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I have a separate ground for each motor mount. If NO ground you will melt the choke cable.</div>
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No dash lights. All the lamps you are looking for meet at hot side of the rotary dash dimmer.</div>
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1. testing brake light switch (dave northrup)<br>
2. Re: electrical issue (Alex&Janet Thomson)<br>
3. Re: electrical issue (dave northrup)<br>
4. Re: electrical issue (Allan Stults)<br>
5. Re: electrical issue (bill beecher)<br>
6. Re: new hubs (Andrew S. Mace)<br>
7. Re: electrical issue (DAVID MASSEY)<br>
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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:39:02 +0000<br>
From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com><br>
To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [TR] testing brake light switch<br>
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I think I can use a compressor to test a brake light switch for a TR3A. how much pressure? Is 35 pounds too much?<br>
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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 16:14:58 -0400<br>
From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson@charter.net><br>
To: "'auprichard uprichard.net'" <auprichard@uprichard.net>, "'Tony<br>
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Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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Isn't there supposed to be a ground strap from the engine block to the body somewhere?<br>
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of auprichard uprichard.net<br>
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2026 7:43 AM<br>
To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?<br>
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> > On Behalf Of Tony Drews<br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded.<br>
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On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<br>
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Yes ? same circuit. But I?d also expect the front side lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.<br>
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Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.<br>
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From: Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Stults<br>
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Subject: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items are working.
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I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items are working. Are those
2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit? Everything was working before the paint job.<br>
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Thanks in advance for any help,<br>
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Allan Stults<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 22:21:04 +0000<br>
From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com><br>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>, Tony Drews<br>
<tony@tonydrews.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"<br>
<triumphs@autox.team.net>, auprichard uprichard.net<br>
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Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits<br>
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From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com><br>
Date: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00)<br>
To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net, "auprichard uprichard.net" <auprichard@uprichard.net><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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Good point. it wouldn't. But the information offered was a bit sparce. Is it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?<br>
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I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness. It was a dealer upgrade at some point. Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block for that.<br>
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Dave<br>
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote:<br>
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But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?<br>
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Tony Drews<br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded.<br>
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Regards, Tony<br>
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On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<br>
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Yes ? same circuit. But I?d also expect the front side lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.<br>
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Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.<br>
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net><mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Stults<br>
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Subject: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items are working.<br>
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I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items are working. Are those
2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit? Everything was working before the paint job.<br>
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Thanks in advance for any help,<br>
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Allan Stults<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:55:00 -0700<br>
From: "Allan Stults" <acstults@hushmail.com><br>
To: "DAVID MASSEY" <dave1massey@cs.com>, "Tony Drews"<br>
<tony@tonydrews.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net, "auprichard<br>
uprichard.net" <auprichard@uprichard.net><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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The brake lights work as do the turn signals. All gauges work as does<br>
the heater fan. Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work. I<br>
believe there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct? I've replaced<br>
them both. I can find no loose wires under the dash. The wiring<br>
harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness. <br>
Everything worked until the paint job.<br>
Thanks again all for your info,<br>
Allan<br>
On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY" wrote:Good point. it<br>
wouldn't. But the information offered was a bit sparce. Is it just<br>
the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?<br>
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness. <br>
It was a dealer upgrade at some point. Later TR's have a fuse in the<br>
fuse block for that.<br>
Dave <br>
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT,<br>
auprichard uprichard.net wrote: <br>
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But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights? <br>
From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Tony Drews<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue <br>
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and<br>
the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On<br>
4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ?<br>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <br>
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and<br>
the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. <br>
<br>
Regards, Tony <br>
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On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: <br>
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Yes ? same circuit. But I?d also expect the front side lights /<br>
running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too. <br>
Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light<br>
switch. <br>
From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Allan Stults<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: [TR] electrical issue <br>
I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it<br>
apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home,<br>
I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.<br>
All other electrical items are working. <br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it<br>
apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it <br>
home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not<br>
working. All other electrical items are working. Are those 2 items,<br>
dash and tail lights on the same circuit? Everything was working<br>
before the paint job. <br>
Thanks in advance for any help, <br>
Allan Stults <br>
<br>
Veneta, Oregon <br>
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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 20:24:36 -0500<br>
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 04:04:01 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: "Andrew S. Mace" <zoboherald@aol.com><br>
To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>, dave<br>
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Subject: Re: [TR] new hubs<br>
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As I recall, various factory service bulletins noted that 5/16" needed to be removed from the studs.<br>
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Hi.? I?m going to order adapters, wire wheels and tires as soon as my project gets close to completion (1958 Triumph TR3A).? I purchased these hubs from BPNorthwest, and I am trying to figure out if I need to shorten the wheel studs.? They are .938? long.?
