<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp8eb92d6ayahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">When I was in college I worked at a plating shop. I thought the best combination was a strong steel base with chromium plating. Since the bumper is supposed to absorb damage I think that is better than using Stainless steel which is weaker, I've got a 3 body in my back lot which has been sitting for 20 years and the bumpers are perfect. They used stainless in passengeer train construction since the 1930's, the biggest problem was that it was hard to spot weld.</div><div class="ydp8eb92d6asignature">Joe Mato<div>62 Wood Road</div><div>Redding, CT 06896</div><div>917 232 1555</div></div></div>
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On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 03:02:10 PM EDT, triumphs-request@autox.team.net <triumphs-request@autox.team.net> wrote:
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Re: Stainless Steel (stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 2. Re: Skin deep stainless steel (stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 3. Re: Stainless Steel (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 4. Re: Skin deep stainless steel (Patrick Baize)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 5. Re: Stainless Steel (Patrick Baize)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 6. Re: Stainless Steel (Stan Foster)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 7. Re: Stainless Steel (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 8. Re: Stainless Steel (DAVID MASSEY)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 9. Re: Stainless Steel (DAVID MASSEY)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 10. Re: Stainless Steel (TeriAnn J. Wakeman)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 11. Re: Stainless Steel (Don Hiscock)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 13 May 2023 19:08:38 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: <<a href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "'Alex Levy'" <<a href="mailto:brserv@aol.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">brserv@aol.com</a>>, <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <000001d98600$9f38ebd0$ddaac370$@triumphstagclub.org><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sorry Alex,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You may want to do some fact checking. There is no grade for "solid stainless steel".<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over mild steel technology exists a of<br></div><div dir="ltr">yet. Plating is electrolysis, and the mild steel will only attract specific molecules similar to<br></div><div dir="ltr">mild steel. You can copper plate mild steel because there are similar molecules, when then allows<br></div><div dir="ltr">either chromium to be plated or for triple plate, nickel plate and then chromium.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Stainless steel comes in different grades, some grades of stainless steel are indeed magnetic<br></div><div dir="ltr">depending on the amount of ferric used in the recipe. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Stainless comes in dozens of different types and chemical compositions selected for its application<br></div><div dir="ltr">and environment use. Just because it is stainless steel does not mean it is a grade or composition<br></div><div dir="ltr">that isn't magnetic or completely corrosion resistant.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unless the specific grade of stainless is specified for the product manufacture, any grade of<br></div><div dir="ltr">stainless steel might be used, and manufacturers might advertise stainless steel and not specify<br></div><div dir="ltr">what type. Without specifying what type, you have no idea what corrosion properties to expect.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Alex Levy<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 7:20 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I have come across several items that were supposed to be solid stainless steel, but they were<br></div><div dir="ltr">regular steel plated with stainless steel. The last one was my Chinese replacement cooking grill for<br></div><div dir="ltr">my propane grill. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Also, many grades of steel are mildly to strongly magnetic. Beware. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Alex<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br></div><div dir="ltr">** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 13 May 2023 19:15:07 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: <<a href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" <<a href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>>, "'Triumph List'"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Skin deep stainless steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <000501d98601$86f5df50$94e19df0$@triumphstagclub.org><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">TeriAnn,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Well there is no stainless steel plating onto other metal process. Stainless steel is forged in furnaces using different compositions of elements to make different grades of stainless steel, some which are magnetic.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I will guess someone did a cheap chrome plating job, or a quick polish job.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 5:37 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Triumph List <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Skin deep stainless steel<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Around 2008 or so I purchased stainless steel front & rear bumpers off or e-bay. Looked good fit OK. Last winter my TR was in an open carport with the front towards prevailing winds. And my front bumper rusted. I hit it with steel wool today and that "stainless steel" came off in flakes with a steel bumper underneath. I had no idea that you could plate steel with a thin layer of stainless. I didn't get what I paid for. Lasted fine in Arizona but couldn't handle a pacific northwest winter.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I guess the next SS bumper will need to be checked with a magnet. Anyone have a reliable source for real stainless steel TR3A bumpers?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">TeriAnn<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230513/d10aadef/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230513/d10aadef/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 3<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 13 May 2023 18:28:39 -0700<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <<a href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:e4ba1f4c-f864-baad-6327-655825fa9474@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">e4ba1f4c-f864-baad-6327-655825fa9474@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 5/13/23 6:08 PM, <a href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Sorry Alex,<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> You may want to do some fact checking. There is no grade for "solid stainless steel".