<div dir="auto">Joe ~</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Haven’t seen your name on the list for quite awhile…. 😀 Cubby door retainers are also a need. The ones currently offered don’t seem to stand up to use…</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Dave</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 11:56 AM JOSEPH ALEXANDER <<a href="mailto:n197tr4@cs.com">n197tr4@cs.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
I am fabricating glove boxes. I did one for my TR3. Missing for 40 years……👿<br>
<br>
Any interest? Direct replacement. US only. Same price as cardboard fiber version.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
<br>
Joe Alexander<br>
4505 Donald Dr<br>
Cedar Falls, IA 50613<br>
Alexander Racing Ent.<br>
Website: Gasketinnovations.com<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:N197tr4@cs.com" target="_blank">N197tr4@cs.com</a><br>
Cell: 319.464.4711<br>
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> 1. Re: LOOK. At. THIS. (Frank Fisher)<br>
> 2. Re: Redoing the whole commission plate process (Frank Fisher)<br>
> 3. Commission plate (John Macartney)<br>
> 4. Re: LOOK. At. THIS. (Paul Dorsey)<br>
> 5. Re: Redoing the whole commission plate process (bill beecher)<br>
> 6. Re: Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 2 (j t)<br>
> 7. Re: Redoing the whole commission plate process (John Macartney)<br>
> 8. Re: Redoing the whole commission plate process (John Macartney)<br>
> 9. Re: Redoing the whole commission plate process [and how<br>
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> Message: 1<br>
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 19:54:57 +0000 (UTC)<br>
> From: Frank Fisher <<a href="mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com" target="_blank">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> To: Alex&Janet Thomson <<a href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net" target="_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>>, Paul Dorsey<br>
> <<a href="mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com" target="_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Cc: Triumph List <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [TR] LOOK. At. THIS.<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1392561942.8386230.1767815697665@mail.yahoo.com" target="_blank">1392561942.8386230.1767815697665@mail.yahoo.com</a>><br>
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> Paul how good to see you emailing again.what did you ever do with your TR?<br>
> and im not sure i like the volvo as modified, but id sure like to drive it one time<br>
> <br>
> Frank Fisher<br>
> <br>
> On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 01:04:42 PM PST, Paul Dorsey <<a href="mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com" target="_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br>
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> On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 8:22?AM Alex&Janet Thomson <<a href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net" target="_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> That reminds me of International Loadstar series trucks in the early sixties. The serial number plate was screwed to the driver's door and sometimes the GVW space was left blank. You may say that wasn't a very secure or permanent location but the serial number was also stamped onto the left frame rail, just below where the steering box was bolted on. Internationals were real component trucks (like most medium duty trucks) with just about everything sourced from outside manufacturers. Unless you had a copy of the line settting ticket, it could be a challenge to figure out what parts to select when doing a major repair.<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> Alex Thomson<br>
> <br>
> '73 TR6 and lots of farm equipment<br>
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> ?<br>
> <br>
> From: Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Greg Lemon<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2026 1:36 AM<br>
> To: Triumph List <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-using a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stories). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.? He reused the original plate.? The original plate is secured with sheet metal screws.? He reused the original screws.<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.? He even brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the screws.? So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up and riveted the plate on.<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> Greg Lemon<br>
> <br>
> TR250<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40?PM dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> <br>
> I get that.? ?IMHO,? a beautiful plate complements a gorgeous restoration.? An original plate,? although original,? does not.<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.? ?No, it's not original,? but it is beautiful?<br>
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> ?<br>
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> ?<br>
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> -------- Original message --------<br>
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> From: Don Hiscock <<a href="mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com" target="_blank">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00)<br>
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> To: DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>><br>
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> Cc: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>, Stephen Oertwig <<a href="mailto:oertwig@mac.com" target="_blank">oertwig@mac.com</a>><br>
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> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original commission number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.? :)<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg</a><br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> Don<br>
> <br>
> Santa Fe<br>
> <br>
> (TR3B TSF202L with original commission?plate)<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15?PM DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> <br>
> I wouldn't worry about the rivets.? The inspecting officer won't have a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.? And having a perfectly done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.<br>
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> ?<br>
> <br>
> Dave<br>
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> ?<br>
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> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig <<a href="mailto:oertwig@mac.com" target="_blank">oertwig@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> ?<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates and body numbers.<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
> Steve<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> <br>
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>> From: dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>><br>
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>> To: bill beecher <<a href="mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com" target="_blank">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>"<br>
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>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this<br>
