From fisher at hctc.net  Wed Aug  6 21:40:27 2008
From: fisher at hctc.net (Fisher or Elizabeth Jones)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:40:27 -0500
Subject: [Vintage-race] Auto rummage sale
Message-ID: <auto-000007598633@mailadmin.hctc.net>

   Just  a  heads-up for those of you who might be interested.  Following
   the heart attack which Fisher suffered at the end of June, his general
   condition  has worsened.  Doug Doidge, a long-time friend of Fisher's,
   and  a CVAR racer, has very kindly offered to help me to divest myself
   of  the  balance of the 'collection' of Fisher's auto parts etc.  I am
   almost entirely absorbed in caring for Fisher, but Doug has offered to
   make himself available, and another friend may also be here.  Doug has
   posted the following message on the CVAR mailing list:-
   GARAGE/YARD/RUMMAGE SALE OF IMPORT CARS AND PARTS

   August 16-17, near Comfort, Texas, 8AM to 5PM.  Sprite,

   Midget, MGB, Triumph, Jaguar, BMW, etc.  Bodies, engines,

   transmissions, rear-ends, etc.  Bring your trucks, trailers, tools

   (we have no loaners), and some help for loading.  Everything

   goes at 10 cents per lb. - if you don't buy it, the recycler will!

   Contact me for directions to the location.
   Douglas Doidge <dougdoidge at live.com>
   I  have  not  had  any  time to care for the property, so the grass is
   tall,  and the weeds are taller.  It will be hot, dirty, thirsty work.
   I  would  really like to get rid of everything, so then at least I may
   be  able  to  get  someone  in  to  tidy  the place up a bit, and have
   somewhere to house the cars that I want to keep.  Please be aware that
   most  of  these  items have been here for some time, some under cover,
   some  not - none of the body parts have been undercover, for instance.
   The  pole  barn is piled high with an assortment of pieces, to include
   various   blocks   in   indeterminate   condition.    There  are  used
   transmissions galore, again, condition unknown.  If any of it might be
   of use to you, you might consider coming to have a look.
   elizabeth
     _________________________________________________________________

   Fisher or Elizabeth Jones
   "A gentleman does not motor about after dark."  Joseph Lucas 1920

From RLHardison at verizon.net  Thu Aug 14 10:19:00 2008
From: RLHardison at verizon.net (Richard Hardison)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:19:00 -0500
Subject: [Vintage-race] Monterey Historics
Message-ID: <000001c8fe29$75cb4870$6161d950$@net>

Anyone on the list know the TV schedule for the 2008 Monterey Historics?

 

Richard

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sat Aug 16 16:38:33 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:38:33 -0500
Subject: [Vintage-race] sad news from Grattan
Message-ID: <000001c8fff0$d2494430$76dbcc90$@com>

I just got the call that this afternoon, longtime friend and fellow racer
Jack "Uncle Jack" Drews  (metallic blue TR4) was killed this afternoon in a
single car wreck at the end of the main straight at Grattan. Not sure
whether he had a heart attack on the way in or what, but the impact broke
his neck. 

 

Jack was just a wonderful, kind man. 

 

He's survived by his wife Francis, and racer son Tony who bother were at the
track. Jack was one of my best friends in racing. I've known him 15 years.
He was the original owner of my car Redrum.

 

More details when available.

 

WST

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sat Aug 16 16:41:06 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:41:06 -0500
Subject: [Vintage-race] story by Jack Drews
Message-ID: <000501c8fff1$2dc510f0$894f32d0$@com>

http://www.thicko.com/jack.htm

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Sat Aug 16 21:39:34 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:39:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Vintage-race] story by Jack Drews
Message-ID: <14004296.1218944374396.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Flounder,

I already read this 15 times before.  What is your reason?

Mike C

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>From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
>Sent: Aug 16, 2008 6:41 PM
>To: team-thicko at autox.team.net, vintage-race at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Vintage-race] story by Jack Drews
>
>http://www.thicko.com/jack.htm
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>

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From mark at bradakis.com  Sat Aug 16 22:03:26 2008
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:03:26 -0600
Subject: [Vintage-race] story by Jack Drews
In-Reply-To: <14004296.1218944374396.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <14004296.1218944374396.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <48A7A30E.5060609@bradakis.com>

> I already read this 15 times before.  What is your reason?
>   
Personally I thought it was a nice attempt to honor the man, one who
will be missed in the vintage racing community, especially among
Triumph drivers.  I would have read the whole thing again myself,
but got a 404 on the third page, bodies.htm  So it goes.

mjb.

