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<p>Harrington the the dist for the Vietnam company. <br>
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href="https://groupharrington.com/brand/triumph/"
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<p>(copy of one my my own emails back in 2021)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"
lang="EN-GB">Please note that<span
class="m5334857668863273755yiv1443755674ecxapple-converted-space"> </span><span
class="m5334857668863273755yiv1443755674ecxapple-style-span">while
the shape of the bumpers is the same for</span><span
class="m5334857668863273755yiv1443755674ecxapple-converted-space"> </span><span
class="m5334857668863273755yiv1443755674ecxapple-style-span"><u>Spitfire
M4, GT6 MK3 and1500</u>, there are two different types of
number plate light holes in the rear bumper.</span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
class="m5334857668863273755yiv1443755674ecxapple-style-span"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"
lang="EN-GB"> The original rear bumper we use as pattern for
reproduction has two bigger holes and two smaller holes for
mounting one big license plate light frame. These holes are
correct for</span></span><span
class="m5334857668863273755yiv1443755674ecxapple-converted-space"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"
lang="EN-GB"> </span></span><span
class="m5334857668863273755yiv1443755674ecxapple-style-span"><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"
lang="EN-GB">GT6 MK3, Spitfire Mk4 and early 1500 models</span></u></span><span
class="m5334857668863273755yiv1443755674ecxapple-style-span"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"
lang="EN-GB">. Later 1500 models did, however, use two
separate lights and as such the holes are different – I am
afraid that we do not supply the rear bumper with these holes,
but should your car really be a later 1500 model I can offer
you to not pre-drill the holes so you can make them yourself.
You can find a photo at the bottom of this email and confirm
which type you require.</span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> We
can have the bumpers ready for shipping within 15-20 working
days after receipt of payment and confirmation. Shipping is with
airfreight which only takes 3-4 days straight to your door.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> With
regards to payment - we accept Paypal, Bank transfer. In case
you decide to order, please let me know which method you prefer,
I will then send you more details.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Should
you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to contact me.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Best
Regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Thao</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><a
href="https://groupharrington.com/"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";text-decoration:none"><img
id="Picture_x0020_10"
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#274E13">Harrington
Group Ltd</span><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#274E13"><br>
Nguyen Huong Thao (Ms.)</span></i></b><span
style="font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#222222"></span><br>
<b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#274E13">Sales &
Marketing Executive</span></i></b><span
style="font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#222222"></span><br>
<b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#222222">_________________________</span></i></b><span
style="font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#222222"></span><br>
<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#274E13">T</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#222222"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:black">+44</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#222222;background:white">
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:black">121 288 1250<br>
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Antiqua","serif";color:#274E13">E </span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#222222"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:black"><a
href="mailto:info@groupharrington.com"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">info@groupharrington.com</a></span><span
style="font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#222222"></span><br>
<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#274E13">W</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:#222222"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:black">groupharrington.com</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua","serif";color:black"><br>
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<p>ptegler<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/2023 6:02 PM, TeriAnn J.
Wakeman wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:1a61bdea-f576-62e6-64df-f19e5ce626c2@gmail.com">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Regardless of what is deemed possible
and what is not.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">1. I purchased a set of bumpers off
of e-bay labeled as stainless steel. The bumper has a slightly
different colour cast than a chrome shine. This winter it grew a
lot of rust spots. As I remember the company was based in
Mexico. The purchase was about 14ish years ago, the rust is from
this past winter.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">2. I hit it with steel wool and saw
bright metal flakes about the thickness I associate with chrome
flakes.</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">3. A google search for stainless
steel bumpers yielded A Vietnam company advertising stainless
steel bumpers. 1.5mm thick stainless steel, and three layers of
paint on the back side to protect it from the weather.</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">That's all I know. If it is
impossible, how do they do it or are they lying about their
process and products. I don't care about the reasons they could
not make the products they sell. These bumpers looked good for
about 10 years longer than new chrome bumpers I previously
purchased and as I mentioned the colour cast was different from
chrome. I didn't complete the rebuild of my car before I could
see rust on the new chrome bumpers I had purchased.<br>
</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">TeriAnn<br>
</div>
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</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/23 12:40 PM, <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a>
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:000001d9869c$039aff50$0ad0fdf0$@triumphstagclub.org">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Wooo HOOOO, the ChatGPT fact checker!!
Go right ahead and believe the output of ChatGPT Ai all you want, but nobody should consider
ChatGPT AI a fact checker (see its disclaimer) by any means.
If you really want to go there, definitely make sure your doctor uses ChatGPT Ai to write your
prescription and guide the cancer surgeon to cure you on your next doctor visit too. (Read the
ChatGPT disclaimers)
The Science:
Although stainless steel plating "may be possible", it is "not economically feasible" nor "complete
properties transfer", BECAUSE the technology has not been yet developed to take something like mild
steel or pot metal and plate it in "stainless" BECAUSE the molecular transfer - the electrolysis
does not transfer all the properties (ions) of stainless properties to the surface of the receptor
metal. Since the electrolysis process does not transfer ALL the stainless-steel molecular
properties content, it is not, and cannot be "stainless steel" plating BECAUSE one, stainless steel
is a grade of steel composition, and two, not all the stainless-steel properties can be transferred
using electrolysis.
