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I’m surprised we have not seen a law requiring EVs to be preceded on their journey by a man with a red flag…
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<blockquote type="cite">On Jul 23, 2023, at 07:45, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">All this EV bashing reminds me of the picture of the Model T being pulled out of the mud but a farmer and a team of horses and the farmer thinking all along "These things will never catch on."</div>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Anyone who expects a new technology to catch on with a straight line growth curve is not being realistic. There are many supply chain and infrastructure issues that need to be worked out and this is a chicken/egg relationship
between these issues and EV acceptance. Heck, in the early days of gas-powered cars drivers had to stop at the local dry-goods store and buy "cleaning solvent" to power their cars.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">EV's have many fewer moving parts and hence are more reliable and, except for the battery, are less expensive to build. And battery technology is evolving as we speak.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">But back to the topic at hand. This new "Triumph" resembles the TR3 in the same manner that a Picasso painting resembles reality. Yeah, some of the elements are there but they are not coherent. The styling does not inspire
me, but that is just my opinion, for what it's worth.<br>
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<div>On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:07:28 PM CDT, Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com> wrote:
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<div>Hmmm. Not exactly “no go”, or “EVs are piling up on dealer lots.”<br clear="none">
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<blockquote type="cite">On Jul 22, 2023, at 18:48, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<p>EV sales have peaked</p>
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<b>To:</b> dave northrup<br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Future Triumph?</font>
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<div>Really? What’s your source for that little nugget?
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<p class="ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal">Despite what the Biden administration wants, electric cars are a no go.</p>
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<p class="ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal">EVs are piling up on dealer lots as consumers are correctly rejecting them</p>
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<p class="ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 22, 2023 11:15 AM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Mark Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com><br clear="none">
<b>Cc:</b> Listers <triumphs@autox.team.net><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Future Triumph?</p>
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<p class="ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal">Great to see & thanks for sharing the concept's evolution from Makkina with BMW.</p>
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<p class="ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal">On Sat, Jul 22, 2023, 11:13 AM Mark Bradakis <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:mark@bradakis.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mark@bradakis.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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tonics and squint just right, you might see the TR2/3 influence. But <br clear="none">
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