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<p>-----Original Message-----<br>From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com><br>Sent: Jul 23, 2023 6:27 PM<br>To: Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com><br>Cc: Listers <triumphs@autox.team.net><br>Subject: Re: [TR] Future Triumph?</p>
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<div dir="auto">I’m thinking, as others have said, that EV’s are still in the relative infancy. The ‘boom days’ for EV’s will come, IMHO, when a significant breakthrough in battery technology occurs. That is, when battery science allows for rapid recharge, long life and when cheap(er) battery-pack replacements are possible. The company that develops THAT breakthrough battery tech, will revolutionize not only EV’s but many other battery-dependent devices….</div>
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<div dir="auto">I’m surprised we have not seen a law requiring EVs to be preceded on their journey by a man with a red flag…
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<blockquote>On Jul 23, 2023, at 07:45, DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">dave1massey@cs.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote>
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">All this EV bashing reminds me of the picture of the Model T being pulled out of the mud but a farmer and a team of horses and the farmer thinking all along "These things will never catch on."</div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Anyone who expects a new technology to catch on with a straight line growth curve is not being realistic.  There are many supply chain and infrastructure issues that need to be worked out and this is a chicken/egg relationship between these issues and EV acceptance.  Heck, in the early days of gas-powered cars drivers had to stop at the local dry-goods store and buy "cleaning solvent" to power their cars.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">But back to the topic at hand.  This new "Triumph" resembles the TR3 in the same manner that a Picasso painting resembles reality. Yeah, some of the elements are there but they are not coherent.  The styling does not inspire me, but that is just my opinion, for what it's worth.</div>
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<p style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;">First off, had a power outage yesterday that had the servers off the air <br clear="none">for a few hours.  All is back again, bits should be flowing.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">And what do you make of this concept car?  If you drink enough gin and <br clear="none">tonics and squint just right, you might see the TR2/3 influence.  But <br clear="none">those wheels!<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-12298467/Triumph-TR25-electric-concept-unveiled-iconic-British-brand-returning.html?ico=mol_desktop_moneycars" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" shape="rect">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-12298467/Triumph-TR25-electric-concept-unveiled-iconic-British-brand-returning.html?ico=mol_desktop_moneycars</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">mjb.<br clear="none">** <a style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" shape="rect"> triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Donate: <a style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" shape="rect"> http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear="none">Archive: <a style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" shape="rect"> http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a>  <a style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" shape="rect"> http://www.team.net/archive</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph66@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" shape="rect"> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph66@gmail.com</a></p>
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