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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Other Forums have places like the Triumph Experience has “The Pub” where drunken fist-throwing virtual drive-by shooting conversations can be had, but even those forums have very strict rules against direct attacks on its members. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I will never tolerate direct attacks on another member, nor does this list allow direct attacks in its use policy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The better response by me, and possibly every other member could or should be: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>“hey xyz member, your post violates the terms of use of this list, please withdraw your post, publicly apologize or unsubscribe.” <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>… with a link to the list terms and the unsubscribe process. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>That is proper decorum and responsible self-moderation by the terms of use for this list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I’ve not used the list is the past for political purposes or intentional violent personal attacks, however the posts of those few others were and are so far outside the use policy and self-moderated decorum for this list that frankly I had enough of the personal attacks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I will make apologies to this list for my atomic weapon going over the top in direct response to the personal attacks; but I will not withdraw it as it is a perfect example of what personal attacks are not in scope of this list, and should be self-moderated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This teams dot net has always self-moderated itself because the users typically held themselves to some level higher level of decorum because they were considered “responsible members” who agreed to the terms of use. Flame war personal attacks were never allowed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Passionate hobby enthusiasm about our vehicles is far different than directly attacking other enthusiasts, and when that happens, a responsible person unsubscribes when they cannot self-moderate, and a responsible list user calls them out on their abuse of the list terms.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I did not start the battle nor have I leveraged the forums in the past for political reasons. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The attacks by several members were deliberate and targeted made to incite a political flame war, so it needed to be moderated by the responsible users of this list and the posters notified the content was so far outside the purpose of this mail list they should be warned or banned. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Those who decide to unsubscribe from this list because they cannot freely attack other members on this list or separate their politics from the hobby, that is entirely their right and is the rules of using this list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The only flags flown here should be those of Standard Triumph, British Leyland, JLR, or if one’s politics so consume your life that it cannot be separated from this hobby in the list posts or at marque shows, please leave.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Other apologies from the other offenders are in order and required.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Glenn A. Merrell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>a.k.a. StagByTriumph<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 7, 2026 7:01 AM<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Politics and the Triumph List<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>I belong to a huge online forum, the garage journal, some of you.may be members too. It has a strict no politics rule. If you break it you are kicked out.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It works, and you avoid the stuff we went through. Mark doesn't get paid enough to be traffic cop here and I hate to ascribe thoughts to a person, but I wouldn't be surprised if when he sees stuff like this he thinks about just shutting it all down.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have strong feelings about this stuff too, express them some places, not here, time and place gents, time and place.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Greg Lemon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>TR250<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>