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Aug 17 05:09:22 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:09:22 -0500
Subject: [Vintage-race] story by Jack Drews
In-Reply-To: <48A7A30E.5060609@bradakis.com>
References: <14004296.1218944374396.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<48A7A30E.5060609@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <001301c90059$b7b71c50$272554f0$@com>

Mark, thanks for the heads up on that... I'll look into that error. 

I met Jack when he'd written that story. He was hoping to have it published
somewhere, but ultimately, the Team Thicko website became the home for it.
Then I'd heard Jack had a bypass operation, and I think he still had staples
or stitches in his chest when I met him again at Blackhawk. I gave him a
Team Thicko hat, and he acted like I'd given him the Holy Grail. He was one
of the first to sport the Team Thicko logo on his racecar.

We got to know each other on and off the track. Jack described himself as an
amateur musician... a vocalist, and he, Frances, and Tony would always be in
the front row when the loosely knit Thicktones would gather and play on Sat.
evenings in Thicko Village. I drove to the Quad Cities for a number of
Jack's offseason parties, and 2 years ago, he and the family made the trek
to WI for my 50th b'day.

A funny thing about the story on the website... when I bought Redrum, my
main racecar, I had no idea it was the same car that Jack told of in the
story on my own website. I'd bought Jack's original racecar, and didn't even
know it at the time.

Jack was a hell of a racer... he'd been at it for nearly 50 years...
faithful Frances always there with him.  His son Tony is a great driver too,
and the 2 of them often had dices. What a joy that must have been... father
& son getting to race like that.

Jack was an excellent engineer, and car builder. He eeked out ridiculous
speed and handling from those old lumber wagon TR's he favored. He was
always there to help a fellow racer. He and the rest of Team Thicko's
Triumph contingent brought a whole different dynamic to the festivities, on
track and off.

We talked on the phone, just about every month during the off season,
discussing some theory or interesting idea, club politics, or plans for the
upcoming season. 

I would light up when I saw the Drews show up in Thicko Village... made it
seem like home away from home when all our friends would gather at the
track. It will seem a lot less like home without him.

WST

-----Original Message-----
From: vintage-race-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:vintage-race-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Mark J Bradakis
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 11:03 PM
To: vintage-race at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] story by Jack Drews

> I already read this 15 times before.  What is your reason?
>   
Personally I thought it was a nice attempt to honor the man, one who
will be missed in the vintage racing community, especially among
Triumph drivers.  I would have read the whole thing again myself,
but got a 404 on the third page, bodies.htm  So it goes.

mjb.

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Aug 18 05:34:05 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:34:05 -0500
Subject: [Vintage-race] Jack
Message-ID: <004501c90126$55ef4920$01cddb60$@com>

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/26256381/

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Aug 18 06:21:10 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:21:10 -0500
Subject: [Vintage-race] more Jack
Message-ID: <005601c9012c$e7b075e0$b71161a0$@com>

http://www.wwmt.com/articles/newschannel_1352369___article.html/driver_racin
g.html

From amqjr at aol.com  Mon Aug 18 06:36:39 2008
From: amqjr at aol.com (amqjr at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:36:39 -0400
Subject: [Vintage-race] ELVA
Message-ID: <8CACF463209E2BD-1EB4-8385@webmail-nb20.sysops.aol.com>

Help- I am in dire need a set of wishbones for an early Elva Courier. Anybody got anything?? Hopefully, Alex Quattlebaum

From centifolia at comcast.net  Mon Aug 18 08:35:02 2008
From: centifolia at comcast.net (Sandy Brown)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:35:02 -0400
Subject: [Vintage-race] ELVA
In-Reply-To: <8CACF463209E2BD-1EB4-8385@webmail-nb20.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CACF463209E2BD-1EB4-8385@webmail-nb20.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <005a01c9013f$9997f550$6601a8c0@ospreyone>

Try:

Kent Bain
kent at auto-restore.com
203-377-6745, ext. 16

I purchased a set from him a decade ago.

You can also post the question here on the forum at Roger Dunbar's site:

http://www.elva.com/index.php

Regards,
Vernon Brown


-----Original Message-----
From: vintage-race-bounces+centifolia=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:vintage-race-bounces+centifolia=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of amqjr at aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 8:37 AM
To: Vintage-race at autox.team.net
Subject: [Vintage-race] ELVA

Help- I am in dire need a set of wishbones for an early Elva Courier.
Anybody got anything? Hopefully, Alex Quattlebaum

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Aug 18 10:25:22 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:25:22 -0500
Subject: [Vintage-race] Jack's funeral
Message-ID: <003b01c9014f$05ab5b10$11021130$@com>

I spoke with Frances this AM. She's doing as well as someone can during this
difficult time. She thanked everyone for their kind words.