Will that interfere with the adapters??<br>
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I have asked BP Northwest but they are not very forthcoming with an answer<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:11:57 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com><br>
To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"<br>
<triumphs@autox.team.net>, "auprichard uprichard.net"<br>
<auprichard@uprichard.net>, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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The TR6 definitely does.? And I recall reading that the TR3 had an issue where the tail lights were susceptible to damage from other cars,? being mounted so low, that the red wire could get grounded out and when the lights were switched on the harness would
melt causing potential fire so the factor at some point put in an in-line fuse just for such an occurrence.<br>
In fact, a quick Google search shows several sources indicating that fact and the location of the fuse (although the location varies from passenger footwell and under hood next to the voltage regulator.<br>
But the fact remains that if the tail lights AND the dash lights are not working it is likely a common feed point interruption which could be a fuse or a dodgey bullet connector.<br>
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Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits<br>
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-------- Original message --------From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> Date: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net, "auprichard uprichard.net" <auprichard@uprichard.net>Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue
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Good point.? it wouldn't.? But the information offered was a bit sparce.? Is it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?<br>
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.? It was a dealer upgrade at some point.? Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block for that.<br>
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote:<br>
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But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?<br>
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Tony Drews<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded.<br>
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On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<br>
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Yes ? same circuit.? But I?d also expect the front side lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.<br>
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Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.<br>
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From: Triumphs<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Stults<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items are working.<br>
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I have a '62 TR 3B.? I recently had it painted.? The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).? After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.? All other electrical items are working.? Are those
2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit?? Everything was working before the paint job.<br>
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Thanks in advance for any help,<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:13:15 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com><br>
To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"<br>
<triumphs@autox.team.net>, "auprichard uprichard.net"<br>
<auprichard@uprichard.net>, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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But you are right in that there wasn't a fuse in the beginning and it was added as an afterthought.? It's a good idea regardless.<br>
Dave <br>
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:21:07 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
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Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits<br>
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-------- Original message --------From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> Date: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net, "auprichard uprichard.net" <auprichard@uprichard.net>Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue
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Good point.? it wouldn't.? But the information offered was a bit sparce.? Is it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?<br>
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.? It was a dealer upgrade at some point.? Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block for that.<br>
Dave <br>
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote:<br>
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But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?<br>
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Tony Drews<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded.<br>
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Regards, Tony<br>
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On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<br>
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Yes ? same circuit.? But I?d also expect the front side lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.<br>
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?<br>
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Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.<br>
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?<br>
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From: Triumphs<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Stults<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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?<br>
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I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items are working.<br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B.? I recently had it painted.? The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).? After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.? All other electrical items are working.? Are those
2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit?? Everything was working before the paint job.<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance for any help,<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
Allan Stults<br>
<br>
Veneta, Oregon<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:16:07 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com><br>
To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"<br>
<triumphs@autox.team.net>, "auprichard uprichard.net"<br>
<auprichard@uprichard.net>, Allan Stults <acstults@hushmail.com><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
Message-ID: <411793801.1844609.1776856567078@mail.yahoo.com><br>
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As you may have seen in a previous post, many (most?) TR3's and TR3A's had a fuse added to this circuit to protect against accident damage to the tail lights causing a short circuit.? This in-line fuse may be in the passenger footwell or under hood near the
voltage regulator.<br>
Dave <br>
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:55:01 PM CDT, Allan Stults <acstults@hushmail.com> wrote:
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The brake lights work as do the turn signals.? All gauges work as does the heater fan.? Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.? I believe there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?? I've replaced them both.? I can find no loose wires under the