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>> -------- Original message --------<br>
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>> From: bill beecher <<a href="mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com" target="_blank">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)<br>
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>> To: dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>><br>
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>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping<br>
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>> <br>
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>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.? Of course, the ?3? will be wrong.<br>
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>> Bill<br>
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>> <br>
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>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?? H. Ford<br>
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>>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> ?<br>
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>> Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?<br>
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>> From: Sujit Roy <<a href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> To: Jerry Van Vlack <<a href="mailto:jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com" target="_blank">jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <<a href="mailto:jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com" target="_blank">jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> wrote:<br>
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>>> Hi Sujit,<br>
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>>> <br>
> <br>
>>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the<br>
> <br>
>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color change.<br>
> <br>
>>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You<br>
> <br>
>>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.<br>
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>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running the<br>
> <br>
>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If when<br>
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>>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets<br>
> <br>
>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication of a<br>
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>>> head gasket issue.<br>
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>>> <br>
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>>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one<br>
> <br>
>>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -<br>
> <br>
>>> Made in USA : Automotive<br>
> <br>
>>> <<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3</a>><br>
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>>> <br>
> <br>
>>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts<br>
> <br>
>>> store.<br>
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>>> <br>
> <br>
>>> Hope this helps<br>
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>>> <br>
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>>> JVV<br>
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>>> *From:* Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Sujit Roy<br>
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>>> <<a href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM<br>
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>>> *To:* Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
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>>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations<br>
> <br>
>>> <br>
> <br>
>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my<br>
> <br>
>>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.<br>
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>>> <br>
> <br>
>>> Sujit<br>
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>>> --<br>
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>>> Sujit Roy<br>
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>>> Cupertino, California<br>
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> From: Frank Fisher <<a href="mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com" target="_blank">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> To: Triumph List <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>, Greg Lemon<br>
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> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process<br>
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> on commision plate rivetsas i no longer work, i have no company account and therefore do not get a trade <a href="http://discount.it" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">discount.it</a> looks like its going to be around 10.00 a pair with postage paid to lower 48.will take a couple of weeks to get shiped if you are interseted.if there is enough interest.<br>
> Frank?<br>
> On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 09:44:44 AM PST, Frank Fisher <<a href="mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com" target="_blank">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>> wrote: <br>
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> give me a few days.i did get a run of original rivits made.ill see if i can have a new run made and how much it may cost.they were quite reasonable as i recall<br>
> Frank<br>
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> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 10:48:21 PM PST, Greg Lemon <<a href="mailto:grglmn@gmail.com" target="_blank">grglmn@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br>
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> I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-using a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stories). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.? He reused the original plate.? The original plate is secured with sheet metal screws.? He reused the original screws.<br>
> Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.? He even brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the screws.? So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.<br>
> I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up and riveted the plate on.<br>
> Greg LemonTR250<br>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40?PM dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I get that.? ?IMHO,? a beautiful plate complements a gorgeous restoration.? An original plate,? although original,? does not.<br>
> I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.? ?No, it's not original,? but it is beautiful?<br>
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> -------- Original message --------From: Don Hiscock <<a href="mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com" target="_blank">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>> Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00) To: DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>> Cc: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>, Stephen Oertwig <<a href="mailto:oertwig@mac.com" target="_blank">oertwig@mac.com</a>> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process<br>