 

Services will be on Thursday, 10:30 AM at
http://www.geneseolutheranchurch.com/

 

That's Concordia Lutheran in Geneseo, IL.

 

There will be visitation on late Wed. afternoon, but I don't have details on
that yet.

 

WST

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Aug 18 21:07:02 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:07:02 -0500
Subject: [Vintage-race] Jack's services
Message-ID: <012d01c901a8$a8f805d0$fae81170$@com>

http://www.webfh.com/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=196598&fh_id=10589&ck=1

From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Aug 19 01:44:17 2008
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:44:17 -0600
Subject: [Vintage-race] Jack Drews arrangements
Message-ID: <20080819064615.E5F71187666@autox.team.net>

As you are probably aware, Jack Drews died Saturday, Aug. 16 while 
racing his lovely Triumph TR-4 at Grattan, MI.  We believe that he 
blacked out behind the wheel, causing him to drive off the end of the 
front straight without braking or turning.  It appears that he 
suffered a basal scull fracture in the impact with the 
embankment.  He was doing what he loved, with the people he 
loved.  We will all miss him, but he is in a better place now.

We have been overwhelmed by the support both at the track and upon 
returning home, and are grateful for everyone's thoughts and prayers.

We will be having visitation on Wednesday, Aug. 20 from 4:00 pm to 
7:00 pm at Stackhouse Moore Funeral Home, 225 E. Park Street, 
Geneseo, IL 61254.  The funeral will be on Thursday, Aug. 21 at 10:30 
am and will be followed by a luncheon at Concordia Lutheran Church, 
316 S. Oakwood Ave, Geneseo, IL 61254.

His obituary is on-line at: 
http://www.webfh.com/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=196598&fh_id=10589 
(or go to www.stackhousemoore.com and choose the link to Jack Drews 
on their main page)

For those who would like to attend from out of town, Geneseo has two 
recently built hotels:
AmeriHost Inn
309-945-9345
1375 S. Oakwood Ave
Geneseo, IL 61254
Rates: 2 queen beds: 77.99 plus tax (86.57), 1 king bed: 66.99 plus tax (74.36)
Directions: Coming from the I-80 exit to Geneseo, this is near the 
interstate behind the "Culvers" on the right hand side of the road.

Super 8 Motel
309-945-1898
765 W. Main St.
Geneseo, IL 61254
Rates: 2 double beds: 66.99 plus tax, 1 king bed: 62.99 plus tax
Directions: Coming from the I-80 exit to Geneseo, turn left at the 
2nd light (Main street).  The hotel will be on your right near the 
edge of town.

For those unable to attend that would like to honor Jack, donations 
may be sent to the Jack Drews Memorial Fund, 514 N. Vail, Geneseo, IL 
61254.  Or, you may make a donation in Jack's honor to the charity of 
your choice.

Thanks, Tony Drews

From ralph at cloverleaf-auto.com  Tue Aug 19 16:10:22 2008
From: ralph at cloverleaf-auto.com (Ralph Steinberg)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:10:22 -0400
Subject: [Vintage-race] (no subject)
Message-ID: <000001c90248$605d06e0$211714a0$@com>

I know, I know! It is only August 2008 so what am I talking about July 2009
for?!

  Well because I have such interesting information I want to get it to you
now so you can start planning next summer's vacation! Yeup! Next Summer! 

 Why? Because in 2009 Mini turns 50 and the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix
Association & the Vintage Racer Group have already started the ball rolling
for a slam bang festival for the 2009 Historic Races at BeaveRun. WAIT, do
not stop reading yet. Just because you do not have a Mini. We are also
changing some of the racing format and you need to check it out. Listening
to your input,  groups and races have changed a little bit and you need to
check it out! I think you will be pleased with the changes. Also what we
have planned for Mini's includes all years from the original to one rolling
off the showroom floor in 2009!

 We have Auto-Cross, Vintage/Historic Racing, Car Corral and more planned
for our Mini guests. So This may be the year your neighbor decides to come
on out to our event or is your normal driver a Mini? Bring it and run the
Auto-Cross or just show it off!

 For information, a tentative schedule, groups and if you raced with us this
year you can look at a grid sheet that will show you where you would be this
year, please go to www.cloverleaf-auto.com and click the vintage race button
and then the BeaveRun link

Thanks and keep tuned in

Ralph Steinberg

Director of Competition PVGPA BeaveRun Historics

From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Aug 19 17:23:25 2008
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:23:25 -0600
Subject: [Vintage-race] (Drews) Thursday Invitation, Thanks to all
Message-ID: <20080819232307.86FF218786C@autox.team.net>

For any of you planning to attend Jack's funeral on Thursday, there 
will be a luncheon at the church after the funeral, and you are 
welcome to stop by our house in Geneseo after the luncheon to 
celebrate Jack's life and times.  We even washed the garage floor so 
we'd have more places to stand around and tell tall tales.  514 N. 
Vail, Geneseo, IL 61254.

Thanks for all of the messages of sympathy and offers to 
help!  There's so many that I can't always reply individually.  We do 
read and appreciate each one, though.  As we're sorting through 
affairs after this week, we may be leaning on folks for help in 
getting top dollar out of some of Jack's Triumph stuff (like his street TR-6).

The tribute stuff is touching too.  I'll definitely be sporting one 
of the decals when they become available.

Thanks, Tony Drews

From twobees at sprynet.com  Tue Aug 19 20:11:17 2008
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:11:17 -0400
Subject: [Vintage-race] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
Message-ID: <008601c9026a$0804c8d0$62451645@normoffice>

Greetings All.

I'm just back from a hectic week in Monterey.  While out there, the shop
working on my Turner (948 A engine & trans) called to tell me the clutch was
pretty shot.  I won't know what size is in there until I pull the engine
beginning tomorrow night.  But, I THINK it's a 7-1/4 inch.  The number on
the pressure plate is HA1062.  Anyone know what that is?

While I will only be using the Turner for racing as driving a BRG, RHD
Turner here in Florida would be suicide, I don't necessarily need a
full-bore racing clutch.

I used the standard heavy-duty Borg & Beck in my MGB & just changed discs
annually.  That was a car I drove daily & raced a few times for 6 years.  I
haven't found anything comparable yet for the Spridget system in the Turner.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Norm Sippel
'59 Turner Mk1

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Aug 20 07:12:29 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:12:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Vintage-race] [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
Message-ID: <10883142.1219237949053.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Norm,

Whats makes driving the RHD Turner in Florida a suicide?  Just curious as I may move their some day.

Thanks,

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com>
>Sent: Aug 19, 2008 10:11 PM
>To: Spridgets Digest <spridgets at autox.team.net>, Vintage Racing
>	Digest <vintage-race at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
>
>Greetings All.
>
>I'm just back from a hectic week in Monterey.  While out there, the shop
>working on my Turner (948 A engine & trans) called to tell me the clutch was
>pretty shot.  I won't know what size is in there until I pull the engine
>beginning tomorrow night.  But, I THINK it's a 7-1/4 inch.  The number on
>the pressure plate is HA1062.  Anyone know what that is?
>
>While I will only be using the Turner for racing as driving a BRG, RHD
>Turner here in Florida would be suicide, I don't necessarily need a
>full-bore racing clutch.
>
>I used the standard heavy-duty Borg & Beck in my MGB & just changed discs
>annually.  That was a car I drove daily & raced a few times for 6 years.  I
>haven't found anything comparable yet for the Spridget system in the Turner.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Norm Sippel
>'59 Turner Mk1


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From mg72racer at juno.com  Wed Aug 20 08:34:42 2008
From: mg72racer at juno.com (mg72racer at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:34:42 GMT
Subject: [Vintage-race] Fall Festival
Message-ID: <20080820.093442.28680.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>

I'm looking for a few available crew openings for the Fall Festival.  If you
have an opening available I'd be much obliged.

Thanks,

Mal Fay

#72 MG Midget
#73 AH Sprite MKI

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From zero260 at comcast.net  Tue Aug 26 12:10:27 2008
From: zero260 at comcast.net (Jerry Burr)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:10:27 -0700
Subject: [Vintage-race] Monterey Historics TV times??
Message-ID: <004801c907a7$04efb140$6501a8c0@DGRKBDC1>

Anyone know when the Historics might be on TV....Or have I missed it ?
Thanks,
Jerry Burr

63 Legrand F-4

From bcarroll at artcraftkc.net  Tue Aug 26 12:18:23 2008
From: bcarroll at artcraftkc.net (Bill Carroll)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:18:23 -0500
Subject: [Vintage-race] Monterey Historics TV times??
References: <004801c907a7$04efb140$6501a8c0@DGRKBDC1>
Message-ID: <000801c907a8$20c80790$6c01a8c0@bill>

It's scheduled to run on Speed Sat., 9/27 at 1:00 PM Eastern.

Cheers,

Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Burr" <zero260 at comcast.net>
To: <vintage-race at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:10 PM
Subject: [Vintage-race] Monterey Historics TV times??


> Anyone know when the Historics might be on TV....Or have I missed it ?
> Thanks,
> Jerry Burr
> 
> 63 Legrand F-4
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