<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over mild steel technology exists a of<br></div><div dir="ltr">> yet.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">"Welcome to PTT BUMPERS. We are a specialist manufacturing in stainless <br></div><div dir="ltr">steel bumpers for classic car. Our bumper are made of 100% stainless <br></div><div dir="ltr">steel grade 304 , thickness 1.5mm and hand polished. The gloss of bumper <br></div><div dir="ltr">is shiny like mirror polish and the backside of bumper are cover by 3 <br></div><div dir="ltr">painted layers to protect the bumper from the bad weather and chemicals <br></div><div dir="ltr">elements."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">They plate them somehow.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 4<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 13 May 2023 21:01:43 -0500<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Patrick Baize <<a href="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pbaize@satx.rr.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Skin deep stainless steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4da8108e-2e14-5c9e-a442-fd510963bf0c@satx.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">4da8108e-2e14-5c9e-a442-fd510963bf0c@satx.rr.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi All<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">off topic, but sort of same topic. ? The new switch plates, faucets , <br></div><div dir="ltr">sink drains etc, style is oiled bronze. ? Previously it was a nickle <br></div><div dir="ltr">type finish.? Our entire house is oiled bronze. When I re-modeled our <br></div><div dir="ltr">kitchen, I bought bronze drains.? About a month later I noticed a chip <br></div><div dir="ltr">in one of the drains.? Today they are both nickle finish , the power <br></div><div dir="ltr">coating came off.? Got to be careful of what you buy.? Nickle finish <br></div><div dir="ltr">went out of style, so the manufacturer powder coated what they had left.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Patrick<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 5/13/2023 8:15 PM, <a href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> TeriAnn,<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Well there is no stainless steel plating onto other metal process.? <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Stainless steel is forged in furnaces using different compositions of <br></div><div dir="ltr">> elements to make different grades of stainless steel, some which are <br></div><div dir="ltr">> magnetic.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I will guess someone did a cheap chrome plating job, or a quick polish <br></div><div dir="ltr">> job.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *From:* Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> *On Behalf Of <br></div><div dir="ltr">> *TeriAnn J. Wakeman<br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2023 5:37 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">> *To:* Triumph List <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* [TR] Skin deep stainless steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Around 2008 or so I purchased stainless steel front & rear bumpers off <br></div><div dir="ltr">> or e-bay. Looked good fit OK. Last winter my TR was in an open carport <br></div><div dir="ltr">> with the front towards prevailing winds. And my front bumper rusted. I <br></div><div dir="ltr">> hit it with steel wool today and that "stainless steel" came off in <br></div><div dir="ltr">> flakes with a steel bumper underneath. I had no idea that you could <br></div><div dir="ltr">> plate steel with a thin layer of stainless. I didn't get what I paid <br></div><div dir="ltr">> for. Lasted fine in Arizona but couldn't handle a pacific northwest <br></div><div dir="ltr">> winter.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I guess the next SS bumper will need to be checked with a magnet. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Anyone have a reliable source for real stainless steel TR3A bumpers?<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> TeriAnn<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> **triumphs@autox.team.net **<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pbaize@satx.rr.com<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div dir="ltr">This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br></div><div dir="ltr">www.avast.com<br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230513/b10e992e/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230513/b10e992e/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 5<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 13 May 2023 21:37:20 -0500<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Patrick Baize <<a href="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pbaize@satx.rr.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:5a3280d7-92aa-bf4b-da58-56a35acfa971@satx.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">5a3280d7-92aa-bf4b-da58-56a35acfa971@satx.rr.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">ask what country of manufacture<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 5/13/2023 8:28 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> On 5/13/23 6:08 PM, <a href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Sorry Alex,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> You may want to do some fact checking.? There is no grade for "solid <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> stainless steel".<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> mild steel technology exists a of<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> yet.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> "Welcome to PTT BUMPERS. We are a specialist manufacturing in <br></div><div dir="ltr">> stainless steel bumpers for classic car. Our bumper are made of 100% <br></div><div dir="ltr">> stainless steel grade 304 , thickness 1.5mm and hand polished. The <br></div><div dir="ltr">> gloss of bumper is shiny like mirror polish and the backside of bumper <br></div><div dir="ltr">> are cover by 3 painted layers to protect the bumper from the bad <br></div><div dir="ltr">> weather and chemicals elements."<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> They plate them somehow.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage: <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pbaize@satx.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pbaize@satx.rr.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div dir="ltr">This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br></div><div dir="ltr">www.avast.com<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 6<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 02:39:09 +0000<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Stan Foster <<a href="mailto:stan@redtr6.