> I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original commission number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.? :)<br>
> <a href="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg</a><br>
> DonSanta Fe(TR3B TSF202L with original commission?plate)<br>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15?PM DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I wouldn't worry about the rivets.? The inspecting officer won't have a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.? And having a perfectly done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.<br>
> Dave<br>
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> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig <<a href="mailto:oertwig@mac.com" target="_blank">oertwig@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.<br>
> <br>
> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.<br>
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> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates and body numbers.<br>
> <br>
> Steve<br>
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>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000<br>
>> From: dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>><br>
>> To: bill beecher <<a href="mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com" target="_blank">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>"<br>
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>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping<br>
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>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this<br>
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>> -------- Original message --------<br>
>> From: bill beecher <<a href="mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com" target="_blank">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)<br>
>> To: dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping<br>
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>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.? Of course, the ?3? will be wrong.<br>
>> Bill<br>
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>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?? H. Ford<br>
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>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800<br>
>> From: Sujit Roy <<a href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Jerry Van Vlack <<a href="mailto:jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com" target="_blank">jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations<br>
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>> Thanks, I'll check them out.<br>
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>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <<a href="mailto:jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com" target="_blank">jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>>> Hi Sujit,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the<br>
>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color change.<br>
>>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You<br>
>>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running the<br>
>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If when<br>
>>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets<br>
>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication of a<br>
>>> head gasket issue.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one<br>
>>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -<br>
>>> Made in USA : Automotive<br>
>>> <<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3</a>><br>
>>> <br>
>>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts<br>
>>> store.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Hope this helps<br>
>>> <br>
>>> JVV<br>
>>> ------------------------------<br>
>>> *From:* Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Sujit Roy<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM<br>
>>> *To:* Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
>>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my<br>
>>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Sujit<br>
>>> <br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Sujit Roy<br>
>>> Cupertino, California<br>
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> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 22:30:43 +0000<br>
> From: John Macartney <<a href="mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com" target="_blank">johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a>><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:oertwig@mac.com" target="_blank">oertwig@mac.com</a><br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
> Subject: [TR] Commission plate<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:005BE629-095D-44A6-9C0E-AB6DEB0EAB75@gmx.com" target="_blank">005BE629-095D-44A6-9C0E-AB6DEB0EAB75@gmx.com</a>><br>
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> I?d say that?s definitely ?a Nobby plate?.<br>
> Picture the scene.<br>
> To the background noise of howling compressed air tools, frantic hammering, oaths, a blaring public address system that no one can understand because the announcer in the telephone exchange always sounds as though she?s talking with a clothes peg on her nose - some elderly men are sitting at their workstations, lugubriously stamping blank commission plates. One of them is peering at his block of wood holding his tool steel letter punches.<br>
> ?Wots yer looking for, Nobby??<br>
> ?Can?t find me S and C punches. One o? yow thievin? bastard ?as took it an? didn?t even bleed in? ask me before?and.?<br>
> Brief silence until the PA system is briefly silent.<br>
> ?Any of yers got Nobby?s S an C punches? Cmon, someone?s got it ain?t yer??<br>
> Peerings take place as operatives study their punch racks. Nobby glares at all of them through his fish eye glasses. Heads shake in denial<br>
> ?Cmon, yow lot. Yow knows all me punches got a painted red band on ?em so oi knows ?os arse ter kick when oi cums back from ?avin a Jimmy! Ooze got ?em??<br>
> Another pause.<br>
> ?Nob, yer can borra mine if I stands over yer ter make sure yer don?t pinch em and paint em red later?.<br>
> ?Ta, mate?.<br>
> ?Ere, Nob, afore yer ?it it, check the yeller side is facin yer. Ven you?ll know yerve got it the right way round so some yank can read it.?<br>
> Nobby checks the yellow side is facing him as he hits the punch with his well-worn hammer. Handing the punches back to his colleague, he studies his handiwork.<br>
> ?Yow niver said nuffink about that S and C bein small. So small, oi can ardly read them buggers. ***k me gently, that?ll niver git past Inspection on Final Finish!?<br>
> ?Oo ever said anyfink about bein legible? Numbers on the plate ain?t it and the plate?ll soon be riveted on? Too bloody late to moan about anyfink we do ere bein readable. No buggers ever look at em anyways, so don?t you lose lose no sleep about it Nobby my old son! Just let someone else moan about it later on and in anuvver place.?<br>
> <br>
> "<br>
> .............Fifty or more years later, someone did actually read that plate and ?worried? about it.<br>
> <br>
> Jonmac<br>
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> Message: 4<br>
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:57:01 -0500<br>