Why believe established engineering science as opposed to another all-knowing Ai deity?
ChatGPT is, as it has been proven in most cases, incorrect, why? In this case, it is because
ChatGPT does not state the grade of stainless-steel plating, and that can be any grade from grade
200 to Hastelloy C276 that BTW, cannot be tested.
Using the term "solid stainless steel". It is like saying plywood or engineered wood is solid wood
because it contains all wood products or, that a piece of jewelry is "solid gold" when it may be
24,18,16,12 karat gold content or even "solid gold" flash plating. If you want "solid gold" as the
criteria, I have some to sell you from China.
100% and "solid" are marketing hype found only from hucksters, sales people, fraudsters and flashy
marketing claims meant to deceive.
Caveat Emptor ya'll.
"My 'shine is 100% corn sour mash", but I add a little rice and barley and herbs to the mash for
that family secret flavor, but it's 100% corn in that mash". Uh huh, the FDA has been playing that
% game since the day it was formed.
There are literally dozens of grades of stainless steel. Stainless steel it is not, nor has it ever
been graded by "solid" or 100%. Stainless steel composition is set by standards written by various
engineers to address specific hardness , wear and corrosion properties, then set to a "GRADE".
316 stainless steel, or Hastelloy C276, now that I can understand as being stainless steel. 100%
or Solid are meaningless.
I have spent the better part of 50 years automating control systems for all sorts of processes from
apple pealing and produce processing, semiconductors, nuclear power, Watson Ai, ultra-pure water
production to x-ray imaging and xenon gas detection, and a large part of that job was to know metals
the metals used in those machines or processes, and most times get metal composition certified from
the manufacturers process used in regulated processes like pharmaceuticals, food processing, and
nuclear power instrumentation.
There are reasons you do not want certain metals touching the food you eat or in contact with
nuclear generated steam.
Run that one through ChatGPT Ai and see what metals leach cancer causing molecules directly into
your medicines or food and accept it as fact if you trust ChatGPT "facts" with your life.
And there are reasons why "stainless steel plating" is also hype, as of today at least. I am sure
technology will advance someday to plate 308 or 316 or Hastelloy C276 onto pot metal or mild steel
and the process will be certified, but it does not exist as of the date of this email.
I will gladly accept a show quality triple plate chrome bumper for my Triumph and it will last long
after I am gone, because its corrosion properties have been proven to last more than 50 years. But
if it is claimed to be solid stainless or 100% stainless, I'll want to know the grade AND polish.
Here we go with another "fluif" worthless discussion.
Another Caveat from someone who actually worked on IBM Watson speech recognition project: Be
extremely careful how you compose OpenAi ChatGPT questions including the specific wording and
ordering and grammar in that question, you may not get the answers you expect and will then blindly
rely upon as facts.
That is because OpenAI ChatGPT is not programmed nor capable to answer your question:
"Do you know what I mean?".
No computer program algorithm has of yet until you attach the bio-junction connection directly into
your brain, and even then, it will probably get it wrong because some novice app programmer came up
with the algorithm.
Know what I mean?
Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage
-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net></a> On Behalf Of Stan Foster
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 8:39 PM
To: TeriAnn J. Wakeman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><tjwakeman@gmail.com></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" moz-do-not-send="true">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>
Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel
ChatGPT confirms:
Yes, it is possible to plate steel with stainless steel. This process is known as electroplating or
galvanization and involves depositing a thin layer of stainless steel onto the surface of the steel
through an electrolytic process.
In this process, the steel is first cleaned and then placed in an electrolytic bath with a solution
containing the ions of the stainless steel. An electric current is then passed through the solution,
causing the ions to be deposited onto the surface of the steel.
The resulting plated steel will have the corrosion-resistant properties of stainless steel, which
can be beneficial for applications where the steel will be exposed to harsh environments or
corrosive substances.
-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net></a> On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 9:29 PM
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" moz-do-not-send="true">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>
Subject: Re: [TR] Stainless Steel
On 5/13/23 6:08 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org" moz-do-not-send="true">stagbytriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a> wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Sorry Alex,
You may want to do some fact checking. There is no grade for "solid stainless steel".
I do not believe a stainless-steel plating exists for plating over
mild steel technology exists a of yet.
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</blockquote>
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">"Welcome to PTT BUMPERS. We are a specialist manufacturing in stainless steel bumpers for classic
car. Our bumper are made of 100% stainless steel grade 304 , thickness 1.5mm and hand polished. The
gloss of bumper is shiny like mirror polish and the backside of bumper are cover by 3 painted layers
to protect the bumper from the bad weather and chemicals elements."
They plate them somehow.
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