From mhkitchen at aol.com Tue Oct 2 10:58:12 2007 From: mhkitchen at aol.com (mhkitchen at aol.com) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:58:12 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Help identifying entries for 2008 Palo Alto Concours - Cars & Guitars Message-ID: <8C9D32C8D6958E3-370-6EA8@webmail-de12.sysops.aol.com> All: ? FYI, I'm helping out with the 2008 Palo Alto Concours next June, featuring Corvette, and Alfa Romeo.?? In addition, there will be a number of "special" displays as they have done in prior years.?? One possibility for one next year's "Special Displays" is a display of Cars and Guitars, highlighting some selections from those who appreciate vintage cars and guitars, and own both.?? Last year, Metallica guitarist Kirk Hammett had one of his cars on the field which prompted the thought for next year's display.? It seems there are lots of guitarists who are also car nuts and vice-versa (myself included), so such a display would have some appeal.? The Peterson Museum has also done special "Cars and Guitars" displays in the past as well.?? ? So, I'm looking for inputs on anyone you may know of who has an interesting collectible or special interest car, and also a collectible or historic guitar that they would be interested in displaying at Palo Alto.? Also, if anyone has connections to any of the following, that would also be much appreciated: Owner of the "Little Deuce Coupe" from the Beach Boys album (was at Pebble Beach?recently) Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top) Sammy Hagar Ray Shear (car collector, founder of Guitar Center) ? Of course, current or former celebrity-owned cars/guitars are also of great interest.? I am seeking to feature cars and guitars belonging to the same owner, if possible.?? In addition, interesting cars that?have appeared in music videos may also be of interest. ? Thanks for any assistance you may offer with this.? Please feel free to forward this to any other "car lists" you may be involved in.? ? Regards, Myles H. Kitchen 831 688-1822 ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From twobees at sprynet.com Tue Oct 2 11:05:39 2007 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:05:39 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Help identifying entries for 2008 Palo Alto Concours - Cars & Guitars In-Reply-To: <8C9D32C8D6958E3-370-6EA8@webmail-de12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <002001c80516$753535e0$c2431645@normoffice> Myles: Interesting that you should connect guitars & cars at this time. The last two issues of Vintage Racecar have carried ads for guitars by a vintage racer - Jol Dantzig. Are you a subscriber? Norm Sippel From no_bozos at bellsouth.net Tue Oct 2 15:15:25 2007 From: no_bozos at bellsouth.net (John A. Rollins) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:15:25 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Help identifying entries for 2008 Palo Alto Concours - Cars & Guitars In-Reply-To: <002001c80516$753535e0$c2431645@normoffice> Message-ID: <014101c80539$5d33a6c0$c802a8c0@BOZO> No, but I'm a Vintage guitar collector... *8o) Website: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-nobozos -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces+no_bozos=bellsouth.net at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces+no_bozos=bellsouth.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Norm Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:06 PM To: mhkitchen at aol.com; vintage-race at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Help identifying entries for 2008 Palo Alto Concours - Cars & Guitars Myles: Interesting that you should connect guitars & cars at this time. The last two issues of Vintage Racecar have carried ads for guitars by a vintage racer - Jol Dantzig. Are you a subscriber? Norm Sippel _______________________________________________ no_bozos at bellsouth.net Vintage-race mailing list Vintage-race at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From AnalogMike at aol.com Wed Oct 3 12:58:00 2007 From: AnalogMike at aol.com (AnalogMike at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 14:58:00 EDT Subject: [Vintage-race] Help identifying entries for 2008 Palo Alto Concours - Cars and guitars Message-ID: Wish I could make it out there... my 2 favorite things! Here is a recent picture of two of my yellow Neo-vintage pieces with stripes together :) http://www.analogman.com/911/viper/yellowstriped2001s.jpg I will put out the word and see if I can round up some machinery. Regards, mike piera AnalogMike at aol.com '73 911RS Clone, '08 GT3 Supercup my racing pages - http://www.analogman.com/911 ~^v^~ aNaLoG.MaN ~^v^~ guitar effects www.analogman.com ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From mgvrmark at hotmail.com Thu Oct 4 08:33:18 2007 From: mgvrmark at hotmail.com (Mark Palmer) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:33:18 +0000 Subject: [Vintage-race] VRG Turkey Bowl at Summit Point Message-ID: I's like to extend an invitation to the vintage racers on this list to join us at the VRG Turkey Bowl at Summit Point (main course) on Thanksgiving weekend. This event is probably the most low-key event on the calendar. It's a full three-day event, Fri/Sat/Sun with tons of track time. Entry fee is only $250 (earlybird -- by Nov 10th). The weather can be better than you'd expect. Last year it was 60 degrees for all three days, and Al Gore has personally guaranteed it will be at least 2 degrees warmer this year -- or he'll eat his polar cap. All vintage cars through 1972 are welcome. You don't need to be a member of VRG -- just need a vintage competition license (or "qualified driver" with a vintage club), and an eligible car (we prefer to see a vintage log book). Later cars can be accepted, either in the vintage race groups (if compatible) or in the modern car race groups organized by Mid-Atlantic Motorsports. The entry form can be found here: http://www.vrgonline.org/EVENTS/TURK/07TURKApp.pdf If that doesn't work, go to the web site www.vrgonline.org and click on "Events" then "Turkey Bowl" and you'll find the entry form on that page. We have also posted the FAQ's for this event, so if you have any questions please take a look at these, it will answer most of your questions. Mark Palmer Turkey Bowl Event Chairman _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Oct 4 10:35:21 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Vintage-race] VRG Turkey Bowl at Summit Point Message-ID: <22559104.1191515721739.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Mark, How many racers showed up last year and what do you expect for the turnout? I am a spectator and just want to know if it is worth the four hour drive. Thanks, Mike Carpenter -----Original Message----- >From: Mark Palmer >Sent: Oct 4, 2007 10:33 AM >To: vintage-race at autox.team.net >Subject: [Vintage-race] VRG Turkey Bowl at Summit Point > >I's like to extend an invitation to the vintage racers on this list to join us >at the VRG Turkey Bowl at Summit Point (main course) on Thanksgiving weekend. > >This event is probably the most low-key event on the calendar. It's a full >three-day event, Fri/Sat/Sun with tons of track time. Entry fee is only $250 >(earlybird -- by Nov 10th). > >The weather can be better than you'd expect. Last year it was 60 degrees for >all three days, and Al Gore has personally guaranteed it will be at least 2 >degrees warmer this year -- or he'll eat his polar cap. > >All vintage cars through 1972 are welcome. You don't need to be a member of >VRG -- just need a vintage competition license (or "qualified driver" with a >vintage club), and an eligible car (we prefer to see a vintage log book). >Later cars can be accepted, either in the vintage race groups (if compatible) >or in the modern car race groups organized by Mid-Atlantic Motorsports. > >The entry form can be found here: > >http://www.vrgonline.org/EVENTS/TURK/07TURKApp.pdf > >If that doesn't work, go to the web site www.vrgonline.org and click on >"Events" then "Turkey Bowl" and you'll find the entry form on that page. > >We have also posted the FAQ's for this event, so if you have any questions >please take a look at these, it will answer most of your questions. > >Mark Palmer >Turkey Bowl Event Chairman >_________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From sevenamerica at yahoo.com Fri Oct 5 13:00:07 2007 From: sevenamerica at yahoo.com (John Donohoe) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vintage-race] SimpleSevens Visit to 50 Years Event: teaser video online Message-ID: <804104.67041.qm@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Clickable from the SimpleSevens home page: http://www.simplesevens.org riught next to the birthday cake! It about a 10 meg .mov file, so don't hold yer breath while it downloads! If anyone has suggestions on how to make it smaller or download quicker, I'm all ears! The REAL report will be in web page format :-) Cheers, John D. SimpleSevens ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From twobees at sprynet.com Fri Oct 12 12:40:50 2007 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:40:50 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Racecar Simulators - Any Experience? Message-ID: <001b01c80cff$69dcf020$48451645@normoffice> I have some clients who sell these high-end computer "games" called simulators. With race seat, steering wheel, instruments, gear selector & flat screen(s) they seem barely short of flight simulators. They look like they are incredible training devices. They have a great number of tracks available and even different cars. Do any of you have experience with any of them? And, how do they compare with "the real thing"? Norm Sippel Alfa & Turner - bet they don't have these cars programmed From greenman62 at hotmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:15:12 2007 From: greenman62 at hotmail.com (greenman62 at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:15:12 +0000 Subject: [Vintage-race] Racecar Simulators - Any Experience? In-Reply-To: <001b01c80cff$69dcf020$48451645@normoffice> References: <001b01c80cff$69dcf020$48451645@normoffice> Message-ID: Some... I have the racing simulation games GT Legends and GT2R these are racing sims that are commercially available. I've also played Grand Prix Legends which is pretty good too. These among other games can be used with your home PC with steering wheel/pedal set up. While these are okay there's something that's lost without the "seat feel". These sims really come into their own with a racing simulator cockpit. The really good units take the feedback from the game and feed it into the seat, and steering wheel so the experience begins to approach what you would feel in a car. Of course a simulator cockpits are expensive...expect to pay $1500 and up for the really good ones. Getting a more expensive feedback wheel, shifter and pedal set up would be a starting point. It's kind of like racing for real... how fast can you afford? YMMV Greg Petrolati Champaign, Illinois That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... > From: twobees at sprynet.com > To: MGVR at yahoogroups.com; vintage-race at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:40:50 -0400 > Subject: [Vintage-race] Racecar Simulators - Any Experience? > > I have some clients who sell these high-end computer "games" called > simulators. With race seat, steering wheel, instruments, gear selector & > flat screen(s) they seem barely short of flight simulators. They look like > they are incredible training devices. They have a great number of tracks > available and even different cars. > > Do any of you have experience with any of them? And, how do they compare > with "the real thing"? > > Norm Sippel > Alfa & Turner - bet they don't have these cars programmed > _______________________________________________ > greenman62 at hotmail.com > > Vintage-race mailing list > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Oct 12 18:46:59 2007 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vintage-race] Racecar Simulators - Any Experience? In-Reply-To: <001b01c80cff$69dcf020$48451645@normoffice> Message-ID: <871206.88340.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> No personal experience, but this looks interesting: http://iracing.com/ Rick Norm wrote: I have some clients who sell these high-end computer "games" called simulators. With race seat, steering wheel, instruments, gear selector & flat screen(s) they seem barely short of flight simulators. They look like they are incredible training devices. They have a great number of tracks available and even different cars. Do any of you have experience with any of them? And, how do they compare with "the real thing"? Norm Sippel Alfa & Turner - bet they don't have these cars programmed _______________________________________________ healeyrick at yahoo.com Vintage-race mailing list Vintage-race at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. From GOFASTMG at aol.com Sat Oct 13 13:18:25 2007 From: GOFASTMG at aol.com (GOFASTMG at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:18:25 EDT Subject: [Vintage-race] Racecar Simulators - Any Experience? Message-ID: Interestingly enough, in the local paper this morning, there was an article on the front of the sports section about a local oval track racer trying to break into the Busch series, and how he was using a simulator to learn the new tracks. The article stated that his system cost in the neighborhood of $5K, but it had everything down to a special seat that simulated the vibrations of a Busch car. He claimed it helped by cutting down on the time to learn a new track. For what it's worth, he finished 23rd. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From don.queen at gmail.com Sat Oct 13 13:28:05 2007 From: don.queen at gmail.com (Don Queen) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:28:05 -0700 Subject: [Vintage-race] Racecar Simulators - Any Experience? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7d7cd5f00710131228j486596camf0b92d60804f54b7@mail.gmail.com> As an inexpensive alternative, consider the Freeway Ramp Racing Simulator. I used to live near the freeway and it was over 1/2 mile between the entrance ramp and the next exit with a dedicated lane going from one to another so I never had to enter traffic. I could run all 5 gears and hit over a 100 before braking radically and then using the duplicate return route. Not much for handling but what a cheap break-in session. Don On 10/13/07, GOFASTMG at aol.com wrote: > > Interestingly enough, in the local paper this morning, there was an > article > on the front of the sports section about a local oval track racer trying > to > break into the Busch series, and how he was using a simulator to learn the > new > tracks. > > The article stated that his system cost in the neighborhood of $5K, but it > had everything down to a special seat that simulated the vibrations of a > Busch > car. He claimed it helped by cutting down on the time to learn a > new track. > > For what it's worth, he finished 23rd. > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > don.queen at gmail.com > > Vintage-race mailing list > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race > -- 13614 Lake Wildwood Dr Penn Valley, Ca. 95946 530-432-9520 Cell 530-277-7372 From peter at peterkrause.net Sat Oct 13 16:17:09 2007 From: peter at peterkrause.net (Peter Krause) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:17:09 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Sims Message-ID: Greg, buddy, try $25K for a top-line sim cockpit with a PC, PS3 and a XBox 360 all in one, plasma screen, full dash, racing seat and harnesses, full force feedback, calibrated brake pedal pressure and a functioning clutch! You British car guys are such cheapskates! Seriously Norm, all the top coaches I know (myself included ) use sims to acclimate and familiarize drivers with various courses. Heck, I won my first race at Barber in July of 2003 after practicing for a few weeks on the superb rendition of the track in rFactor. Bob Earl, Ross Bentley and a bunch of the rest of us use them all the time. Heck, there's a story on Planet F1 right now about Hamilton shunning the McLaren simulator for a good old PS3 version of Brazil to practice for next weeks race! PM me or call me off-list so as not to bother the group and I'll fill you in. Mild to wild, you can run the full gamut. Consoles are inexpensive but limited in their course offerings. PC's offer wider range but require the most up-to-date hardware and more than a little knowledge to make it all work. -Peter (at Targa 66, back Monday) www.peterkrause.net From chris at cthompson.net Sat Oct 13 18:03:12 2007 From: chris at cthompson.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:03:12 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Sims In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47115CC0.3000700@cthompson.net> Oh, come on, Peter, give us the bird's eye low down. I just put in one of those old big screen TV's in the room above the garage, and was just thinking tonite how kewl it would be to put a modest simulator up there in front of it. Teach, teacher...... Chris Peter Krause wrote: > Greg, buddy, try $25K for a top-line sim cockpit with a PC, PS3 and a XBox > 360 all in one, plasma screen, full dash, racing seat and harnesses, full > force feedback, calibrated brake pedal pressure and a functioning clutch! > You British car guys are such cheapskates! > > Seriously Norm, all the top coaches I know (myself included ) use sims > to acclimate and familiarize drivers with various courses. Heck, I won my > first race at Barber in July of 2003 after practicing for a few weeks on the > superb rendition of the track in rFactor. Bob Earl, Ross Bentley and a > bunch of the rest of us use them all the time. Heck, there's a story on > Planet F1 right now about Hamilton shunning the McLaren simulator for a good > old PS3 version of Brazil to practice for next weeks race! > > PM me or call me off-list so as not to bother the group and I'll fill you > in. > > Mild to wild, you can run the full gamut. Consoles are inexpensive but > limited in their course offerings. PC's offer wider range but require the > most up-to-date hardware and more than a little knowledge to make it all > work. From greenman62 at hotmail.com Sat Oct 13 21:05:03 2007 From: greenman62 at hotmail.com (greenman62 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:05:03 +0000 Subject: [Vintage-race] Sims In-Reply-To: <47115CC0.3000700@cthompson.net> References: <47115CC0.3000700@cthompson.net> Message-ID: > Peter Krause wrote: > > Greg, buddy, try $25K for a top-line sim cockpit with a PC, PS3 and a XBox > > 360 all in one, plasma screen, full dash, racing seat and harnesses, full > > force feedback, calibrated brake pedal pressure and a functioning