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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">thanks Greg</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">yes, i did re-adjust the brakes.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">2 weekends ago i pulled the drum off to check and see if anything was astray.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">no wet spots</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">shoe was held intact with the little clipy things.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">put the drum back on and adjust.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">so if the hose has become a one way valve, why would it only lock up rear left, and even on just moderate braking.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">weakest link in the chain?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">im at the point where im going to replace master cylinder, hose and slave cylinder.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">just be done with it</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">thanks</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">frank</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 06:23:04 PM PDT, Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070"><div><div>I don't know if anyone has mentioned this directly. I know somebody said drum brakes can self engage. I believe they actually tend to do this when they are too loose and they catch and wedge, have you adjusted the brakes?, sorry if this was mentioned and I missed it.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I had a similar head scratcher issue on my old Austin Healey and strangely enough it went away when I did a thorough check and adjustment of the parking brake, I know it is the brake adjuster that should determine the position of the shoes when the parking brake is at rest, but nevertheless that is when my problem went away.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Greg Lemon</div><div>TR250<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070gmail_quote"><div class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070yqt3597175904" id="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070yqt90097"><div class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 5:30 PM <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:jpaynepbr@cox.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jpaynepbr@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344WordSection1"><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal">Frank,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal">I’d start with the hose, old ones can flex internally and collapse.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal">Alternatively, your M. Cylinder may have failed and may not be allowing the return of fluid on release, I had this happen on a TR6 with one of those recalled TRW master cylinders about 10 years ago.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal">Ma<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal">On cars with an adjustable length master cylinder rod, the rod can be too long, preventing the return of fluid – had this happen on Jag XK’s. Getting the rod adjusted perfectly was a PITA.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank Fisher<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:15 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Michael Marr <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs List <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] locking brake TR3<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">i try not to use the brakes, but occasionally some bone head gets in the way<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><div id="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayahoo_quoted_0240455756"><div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 12:20:07 PM PDT, Michael Marr <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>> wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div id="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795"><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">Then I would look at the hose on that side, as Keith Stewart suggested. <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">I didn’t think you used the brakes, anyway!<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">Mike<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div id="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795yqtfd93409"><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">On Apr 27, 2021, at 14:16, Frank Fisher <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></blockquote></div></div><div id="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795yqtfd45666"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">i took the drum off 2 weekends ago.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">did not see any leakage.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">everything looked ok. springs in place, little taby things that hold the shoes in place still there.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">re-set the adjustment when i put things back.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">ughhhh.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><div id="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyahoo_quoted_9837728254"><div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">On Tuesday, April 27, 2021, 12:11:49 PM PDT, Michael Marr <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>> wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div id="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396"><div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">Frank:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">This happened to me once. It turned out that I had a leaking brake cylinder and the friction material on the shoes had become saturated with brake fluid. I was surprised to learn that this will cause the shoes to lock onto the drum. Check your master cylinder reservoir to see if you are losing fluid, then check the brake cylinder on the side that’s locking, for signs of leakage.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span 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class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">Email: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div id="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396yqt38693"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"> Triumphs <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank Fisher<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 27, 2021 12:02 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Triumphs List <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> [TR] locking brake TR3<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">my rear left brake keeps locking up on me.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">took the drum off last weekend and all looked good.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">just took it for a run and ,,,,,,ugh. still locks up</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">any thoughts on where to look next?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydpda2fc883yiv8006641070m_-401192771192324344ydpa15601ayiv1543907795ydp10320ddbyiv0028603396msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">Frank</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>** <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br clear="none">
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