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stan@redtr6.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <<a href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>>,<br></div><div dir="ltr"> "triumphs@autox.team.net" <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:MN2PR05MB657582CCF10FBBC88B8815ECFE7B9@MN2PR05MB6575.namprd05.prod.outlook.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">MN2PR05MB657582CCF10FBBC88B8815ECFE7B9@MN2PR05MB6575.namprd05.prod.outlook.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">ChatGPT confirms:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Yes, it is possible to plate steel with stainless steel. This process is known as electroplating or galvanization and involves depositing a thin layer of stainless steel onto the surface of the steel through an electrolytic process.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">In this process, the steel is first cleaned and then placed in an electrolytic bath with a solution containing the ions of the stainless steel. An electric current is then passed through the solution, causing the ions to be deposited onto the surface of the steel.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The resulting plated steel will have the corrosion-resistant properties of stainless steel, which can be beneficial for applications where the steel will be exposed to harsh environments or corrosive substances.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 9:29 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 5/13/23 6:08 PM, <a href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Sorry Alex,<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> You may want to do some fact checking. There is no grade for "solid stainless steel".<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over <br></div><div dir="ltr">> mild steel technology exists a of yet.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">"Welcome to PTT BUMPERS. We are a specialist manufacturing in stainless steel bumpers for classic car. Our bumper are made of 100% stainless steel grade 304 , thickness 1.5mm and hand polished. The gloss of bumper is shiny like mirror polish and the backside of bumper are cover by 3 painted layers to protect the bumper from the bad weather and chemicals elements."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">They plate them somehow.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stan@redtr6.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stan@redtr6.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 7<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 13 May 2023 21:05:58 -0700<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <<a href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:8ba60579-625c-feea-5126-a34e888c6fa1@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">8ba60579-625c-feea-5126-a34e888c6fa1@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 5/13/23 7:37 PM, Patrick Baize wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ask what country of manufacture<br></div><div dir="ltr">For the PTT stainless coated bumper, Vietnam.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On 5/13/2023 8:28 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> On 5/13/23 6:08 PM, <a href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Sorry Alex,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> You may want to do some fact checking.? There is no grade for "solid <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> stainless steel".<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> mild steel technology exists a of<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> yet.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> "Welcome to PTT BUMPERS. We are a specialist manufacturing in <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> stainless steel bumpers for classic car. Our bumper are made of 100% <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> stainless steel grade 304 , thickness 1.5mm and hand polished. The <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> gloss of bumper is shiny like mirror polish and the backside of <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> bumper are cover by 3 painted layers to protect the bumper from the <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> bad weather and chemicals elements."<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> They plate them somehow.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> ** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Unsubscribe/Manage: <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pbaize@satx.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pbaize@satx.rr.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Book - The Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and <br></div><div dir="ltr">Canada <<a href="http://overlandtravel.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://overlandtravel.us</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">2 years to write and 38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*Because the world beckons and life waits for no one*<br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230513/83550705/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230513/83550705/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 8<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 12:24:21 +0000 (UTC)<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a>>, "brserv@aol.com"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:brserv@aol.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">brserv@aol.com</a>>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20407903.757593.1684067061088@mail.yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">20407903.757593.1684067061088@mail.yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> McMaster-Carr has a nice concise overview primer on various materials, including Stainless Steel.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.mcmaster.com/products/about-stainless-steel/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.mcmaster.com/products/about-stainless-steel/</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Dave <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">-----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: <a href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: 'Alex Levy' <<a href="mailto:brserv@aol.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">brserv@aol.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Sat, May 13, 2023 8:08 pm<br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sorry Alex,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You may want to do some fact checking.? There is no grade for "solid stainless steel".