> From: Paul Dorsey <<a href="mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com" target="_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: Frank Fisher <<a href="mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com" target="_blank">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "Alex&Janet Thomson" <<a href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net" target="_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>>, Triumph List<br>
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> Subject: Re: [TR] LOOK. At. THIS.<br>
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> <CAFU8DPvstU1bwWqd4TT+_WxbtHnC2musog9t-n0Ud8T=<a href="mailto:qKn-DQ@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">qKn-DQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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> I sold it. i?m kinda sorry that I did. And good to hear from you Frank I am<br>
> no longer able to do anything outside my head injured was getting too bad<br>
> thanks.<br>
> <br>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 2:54?PM Frank Fisher <<a href="mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com" target="_blank">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Paul how good to see you emailing again.<br>
>> what did you ever do with your TR?<br>
>> <br>
>> and im not sure i like the volvo as modified, but id sure like to drive it<br>
>> one time<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Frank Fisher<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 01:04:42 PM PST, Paul Dorsey <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com" target="_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/19ytP2WKwo/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/share/19ytP2WKwo/</a><br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 8:22?AM Alex&Janet Thomson <<a href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net" target="_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> That reminds me of International Loadstar series trucks in the early<br>
>> sixties. The serial number plate was screwed to the driver's door and<br>
>> sometimes the GVW space was left blank. You may say that wasn't a very<br>
>> secure or permanent location but the serial number was also stamped onto<br>
>> the left frame rail, just below where the steering box was bolted on.<br>
>> Internationals were real component trucks (like most medium duty trucks)<br>
>> with just about everything sourced from outside manufacturers. Unless you<br>
>> had a copy of the line settting ticket, it could be a challenge to figure<br>
>> out what parts to select when doing a major repair.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Alex Thomson<br>
>> <br>
>> '73 TR6 and lots of farm equipment<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> *From:* Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> *On Behalf Of *Greg<br>
>> Lemon<br>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 6, 2026 1:36 AM<br>
>> *To:* Triumph List <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or<br>
>> re-using a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about<br>
>> the rivets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is<br>
>> my stories). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.<br>
>> He reused the original plate. The original plate is secured with sheet<br>
>> metal screws. He reused the original screws.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted. He even<br>
>> brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the<br>
>> screws. So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up<br>
>> and riveted the plate on.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Greg Lemon<br>
>> <br>
>> TR250<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40?PM dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> I get that. IMHO, a beautiful plate complements a gorgeous<br>
>> restoration. An original plate, although original, does not.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved. No, it's not original,<br>
>> but it is beautiful<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> -------- Original message --------<br>
>> <br>
>> From: Don Hiscock <<a href="mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com" target="_blank">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> <br>
>> Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00)<br>
>> <br>
>> To: DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>><br>
>> <br>
>> Cc: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>, Stephen Oertwig <<a href="mailto:oertwig@mac.com" target="_blank">oertwig@mac.com</a>><br>
>> <br>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original<br>
>> commission number plate irrespective of condition or attachment. :)<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <a href="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg</a><br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Don<br>
>> <br>
>> Santa Fe<br>
>> <br>
>> (TR3B TSF202L with original commission plate)<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15?PM DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> I wouldn't worry about the rivets. The inspecting officer won't have a<br>
>> clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there. And having a perfectly<br>
>> done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Dave<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:oertwig@mac.com" target="_blank">oertwig@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one<br>
>> so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is<br>
>> a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other<br>
>> 2000s so the plate looks similar.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has<br>
>> numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one<br>
>> stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details.<br>
>> Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe<br>
>> after lunch.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I<br>
>> would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission<br>
>> plates and body numbers.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Steve<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00?PM, <a href="mailto:triumphs-request@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs-request@autox.team.net</a> wrote:<br>
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>>> 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave northrup)<br>
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>>> 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations<br>
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>>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000<br>
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>>> From: dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>><br>
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>>> To: bill beecher <<a href="mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com" target="_blank">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>"<br>
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>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping<br>
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>>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this<br>
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>>> -------- Original message --------<br>
>> <br>
>>> From: bill beecher <<a href="mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com" target="_blank">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>> <br>
>>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)<br>
>> <br>
