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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Ah GUYS!!! , <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>RE-read that CLOSELY!!! That is <i>NOT 101 “foot pounds”</i>, it is <b>10</b><u>lbs. ft</u>. or TEN “pounds foot”!! That is an abbreviation lbs. for pounds.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>That 10 foot pounds “seats” the bearing, then you back off the castle nut as specified and recheck runout.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If you torque those bearings to 100 ft pounds you will break the bearings and probably other stuff including overstressing the small threads under the castle nut.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Glenn Merrell, CAP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>StagByTriumph Garage<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>210 Bass Circle<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Lafayette, Colorado USA 80026-1811 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>+1 (303) 817-8559 mobile<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>aka Stag-By-Triumph Garage (<i>on FaceBook</i>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Remember, “the BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Stone chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen … with the occasional smell of manure!”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>DAVID MASSEY<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2023 6:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> don.hiscock@gmail.com; aljlthomson@charter.net<br><b>Cc:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Still, 101??? Not 100? Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- 1% Especially back in the day. With the old torsion-beam torque wrenches with a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5 lb-ft.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dave </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Don Hiscock <<a href="mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>><br>To: Alex & Janet Thomson <<a href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>><br>Cc: Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yiv5715629523><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>It's not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the ell count. It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv5715629523yqt74756><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex & Janet Thomson <<a href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net" target="_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I’ve never done any work on an MG but I’ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of “hand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest castellation”. That’s what I have done on all of our cars and trucks over the years and it seems to work.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a misprint?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Alex Thomson</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> Triumphs [mailto:<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014. I've not quite gotten over that episode yet, Yes, don't fool around with wheel bearings!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings. He read this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb·ft, not 10 lb·ft. Yikes.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png" target="_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg" target="_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg" target="_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it turned out. And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into their shop that afternoon while I flew home.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences. Take care with wheel bearings.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier <<a href="mailto:pethier7@gmail.com" target="_blank">pethier7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Don't mess with wheel bearings. Get it checked out. I lost a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35 PM Sujit Roy <<a href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, through the steering wheel, from the left front wheel only when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>There is no vibration going straight or when turning right. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I plan to swap the wheel with my spare, but can a bad bearing cause these symptoms?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub bearings are tapered.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sujit <br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino, California<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br><a href="https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier7@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier7@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:#EFEFEF'>Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:#EFEFEF'>1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div id=yqt17971><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a><a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>