dash.? The wiring harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness.? Everything worked until the paint job.<br>
Thanks again all for your info,<br>
Allan<br>
On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY" <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:<br>
Good point.? it wouldn't.? But the information offered was a bit sparce.? Is it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?<br>
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.? It was a dealer upgrade at some point.? Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block for that.<br>
Dave <br>
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote:
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But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?<br>
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?<br>
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Tony Drews<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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?<br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded.<br>
<br>
Regards, Tony<br>
<br>
On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<br>
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Yes ? same circuit.? But I?d also expect the front side lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
From: Triumphs<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Allan Stults<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items are working.<br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B.? I recently had it painted.? The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).? After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.? All other electrical items are working.? Are those
2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit?? Everything was working before the paint job.<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance for any help,<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
Allan Stults<br>
<br>
Veneta, Oregon<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:48:55 +0000<br>
From: auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net><br>
To: "Andrew S. Mace" <zoboherald@aol.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"<br>
<triumphs@autox.team.net>, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] new hubs<br>
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Replace them, shorten them or buy spacers. Spacers are my preferred route as the wheels sit out a little more.<br>
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The interference isn?t with the spacers ? if you don?t deal with the studs issue they will hit the wheels themselves.<br>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2026 12:04 AM<br>
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Subject: Re: [TR] new hubs<br>
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As I recall, various factory service bulletins noted that 5/16" needed to be removed from the studs. --Andy Andrew Mace ZoboHerald@aol.com<<a href="mailto:ZoboHerald@aol.com">mailto:ZoboHerald@aol.com</a>> *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ...
It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph<br>
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As I recall, various factory service bulletins noted that 5/16" needed to be removed from the studs.<br>
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:03:12 PM EDT, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com<mailto:dave@ranteer.com>> wrote:<br>
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Hi. I?m going to order adapters, wire wheels and tires as soon as my project gets close to completion (1958 Triumph TR3A). I purchased these hubs from BPNorthwest, and I am trying to figure out if I need to shorten the wheel studs. They are .938? long.
Will that interfere with the adapters?<br>
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I have asked BP Northwest but they are not very forthcoming with an answer<br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:57:07 +0000<br>
From: auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net><br>
To: Allan Stults <acstults@hushmail.com>, DAVID MASSEY<br>
<dave1massey@cs.com>, Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>,<br>
"triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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Allan ? are you saying the front side lights / running lights and headlights are working normally?<br>
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Are you absolutely sure the dash lights aren?t working? Sometimes it can be hard to see. Park the car in the garage and go out when it is dark to check them.<br>
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From: Allan Stults <acstults@hushmail.com><br>
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2026 6:55 PM<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>; Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net; auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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The brake lights work as do the turn signals. All gauges work as does the heater fan. Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work. I believe there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct? I've replaced them both. I can find no loose wires under the
dash. The wiring harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness. Everything worked until the paint job.<br>
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Thanks again all for your info,<br>
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Allan<br>
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On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY" <dave1massey@cs.com<mailto:dave1massey@cs.com>> wrote:<br>
Good point. it wouldn't. But the information offered was a bit sparce. Is it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?<br>
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I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness. It was a dealer upgrade at some point. Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block for that.<br>
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Dave<br>
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net<mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net>> wrote:<br>
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But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?<br>
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Tony Drews<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded.<br>
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Regards, Tony<br>
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On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<br>
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Yes ? same circuit. But I?d also expect the front side lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.<br>
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Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.<br>
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Allan Stults<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net><br>
Subject: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items are working.<br>
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I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items are working. Are those
2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit? Everything was working before the paint job.<br>
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Thanks in advance for any help,<br>
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Allan Stults<br>
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Veneta, Oregon<br>
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