>>> To: dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>><br>
>> <br>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping<br>
>> <br>
>>> <br>
>> <br>
>>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight. Of course, the<br>
>> ?3? will be wrong.<br>
>> <br>
>>> Bill<br>
>> <br>
>>> <br>
>> <br>
>>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford<br>
>> <br>
>>> <br>
>> <br>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
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>>> ?<br>
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>>> Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?<br>
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>>> From: Sujit Roy <<a href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>>> To: Jerry Van Vlack <<a href="mailto:jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com" target="_blank">jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>>> Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations<br>
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>>> Message-ID:<br>
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>>> <<a href="mailto:CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2BGw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2BGw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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>>> Thanks, I'll check them out.<br>
>> <br>
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>> <br>
>>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <<a href="mailto:jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com" target="_blank">jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> <br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>>> <br>
>> <br>
>>>> Hi Sujit,<br>
>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>> <br>
>>>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the<br>
>> <br>
>>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color<br>
>> change.<br>
>> <br>
>>>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You<br>
>> <br>
>>>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.<br>
>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>> <br>
>>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running<br>
>> the<br>
>> <br>
>>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If<br>
>> when<br>
>> <br>
>>>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets<br>
>> <br>
>>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication<br>
>> of a<br>
>> <br>
>>>> head gasket issue.<br>
>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>> <br>
>>>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one<br>
>> <br>
>>>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -<br>
>> <br>
>>>> Made in USA : Automotive<br>
>> <br>
>>>> <<br>
>> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3</a><br>
>>> <br>
>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>> <br>
>>>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts<br>
>> <br>
>>>> store.<br>
>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>> <br>
>>>> Hope this helps<br>
>> <br>
>>>> <br>
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>>>> JVV<br>
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>>>> *From:* Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Sujit<br>
>> Roy<br>
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>>>> <<a href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM<br>
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>>>> *To:* Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
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>>>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations<br>
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>>>> <br>
>> <br>
>>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my<br>
>> <br>
>>>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.<br>
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>>>> Sujit<br>
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> Message: 5<br>
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 22:31:41 -0600<br>
> From: bill beecher <<a href="mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com" target="_blank">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> To: Macartney John <<a href="mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com" target="_blank">johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a>><br>
> Cc: Oertwig Stephen <<a href="mailto:oertwig@mac.com" target="_blank">oertwig@mac.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:2A686411-203E-459A-AC9D-923D68D8BB5E@yahoo.com" target="_blank">2A686411-203E-459A-AC9D-923D68D8BB5E@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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> John,<br>
> Din?t Sir Black hire some army vets to bang out the commission plates. <br>
> Bill<br>
> <br>
> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford<br>
> <br>
> On Jan 5, 2026, at 8:33?PM, John Macartney <<a href="mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com" target="_blank">johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> ?Nah. We none of us worked that fast! Okay, commission build on a Tuesday but don?t expect anything to appear until eight weeks come Friday. Even then, count yer self lucky ?cos you ain?t given us an opportunity to go on strike.<br>
> Funny sized letters and numbers? Sounds like Nobby with his fisheye glasses and two left boots is back in circulation again.<br>
> <br>
> Jonmac<br>
> <br>
>> On 5 Jan 2026, at 02:04, Stephen Oertwig <<a href="mailto:oertwig@mac.com" target="_blank">oertwig@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.<br>
>> <br>
>> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.<br>
>> <br>
>> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates and body numbers.<br>
>> <br>
>> Steve<br>
>> <br>
>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00?PM, <a href="mailto:triumphs-request@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs-request@autox.team.net</a> wrote:<br>
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>>> Message: 1<br>
>>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000<br>
>>> From: dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>><br>
>>> To: bill beecher <<a href="mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com" target="_blank">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>"<br>
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>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping<br>
>>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f884936@ranteer.com" target="_blank">1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f884936@ranteer.com</a>><br>
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>>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this<br>
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>>> From: bill beecher <<a href="mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com" target="_blank">notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)<br>
>>> To: dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>><br>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping<br>
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>>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight. Of course, the ?3? will be wrong.<br>
>>> Bill<br>
>>> <br>
>>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford<br>
>>> <br>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800<br>
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