<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over mild steel technology exists a of<br></div><div dir="ltr">yet.? Plating is electrolysis, and the mild steel will only attract specific molecules similar to<br></div><div dir="ltr">mild steel.? You can copper plate mild steel because there are similar molecules, when then allows<br></div><div dir="ltr">either chromium to be plated or for triple plate, nickel plate and then chromium.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Stainless steel comes in different grades, some grades of stainless steel are indeed magnetic<br></div><div dir="ltr">depending on the amount of ferric used in the recipe.? <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Stainless comes in dozens of different types and chemical compositions selected for its application<br></div><div dir="ltr">and environment use.? Just because it is stainless steel does not mean it is a grade or composition<br></div><div dir="ltr">that isn't magnetic or completely corrosion resistant.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unless the specific grade of stainless is specified for the product manufacture, any grade of<br></div><div dir="ltr">stainless steel might be used, and manufacturers might advertise stainless steel and not specify<br></div><div dir="ltr">what type.? Without specifying what type, you have no idea what corrosion properties to expect.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Alex Levy<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 7:20 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I have come across several items that were supposed to be solid stainless steel, but they were<br></div><div dir="ltr">regular steel plated with stainless steel. The last one was my Chinese replacement cooking grill for<br></div><div dir="ltr">my propane grill. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Also, many grades of steel are mildly to strongly magnetic. Beware. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Alex<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br></div><div dir="ltr">** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230514/75d826c9/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230514/75d826c9/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 9<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 12:35:25 +0000 (UTC)<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "tjwakeman@gmail.com" <<a href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>>,<br></div><div dir="ltr"> "triumphs@autox.team.net" <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1905437117.1969833.1684067725142@mail.yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">1905437117.1969833.1684067725142@mail.yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> They make stainless pots and pans with aluminum inserts.? These are forged together using various processes.? It is possible that they are forging flat plates of stainless and mild steel and then punching and forming bumpers out of that sandwich.? Stainless steel has a reputation of being difficult to machine and this may explain why they would go to the trouble of forging a thin layer or stainless on a more easily machinable soft steel.<br></div><div dir="ltr">On the other hand, they say "100% stainless steel grade 304 , thickness 1.5mm"?? If that were the case why paint the inside with three coats of paint?? Me thinks they are lying.<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Dave <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">-----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: TeriAnn J. Wakeman <<a href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Sat, May 13, 2023 8:28 pm<br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 5/13/23 6:08 PM, <a href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Sorry Alex,<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> You may want to do some fact checking.? There is no grade for "solid stainless steel".<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over mild steel technology exists a of<br></div><div dir="ltr">> yet.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">"Welcome to PTT BUMPERS. We are a specialist manufacturing in stainless <br></div><div dir="ltr">steel bumpers for classic car. Our bumper are made of 100% stainless <br></div><div dir="ltr">steel grade 304 , thickness 1.5mm and hand polished. The gloss of bumper <br></div><div dir="ltr">is shiny like mirror polish and the backside of bumper are cover by 3 <br></div><div dir="ltr">painted layers to protect the bumper from the bad weather and chemicals <br></div><div dir="ltr">elements."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">They plate them somehow.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230514/43559850/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230514/43559850/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 10<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 06:17:12 -0700<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <<a href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:c7256e6d-585d-3dc5-2973-f8d7d427eddb@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">c7256e6d-585d-3dc5-2973-f8d7d427eddb@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">What is flaking off my bumper as I go over the rust with steel wool is <br></div><div dir="ltr">about the same thickness as chrome plating.? think the question to ask a <br></div><div dir="ltr">manufacturer is if the bumper is 100% stainless steel or is it plated on <br></div><div dir="ltr">the front. And to look at the back to see if it is painted or unpolished <br></div><div dir="ltr">steel.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">TeriAnn<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 5/14/23 5:35 AM, DAVID MASSEY wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> They make stainless pots and pans with aluminum inserts.? These are <br></div><div dir="ltr">> forged together using various processes.? It is possible that they are <br></div><div dir="ltr">> forging flat plates of stainless and mild steel and then punching and <br></div><div dir="ltr">> forming bumpers out of that sandwich.? Stainless steel has a <br></div><div dir="ltr">> reputation of being difficult to machine and this may explain why they <br></div><div dir="ltr">> would go to the trouble of forging a thin layer or stainless on a more <br></div><div dir="ltr">> easily machinable soft steel.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On the other hand, they say "100% stainless steel grade 304 , <br></div><div dir="ltr">> thickness 1.5mm"?? If that were the case why paint the inside with <br></div><div dir="ltr">> three coats of paint?? Me thinks they are lying.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Dave<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> -----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">> From: TeriAnn J. Wakeman <<a href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Sent: Sat, May 13, 2023 8:28 pm<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On 5/13/23 6:08 PM, <a href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> > Sorry Alex,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ><br></div><div dir="ltr">> > You may want to do some fact checking.? There is no grade for "solid <br></div><div dir="ltr">> stainless steel".