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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">on commision plate rivets</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">as i no longer work, i have no company account and therefore do not get a trade discount.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">it looks like its going to be around 10.00 a pair with postage paid to lower 48.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">will take a couple of weeks to get shiped if you are interseted.</div></div>if there is enough interest.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Frank </div><div><br></div>
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On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 09:44:44 AM PST, Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">give me a few days.</div><div dir="ltr">i did get a run of original rivits made.</div><div dir="ltr">ill see if i can have a new run made and how much it may cost.</div><div dir="ltr">they were quite reasonable as i recall</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Frank</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 10:48:21 PM PST, Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671"><div><div>I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-using a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stories). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite. He reused the original plate. The original plate is secured with sheet metal screws. He reused the original screws.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted. He even brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the screws. So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up and riveted the plate on.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Greg Lemon</div><div>TR250</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_quote ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_quote_container"><div id="ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671yqt48949" class="ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671yqt8801919366"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40 PM dave northrup <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_quote">
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<div dir="ltr">I wouldn't worry about the rivets. The inspecting officer won't have a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there. And having a perfectly done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.</div>
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<div>On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:oertwig@mac.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">oertwig@mac.com</a>> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 2000s so the plate
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<div dir="ltr">Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought maybe it was a Friday
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<div dir="ltr">Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates and body numbers.<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -<br clear="none">
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