but several folks have told me that they have had good results with this pump/regulator combo and have been able to adjust the regulator's flow down to 4.5 or so psi without any overpressure problems on their SU's, and that the high pressure regulator is better than the 1-4 psi Holley regulator. I hope I have made the right selection here. I'm using AN6 lines from the fuel cell to the regulator with a 3/8" nipple to the block and then 5/16" lines from the Y-block to the carbs, In any case I am a bit confused by the Holley instructions which state: "Any change made in fuel pressure will change the fuel bowl float level requirements. A readjustment in fuel bowl levels will be required for proper operation of the fuel system." Assuming I am able to adjust the pressure down to where it does not overwhelm the needle valves in the float bowls I do not understand why I will need to adjust the float bowl level. I thought that on SU's that is pretty much a fixed thing. Can someone shed some light here? Thanks in advance--Michael Oritt From Awgertoo at aol.com Fri Mar 28 12:48:37 2008 From: Awgertoo at aol.com (Awgertoo at aol.com) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:48:37 EDT Subject: [Vintage-race] Fuel pump and regulator--installed Message-ID: I'd like to thank everyone who gave me suggestions and shared their positive and negative experiences with various pumps, regulators, etc. in response to my question of a few weeks back. You may remember that I posted about a final negative experience with a FACET cube pump and asked for input on a replacement pump and regulator setup. In the end I installed the Holley Blue pump and Holley low pressure (1-4 psi) regulator and pulled larger lines--3/8 versus 5/16--from the cell up to the regulator and through a Y-divider (with fuel pressure gauge mounted on it), then 5/16 up to the HS6's. After completing plumbing and wiring today I fired it off and adjusted the regulator to 3 psi at fast idle, then repeatedly revved to 5K. The fuel pressure stayed constant, the EGT guages looked even and there was no overflow from the bowls so I think I am good to go, or at least start the next event. Best--Michael Oritt Elva Courier **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) From N197TR4 at cs.com Fri Mar 28 13:13:09 2008 From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:13:09 EDT Subject: [Vintage-race] Fuel pump and regulator--installed Message-ID: Thanks for the report....I am about to install essentially the same system.... with support from Tony Drews.....thanks to, Tony, as well. Joe Alexander > I'd like to thank everyone who gave me suggestions and shared their > positive > and negative experiences with various pumps, regulators, etc. in response > to > my question of a few weeks back. You may remember that I posted about a > final negative experience with a FACET cube pump and asked for input on a > replacement pump and regulator setup. > > In the end I installed the Holley Blue pump and Holley low pressure (1-4 > psi) regulator and pulled larger lines--3/8 versus 5/16--from the cell up > to the > regulator and through a Y-divider (with fuel pressure gauge mounted on it), > then 5/16 up to the HS6's. After completing plumbing and wiring today I > fired it off and adjusted the regulator to 3 psi at fast idle, then > repeatedly > revved to 5K. The fuel pressure stayed constant, the EGT guages looked > even > and there was no overflow from the bowls so I think I am good to go, or at > least start the next event. > > Best--Michael Oritt > Elva Courier > From brnfoxrace at aol.com Fri Mar 28 18:24:28 2008 From: brnfoxrace at aol.com (dual HDHDFDHDHHD) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:24:28 -0800 Subject: [Vintage-race] Test Message-ID: Test Message to Vintage Race list. I subscribed years ago using an AOL address -- AOL became HTML only, so I could not post to list -- only receive. I think list Commands required text. So I could not unsubscribe. I just set up my POP Mail application to read my AOL accounts and thought I would try a plain text post. Mark Godfrey Ojai, CA From brnfoxrace at aol.com Fri Mar 28 18:49:34 2008 From: brnfoxrace at aol.com (dual HDHDFDHDHHD) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:49:34 -0800 Subject: [Vintage-race] Test Message-ID: <7de01b5aa5c9f435d23327a058cb59f3@aol.com> Thanks for the confirmations. Sorry the "from" address is so goofy it is showing the name of my computer. In time I will unsubscribe from my AOL address and re-subscribe from another. Lou, perhaps you are using an early AOL version. Mine worked fine for years, then when I went to OS X on my Mac and AOL version 10.3 I could not get plain text. AOL versions (8.0 for Windows; 10.2.1 and 10.3 for Mac OS X) seem to be incapable of sending plain text. Thanks Mark Godfrey From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 28 23:37:30 2008 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:37:30 -0600 Subject: [Vintage-race] Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47EDE3AA.5030809@bradakis.com> > I subscribed years ago using an AOL address -- AOL became HTML only, > so I could not post to list -- only receive Huh? Lots of AOL subscribers post to the various Team.Net lists every day. The mail is processed by a program on the server that strips out the HTML baggage and turns it, usually, into plain text. mjb. From ckchapel at fast.net Mon Mar 31 13:53:43 2008 From: ckchapel at fast.net (Kerry J. Seibert) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:53:43 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] F1 (news!!!???) Message-ID: <20080331215312.7A3C918767A@autox.team.net> Gang - F1 News or April 1st ????!!!!! Craig Seibert SVRA 1968 Morgan +8 number 611 white http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/31/nmosley231.x ml From brnfoxrace at aol.com Mon Mar 31 17:45:10 2008 From: brnfoxrace at aol.com (brnfoxrace at aol.com) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:45:10 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] HTML test Message-ID: <8CA61A8C5E79DEA-EB4-2F24@webmail-nf06.sim.aol.com> Sorry for the imposition, but if HTML is stripped out and posts should come through, I thought I would try via the AOL web mail. I imagine list commands still need to be text only. Thanks, Mark