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On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 09:46:33 AM CDT, William Smith <smithwm845@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Gentlemen, by now most of you have been made aware of the Rimmer/Moss<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">business combination that they euphemistically call a "partnership".<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">This raised a number of questions in my mind, so I sent an email to each of<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">them. I received a response from Rimmer today to which I then replied.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Below, is the thread of the email communications between us.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Bill Smith<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">From: William Smith <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:smithwm845@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">smithwm845@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 10:33 AM<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: Rimmer/Moss Partnership #66210050<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">To: <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:sales@rimmerbros.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sales@rimmerbros.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Dear Andrew, thank you very much for your prompt and enlightening reply. I<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">certainly hope this business combination will ultimately be a positive for<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">both your customers and the employees of both Rimmer and Moss.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">As a longtime customer, I hope and trust that all customers will be be kept<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">informed of all changes resulting from the combination.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Additionally, I certainly hope that the combination will allow the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">continuation, and hopefully expansion of support for the Triumph TR7 and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">TR8 models. Unfortunately, this was not the case when Moss acquired the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">business of Victoria British here in the USA.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks again,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Bill Smith<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 9:27 AM <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:sales@rimmerbros.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sales@rimmerbros.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Hi Bill,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Thank you for your email, there are certainly exciting times ahead!<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> In response to your questions, please bear with us as it is very early<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> days and for the time being it's business as usual. I am sure that any<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> changes desired by the new owners will be communicated to customers as they<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> are implemented.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 1) Please continue to use your preferred company, we are still operating<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> as individual businesses, although the shareholders have changed.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 2) Currently we retain all our own individual catalogs and also part<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> numbers. Combining them, if that is what is deemed desirable, will be a<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> mammoth undertaking and we could expect to take some considerable time.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 3) There is already a crossover of products in inventory ranges where we<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> have either been selling to each other or buying from the same source for<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> years. At this early stage, we don't yet know if the longer term will lead<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> to each company offering some or all the other company's products,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> certainly that would require the catalog work above to be done not to<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> mention inventory/warehouse expansion.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 4) For now returns and exchanges will work just as they do currently, as<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> we are still operating as individual businesses. So if you purchased from<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Moss deal with Moss for the return and the same with product sourced from<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Rimmer Bros. In time we may be able to facilitate returns differently, but<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> that is a way off at this stage.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 5) There is no change to shipping times and costs at present, in time if<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> catalogs and product ranges end up being combined plus the necessary<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> warehouse changes to allow them to hold extra inventory, there may be, but<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> at this stage it's too early to give a definitive answer.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 6) That is essentially the same question as 3, so please see above for the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> answer.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 7) Bill and Graham Rimmer as sole owners of Rimmer Bros sold their entire<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> company to Radial Equity Partners and at the same time the owners of Moss<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Motors did the same. Radial Equity partners already have a number of<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Automotive companies such as Coker Tire, Corvette Central, Multi Parts<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> (MPS), Ohio Transmission Corporation and Zip Corvette which they operate as<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> separate businesses each with their individual websites and pricing.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I hope that answers your questions for now, we will all know more this<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> time next year.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Kind regards<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Andrew<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> *Rimmer Bros*<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Telephone: 01522 568000<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Email: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:sales@rimmerbros.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sales@rimmerbros.com</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Website: www.rimmerbros.com <<a shape="rect" href="https://rimmerbros.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://rimmerbros.com/</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Address: Triumph House, Sleaford Road, Bracebridge Heath, Lincoln, LN4 2NA<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a shape="rect" href="https://twitter.com/rimmerbros" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/rimmerbros</a>> <<a shape="rect" href="https://www.facebook.com/Rimmerbros" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/Rimmerbros</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a shape="rect" href="https://www.youtube.com/@RimmerBrosTV/featured" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@RimmerBrosTV/featured</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a shape="rect" href="https://www.instagram.com/rimmerbros/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/rimmerbros/</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> On 17 April 2024 21:07 UTC, WILLIAM SMITH <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:smithwm845@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">smithwm845@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Ok, gentlemen and gentlewomen, I received the emails from both your<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> companies announcing the partnership between your organizations. However,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> this leaves a number of questions in my mind (and I'm sure many other<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> customers minds):<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 1. If I want to place an order, with whom should I place that order?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 2. Will your catalogs be combined?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 3. Will each of you carry all of the other company's products?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 4. How will returns and exchanges work?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 5. What will be the impact on shipping times and costs (e.g., will there<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> be any savings on shipping cost or times if, say a Rimmer product is<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> purchased through Moss)?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 6. will we be able to purchase a Rimmer inventory item through Moss, and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> vice-versa?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 7. What is the specific nature of your "partnership"?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> - Is it a legal partnership?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> - Is it an acquisition by one of you of the other?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> - Is it merely a selling arrangement?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> !!The bottom line is: Your customers need more information details on how<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> this partnership will affect them!!<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Best wishes from a long-time customer of both your orgnizations,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> William (Bill) Smith<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">--<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Forwarded via the TR7/8 mailing list. Please send administrative requests<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">to the majordomo at <a shape="rect" href="mailto:tr8-request@mercury.lcs.mit.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tr8-request@mercury.lcs.mit.edu</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
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