clutch! > > You British car guys are such cheapskates! If it don't leak, how can you tell it's working? Dang! for 25 large I could get a really nice TR4 race car, trailer and ratty Chebby Subooboo to haul it with... Prolly get a couple race weekends to boot. Tanks... I'll stay with my Momo feedback wheel & pedal set... `might upgrade the `puter tho. Greg Petrolati Champaign, Illinois That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... From twobees at sprynet.com Sun Oct 14 11:57:51 2007 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:57:51 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Sims In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000f01c80e8b$bd457d30$63451645@normoffice> Peter: The ones I've seen are priced from c. $12K. With more immediate needs like a manifold to put the DCOE 40s on the Alfa & a race engine to preserve the current original one, I think they'll have to wait. But, I will call for more info, Ciao! Norm -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces+twobees=sprynet.com at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces+twobees=sprynet.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Krause Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 6:17 PM To: vintage-race at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Sims Greg, buddy, try $25K for a top-line sim cockpit with a PC, PS3 and a XBox 360 all in one, plasma screen, full dash, racing seat and harnesses, full force feedback, calibrated brake pedal pressure and a functioning clutch! You British car guys are such cheapskates! Seriously Norm, all the top coaches I know (myself included ) use sims to acclimate and familiarize drivers with various courses. Heck, I won my first race at Barber in July of 2003 after practicing for a few weeks on the superb rendition of the track in rFactor. Bob Earl, Ross Bentley and a bunch of the rest of us use them all the time. Heck, there's a story on Planet F1 right now about Hamilton shunning the McLaren simulator for a good old PS3 version of Brazil to practice for next weeks race! PM me or call me off-list so as not to bother the group and I'll fill you in. Mild to wild, you can run the full gamut. Consoles are inexpensive but limited in their course offerings. PC's offer wider range but require the most up-to-date hardware and more than a little knowledge to make it all work. -Peter (at Targa 66, back Monday) www.peterkrause.net _______________________________________________ twobees at sprynet.com Vintage-race mailing list Vintage-race at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From cfchrist at earthlink.net Sun Oct 14 12:45:50 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:45:50 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Vintage-race] mr. krause! Message-ID: <30671682.1192387550446.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> peter, good to see you at VIR! yeah i blew nascar bend once a day throughout the event! trying to break the 3 minute barrier for a saab! well there is always next year.... :) chuck. '60 saab 93F #251 From Roger.Sieling at telesistech.com Mon Oct 15 09:21:14 2007 From: Roger.Sieling at telesistech.com (Roger Sieling) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:21:14 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Racecar Simulators - Any Experience? References: <7d7cd5f00710131228j486596camf0b92d60804f54b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Don, You don't have a single seater, do you. Oh how I wish I twere that simple. Roger -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces+rogsie=telesistech.com at autox.team.net [mailto:vintage-race-bounces+rogsie=telesistech.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Queen Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 3:28 PM To: GOFASTMG at aol.com Cc: vintage-race at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Vintage-race] Racecar Simulators - Any Experience? As an inexpensive alternative, consider the Freeway Ramp Racing Simulator. I used to live near the freeway and it was over 1/2 mile between the entrance ramp and the next exit with a dedicated lane going from one to another so I never had to enter traffic. I could run all 5 gears and hit over a 100 before braking radically and then using the duplicate return route. Not much for handling but what a cheap break-in session. Don On 10/13/07, GOFASTMG at aol.com wrote: > > Interestingly enough, in the local paper this morning, there was an > article on the front of the sports section about a local oval track > racer trying to break into the Busch series, and how he was using a > simulator to learn the new tracks. > > The article stated that his system cost in the neighborhood of $5K, > but it had everything down to a special seat that simulated the > vibrations of a Busch car. He claimed it helped by cutting down on the > time to learn a new track. > > For what it's worth, he finished 23rd. > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com _______________________________________________ > don.queen at gmail.com > > Vintage-race mailing list > Vintage-race at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race > -- 13614 Lake Wildwood Dr Penn Valley, Ca. 95946 530-432-9520 Cell 530-277-7372 _______________________________________________ rogsie at telesistech.com Vintage-race mailing list Vintage-race at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From zeke5550 at aol.com Fri Oct 19 15:07:06 2007 From: zeke5550 at aol.com (zeke5550 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:07:06 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] 1928 BMW Dixi Roadster Message-ID: <8C9E0AB23C3A810-538-5516@FWM-D40.sysops.aol.com> I have a question for the list.? A friend of a friend has a '28 BMW Dixi Roadster he is trying to value and sell.? I looked at the car from a distance and it is quite nice.? It was restored 4 or 5 years ago and it is not in show quality but certainly a very nice driver.? Would this be a good car to use in the?Pre-war class and what is a fair value? Gary Kropf '59 Bugeye aka Thicko 'Grenade' - Did not go off in '06 and now working on keeping pin in for '07 Life's Journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting..Holy Shit!! What a Ride!!" ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From Roger.Sieling at telesistech.com Fri Oct 19 20:21:08 2007 From: Roger.Sieling at telesistech.com (Roger Sieling) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:21:08 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] 1928 BMW Dixi Roadster References: <8C9E0AB23C3A810-538-5516@FWM-D40.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: The Dixi is a licensed version of an Austin Seven. Not sure how much is interchangeable. Roger -----Original Message----- From: vintage-race-bounces+rogsie=telesistech.com at autox.team.net on behalf of zeke5550 at aol.com Sent: Fri 10/19/2007 5:07 PM To: vintage-race at autox.team.net; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: [Vintage-race] 1928 BMW Dixi Roadster I have a question for the list.? A friend of a friend has a '28 BMW Dixi Roadster he is trying to value and sell.? I looked at the car from a distance and it is quite nice.? It was restored 4 or 5 years ago and it is not in show quality but certainly a very nice driver.? Would this be a good car to use in the?Pre-war class and what is a fair value? Gary Kropf '59 Bugeye aka Thicko 'Grenade' - Did not go off in '06 and now working on keeping pin in for '07 Life's Journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting..Holy Shit!! What a Ride!!" ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com _______________________________________________ rogsie at telesistech.com Vintage-race mailing list Vintage-race at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From mra at sympatico.ca Sun Oct 21 14:42:04 2007 From: mra at sympatico.ca (Michael Rosen) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:42:04 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Mustang For Sale Message-ID: <471BB99C.9040708@sympatico.ca> For sale: 1966, 298 cid Mustang Sedan (Think Trans-Am). Great condition - California car, winter stored - present owner is second from new, $25,000 CDN. Photos on request. Car is in downtown Toronto. 416-927-9866 or trelawny at sothebysrealty.ca Note: Please don't contact me - I'm posting for a friend. From sevenamerica at yahoo.com Wed Oct 24 08:25:04 2007 From: sevenamerica at yahoo.com (John Donohoe) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vintage-race] SimpleSevens Update ;-) Message-ID: <891738.53568.qm@web32709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cheers Gents, Mostly added new photos in the 50th Event Gallery... I'll accept entries until the end of this month (31 October) then will prep the page to accept votes from you for your favorites! The voting will end at the end of the year (two months to get all your mates to vote for your photo) and in January I'll come up with a suitable prize :-) How does this fit with posting my story of attending the 50th Anniversary Event and the redesign of the site? I dunno, but at least I'm doing something with it again :-)))) I may end up posting my story in chapters - just not hardly a spare minute here lately! Cheers, John Donohoe SimpleSevens.org Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From spmdr at juno.com Wed Oct 24 10:30:06 2007 From: spmdr at juno.com (spmdr at juno.