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    <p>ditto. Validate the issue with minimal work <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/7/2021 7:24 PM, David P wrote:<br>
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      <p>Have a thick gasket made.. Lubbock Gasket and Supply 806-763
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/7/2021 4:39 PM, Greg Lemon
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        <div dir="auto">If you want to save the head you may be able to
          lower the compression ratio a bit by reshaping the combustion
          chamber.  This is theoretically, I don't know how much can be
          removed, Kastner book would be a starting point, but you would
          probably want to take out more than that, measure combustion
          chamber size, etc.</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 7, 2021, 5:23 PM
            Dave Connitt <<a href="mailto:dconnitt@fuse.net"
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            <div dir="auto">Hi Cliff,
              <div>A lot of racers have milled the heads of wet liner
                engines to increase compression. In Kas Kastner’s
                TR4/TR4A competition preparation manual, he goes into
                much detail about how to reshape the combustion chambers
                in the head to reduce/eliminate “hot spots”. This may be
                the cause of your pre-ignition. Yoy may want to get that
                book and read over his cylinder head chapter. Regarding
                the push rod length, the length reduction is directly
                related to how much material is removed from the head so
                just buying shortened pushrods won’t get you the best
                results. I think you should figure out how much material
                was removed from the “stock” head and shorten the
                pushrods accordingly. </div>
              <div>I think you can certainly save the head but you will
                need to do some homework reading over Kas’s competition
                prep manual and find a good automotive machinist for the
                pushrods.</div>
              <div>Dave Connitt <br>
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                <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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                  <blockquote type="cite">On Apr 7, 2021, at 5:41 PM,
                    DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"
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                      <div> <font size="3">I went the band-aid route on
                          my TR3 for the same reason.  But the right way
                          is to get a machinist to shorten the
                          pushrods.  BPNW sells short rods for the
                          TR6/SC engine but at that time they didn't
                          have any for the wet-sleeve engine.</font><br>
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                      <div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave </font><br>
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                          From: Cliff Hansen <<a
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                          To: list Triumph <<a
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                          Sent: Wed, Apr 7, 2021 4:23 pm<br>
                          Subject: [TR] Advice on high compression head<br>
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                                <div>The telenovela “What’s going on
                                  with this 4A cylinder head” has
                                  developed a new plot twist.</div>
                                <div>  </div>
                                <div>The head, after cleanup, measures
                                  3.21” from bottom to the surface for
                                  the valve cover gasket. Stock is 3.330
                                  (if I got the number correctly). Some
                                  PO cut 0.11 off, because only 0.010”
                                  was removed in this round of clean up.
                                  Now I can see an explanation for the
                                  persistent pinging I’ve dealt with
                                  over the last few years (head has been
                                  milled so compression is high,
                                  material near intake valves has been
                                  thinned, increasing likelihood of hot
                                  spots – I’m getting this from
                                  Kastner’s preparation book), which I
                                  had thought was due to leaking
                                  intakes, carb shafts, or operating at
                                  higher altitude.</div>
                                <div>  </div>
                                <div>As is, I can’t use this head
                                  because there is not enough slack in
                                  the valve train to give 0.010”
                                  clearance on several valves. I didn’t
                                  notice before, but now that I am
                                  looking, all the valve adjusters were
                                  nearly backed out all the way.</div>
                                <div>  </div>
                                <div>Looking for advice from the list:
                                  is there any reasonable way to use
                                  this head?</div>
                                <div>- I’d prefer to reduce compression
                                  but don’t see any reasonable way to
                                  accomplish that. I called GasketWorks
                                  and he gently discouraged me from
                                  getting a custom thick head gasket,
                                  saying instead I’d be better off
                                  finding a head which had not been
                                  milled so much. </div>
                                <div> - Shimming the rocker pedestals to
                                  get valve clearance feels like a
                                  bandaid which certainly won’t address
                                  the pinging (assuming that the pinging
                                  is a result of the shortened head).</div>
                                <div>  </div>
                                <div>Would appreciate any advice on the
                                  way forward.</div>
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                                <div>Cliff</div>
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