<div dir="auto">I’m thinking, as others have said, that EV’s are still in the relative infancy. The ‘boom days’ for EV’s will come, IMHO, when a significant breakthrough in battery technology occurs. That is, when battery science allows for rapid recharge, long life and when cheap(er) battery-pack replacements are possible. The company that develops THAT breakthrough battery tech, will revolutionize not only EV’s but many other battery-dependent devices….</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Dave</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 5:18 PM Michael Marr <<a href="mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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<b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sent:</b> Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:01:34 PM<br clear="none">
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