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:30:06 -0700 Subject: [Vintage-race] Fwd: Sad event results- Carrera GT crash at Fontana lawsuit settled Message-ID: <20071024.093007.-100061.0.spmdr@juno.com> We will see if this has any real effect on us. ...I don't usually forward links but this is a bit much to copy. ...Brings up the issue of degree of negligence. DW http://www.sportscarmarket.com/content/carrera From mgvrmark at hotmail.com Wed Oct 24 11:40:55 2007 From: mgvrmark at hotmail.com (Mark Palmer) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:40:55 +0000 Subject: [Vintage-race] Scratch & sniff tires? Message-ID: No, we are not making this up ... just read about this in Road & Track: "KUMHO ECSTA DX Aroma: No typical new tire smell. Designed for fitments on high-end luxury sedans, this innovative tire comes in a lavender fragrance that is activated via heat-resistant oils that are infused in the tread compound." R&T says the smell (excuse me, aroma) should last the life of the tire. It's activated by heat from rolling friction. Don't believe it? Go to their web site, http://www.kumhousa.com/tires/passenger/ultra-high-performance/KU33.do It's all there, plain as the nose on your face (so to speak). They conclude by saying "Kumho has no competition in the Aroma field." Gee, I wonder why? But just imagine the future fragrance possibilities once this takes off. They are already talking about orange and jasmine. I'd vote for peanut butter, or a good burgundy with a just a hint of raspberries in the nose. No word yet on whether these will be vintage legal. "Sorry mate you car doesn't pass tech, it smells like a french whorehouse." Mark Palmer _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971 033 From djshea11 at juno.com Wed Oct 24 12:30:39 2007 From: djshea11 at juno.com (djshea11 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:30:39 GMT Subject: [Vintage-race] Fwd: Sad event results- Carrera GT crash at Fontana lawsuit settled Message-ID: <20071024.143039.9808.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> Sounds like a lawyer doing what lawyers do, (Ruin just about every fun activity for a few bucks ) The world would be a much better placs if someone would develope a lawyer flesh eating virus and turn it loose. Remember the lady drag-racer from Texas that almost ended all racing in the US with her suit that had the few remaining insurance companies ready to bail on racing coverage. It probably will end club track days and make another scumbag lawyer rich. Dennis From nick at 3rdtech.com Wed Oct 24 12:31:30 2007 From: nick at 3rdtech.com (Nick England) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:31:30 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Scratch & sniff tires? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <028601c8166c$19ad3580$2f0212ac@Heathkit2> Maybe they make a vintage racing version that smells like Castrol R ? -----Original Message----- "KUMHO ECSTA DX Aroma: No typical new tire smell. Designed for fitments on..." From PaceCars at aol.com Wed Oct 24 15:11:01 2007 From: PaceCars at aol.com (PaceCars at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:11:01 EDT Subject: [Vintage-race] Scratch & sniff tires? Message-ID: Not legal unless it smells like burned castor oil... Harold Pace In a message dated 10/24/07 10:41:45 AM, mgvrmark at hotmail.com writes: > No, we are not making this up ... just read about this in Road & Track: > > "KUMHO ECSTA DX Aroma: No typical new tire smell. Designed for fitments on > high-end luxury sedans, this innovative tire comes in a lavender fragrance > that is activated via heat-resistant oils that are infused in the tread > compound." R&T says the smell (excuse me, aroma) should last the life of > the > tire. It's activated by heat from rolling friction. > > Don't believe it? Go to their web site, > http://www.kumhousa.com/tires/passenger/ultra-high-performance/KU33.do > > It's all there, plain as the nose on your face (so to speak). > > They conclude by saying "Kumho has no competition in the Aroma field." Gee, > I > wonder why? But just imagine the future fragrance possibilities once this > takes off. They are already talking about orange and jasmine. I'd vote for > peanut butter, or a good burgundy with a just a hint of raspberries in the > nose. > > No word yet on whether these will be vintage legal. "Sorry mate you car > doesn't pass tech, it smells like a french whorehouse." > > Mark Palmer > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 16:21:41 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:21:41 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Vintage-race] Scratch & sniff tires? Message-ID: <26797890.1193264501948.