<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ><br></div><div dir="ltr">> > I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over <br></div><div dir="ltr">> mild steel technology exists a of<br></div><div dir="ltr">> > yet.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> "Welcome to PTT BUMPERS. We are a specialist manufacturing in stainless<br></div><div dir="ltr">> steel bumpers for classic car. Our bumper are made of 100% stainless<br></div><div dir="ltr">> steel grade 304 , thickness 1.5mm and hand polished. The gloss of bumper<br></div><div dir="ltr">> is shiny like mirror polish and the backside of bumper are cover by 3<br></div><div dir="ltr">> painted layers to protect the bumper from the bad weather and chemicals<br></div><div dir="ltr">> elements."<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> They plate them somehow.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage: <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Book - The Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and <br></div><div dir="ltr">Canada <<a href="http://overlandtravel.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://overlandtravel.us</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">2 years to write and 38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*Because the world beckons and life waits for no one*<br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230514/966433ca/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230514/966433ca/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 11<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 09:04:04 -0500<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Don Hiscock <<a href="mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <<a href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <CAPK7CFAALbgoZmf5-YL=MhH89iEKmCCdvamveDeSuOzhzX8-uQ@mail.gmail.com><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Years ago (perhaps still) there was some video on YouTube showing one of<br></div><div dir="ltr">the Vietnamese workshops making stainless steel bumpers. It was a bunch of<br></div><div dir="ltr">Geppettos banging them out by hand in a courtyard more than a factory with<br></div><div dir="ltr">machine tooling.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">My guess for why the back side is heavily painted is to hide the<br></div><div dir="ltr">handworking marks that are polished out of the front side.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">TeriAnn, your 2008 bumpers sound like chrome plated carbon steel, not<br></div><div dir="ltr">polished stainless. The idea of some amalgam of stainless and carbon<br></div><div dir="ltr">steels to save money doesn't square with the cottage/craft industry that<br></div><div dir="ltr">makes these, AFAIK.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 8:50?AM TeriAnn J. Wakeman <<a href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> What is flaking off my bumper as I go over the rust with steel wool is<br></div><div dir="ltr">> about the same thickness as chrome plating. think the question to ask a<br></div><div dir="ltr">> manufacturer is if the bumper is 100% stainless steel or is it plated on<br></div><div dir="ltr">> the front. And to look at the back to see if it is painted or unpolished<br></div><div dir="ltr">> steel.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> TeriAnn<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On 5/14/23 5:35 AM, DAVID MASSEY wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> They make stainless pots and pans with aluminum inserts. These are forged<br></div><div dir="ltr">> together using various processes. It is possible that they are forging<br></div><div dir="ltr">> flat plates of stainless and mild steel and then punching and forming<br></div><div dir="ltr">> bumpers out of that sandwich. Stainless steel has a reputation of being<br></div><div dir="ltr">> difficult to machine and this may explain why they would go to the trouble<br></div><div dir="ltr">> of forging a thin layer or stainless on a more easily machinable soft steel.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On the other hand, they say "100% stainless steel grade 304 , thickness<br></div><div dir="ltr">> 1.5mm" If that were the case why paint the inside with three coats of<br></div><div dir="ltr">> paint? Me thinks they are lying.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Dave<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> -----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">> From: TeriAnn J. Wakeman <<a href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Sent: Sat, May 13, 2023 8:28 pm<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On 5/13/23 6:08 PM, <a href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> > Sorry Alex,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ><br></div><div dir="ltr">> > You may want to do some fact checking. There is no grade for "solid<br></div><div dir="ltr">> stainless steel".<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ><br></div><div dir="ltr">> > I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over mild<br></div><div dir="ltr">> steel technology exists a of<br></div><div dir="ltr">> > yet.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> "Welcome to PTT BUMPERS. We are a specialist manufacturing in stainless<br></div><div dir="ltr">> steel bumpers for classic car. Our bumper are made of 100% stainless<br></div><div dir="ltr">> steel grade 304 , thickness 1.5mm and hand polished. The gloss of bumper<br></div><div dir="ltr">> is shiny like mirror polish and the backside of bumper are cover by 3<br></div><div dir="ltr">> painted layers to protect the bumper from the bad weather and chemicals<br></div><div dir="ltr">> elements."<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> They plate them somehow.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> --<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Book - The Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Canada <<a href="http://overlandtravel.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://overlandtravel.us</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> 2 years to write and 38 years of travel and camping to learn what to write<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> *Because the world beckons and life waits for no one*<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230514/a8b2b282/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20230514/a8b2b282/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Digest Footer<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Triumphs mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">End of Triumphs Digest, Vol 16, Issue 76<br></div><div dir="ltr">****************************************<br></div></div>
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