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> hmmm , i smell untastefull activity here! where are the castor oil scented tires?!!!! chuck. '60 saab 93F #251 ha-ha-ha i just aquired a few quarts of real "castrol R"! now we are going vintage racing! *wink* :) -----Original Message----- >From: Mark Palmer >Sent: Oct 24, 2007 1:40 PM >To: "VRG, Newsgroup" , "MGVR, Egroup" , vintage-race at autox.team.net >Subject: [Vintage-race] Scratch & sniff tires? > >No, we are not making this up ... just read about this in Road & Track: > >"KUMHO ECSTA DX Aroma: No typical new tire smell. Designed for fitments on >high-end luxury sedans, this innovative tire comes in a lavender fragrance >that is activated via heat-resistant oils that are infused in the tread >compound." R&T says the smell (excuse me, aroma) should last the life of the >tire. It's activated by heat from rolling friction. > >Don't believe it? Go to their web site, >http://www.kumhousa.com/tires/passenger/ultra-high-performance/KU33.do > >It's all there, plain as the nose on your face (so to speak). > >They conclude by saying "Kumho has no competition in the Aroma field." Gee, I >wonder why? But just imagine the future fragrance possibilities once this >takes off. They are already talking about orange and jasmine. I'd vote for >peanut butter, or a good burgundy with a just a hint of raspberries in the >nose. > >No word yet on whether these will be vintage legal. "Sorry mate you car >doesn't pass tech, it smells like a french whorehouse." > >Mark Palmer >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it >now. >http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL10062697 1 >033 >_______________________________________________ >cfchrist at earthlink.net > >Vintage-race mailing list >Vintage-race at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/vintage-race From PaceCars at aol.com Wed Oct 24 17:26:59 2007 From: PaceCars at aol.com (PaceCars at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:26:59 EDT Subject: [Vintage-race] Scratch & sniff tires? Message-ID: THAT'S what I was trying to say...age gets to you! Thanks, Harold In a message dated 10/24/07 11:36:08 AM, nick at 3rdtech.com writes: > Maybe they make a vintage racing version that smells like Castrol R ? > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From mhkitchen at aol.com Mon Oct 29 11:05:06 2007 From: mhkitchen at aol.com (mhkitchen at aol.com) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:05:06 -0400 Subject: [Vintage-race] Old Trans Am Photos from Laguna Seca found Message-ID: <8C9E86D5F294BB2-7BC-57C5@webmail-stg-d07.sysops.aol.com> All: FYI, my wife was going through some old photos and found some that her ex took at the Trans Am Races at Laguna Seca, looks to be circa 1970.? These are small format (110) color prints, but pretty good shots of several of the cars.? I've listed below which cars I have photos of.? Contact me off-line if you'd like a scanned copy.? Email me at MHKitchen at aol.com. Plymouth Cuda #48 (dark blue) Chapparal Camaro #2 (white) Sunoco Javelin #6 (red,white, blue) Boss 302 Mustang #15 (grabber orange) Regards, Myles H. Kitchen 1965 Lotus Cortina Mk1 #128 ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From peter at nosimport.com Mon Oct 29 15:26:10 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:26:10 -0500 Subject: [Vintage-race] Fwd: [TR] FW: [Fot] Just Sick - car stolen Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071029172437.038382e0@nosimport.com> >Washshington Stae..... >---------- >From: "Chuck Arnold" >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:06:13 -0700 >To: Friends >Subject: [Fot] Just Sick - car stolen > >Came home from a 5 day trip to find only the remnants of the smashed >receiver lock where my trailer, containing my TR250 race car, was when I >left. Hoped like hell it had been impounded for parking too long in a city >lot [I live on a houseboat and the trailer lives in the lot where I park]. >No such luck. Police report filed, insurance claim in. > >Information: Trailer was a white 16x7 Road force. No exterior markings. >Car: BRG #444 TR5. Accusump and dual master cylinders under hood. Battery >and cell in rear. Full cage. Stainless lines to the injectors. Mallory >distributor. Fabricated dash. No speedo. 4 speed, no OD. > >Photos at: >http://picasaweb.google.com/Triosan/StolenTR5 > >-- >Chuck Arnold >trhouse at greenapple.com >Fot mailing list >Fot at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot >_______________________________________________ >peter at nosimport.com > >This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register >http://www.vtr.org > >Triumphs mailing list >Triumphs at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs