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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob, <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You get to subtract your costs from revenue to get net income, so you would not have to pay taxes in your examples. Under certain circumstances, you might even be able to claim a loss.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A different Bob<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 31, 2021 1:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] eBay<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>I fail to understand how you can owe taxes on something you already paid for with income left over after paying fed and state income taxes. For example: Say I have some NOS oil filters that I picked up from TRF years ago but decided to sell the car and I no longer need them. So I decide to sell them for whatever I can get. How is paying say 10$ for the original filter and then selling it for 5$ income?<o:p></o:p></p><p>Earlier in the Fall I sold a few tools I will never use again because my restoration days are over. They went for about 25% of their current value. <o:p></o:p></p><p>Also; say you sell a used car in a private deal. How can that be income? I sold a motor cycle and a used car a few years ago. The buyer has to pay sales tax when they registered them but this is not income.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 1/31/21 3:26 PM, Thomas FitzGibbon wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>"Fisrt off it is ILLEGAL to have any company require your SS number for ident." <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>If I am not mistaken, ebay is NOT requiring SSNs as a form of identification. I believe I read an article recently that says the IRS is cracking down on them and requiring them to report on transactions so the IRS can assess taxes that are due (much like when a company sends a form 1099 to contract workers). That does require a SSN or other TIN be provided. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 01/31/2021 12:35 PM dave <a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com"><dave@ranteer.com></a> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Its for sellers, not buyers. But they are eliminating paypal as an option<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong>From:</strong> Triumphs <a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"><triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net></a> <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Rye Livingston<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Sunday, January 31, 2021 9:59 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> John Linney <a href="mailto:john@linneyweb.com"><john@linneyweb.com></a><br><strong>Cc:</strong> <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TR] eBay<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Yes I agree, something isn’t right here. eBay is not going to ask for a SSN number to buy something any more than the local grocery store. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Rye<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Jan 31, 2021, at 7:46 AM, John Linney <<a href="mailto:john@linneyweb.com">john@linneyweb.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>The SSN is only needed if you are setup as a seller so they can report income as required by the IRS. It’s no different to becoming an Amazon seller. The SSN is provided on a government W9 form. Any other reason or form of request may be a phishing scam.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>On Jan 31, 2021, at 7:26 AM, Paul Tegler <<a href="mailto:ptegler@verizon.net">ptegler@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>�hadn't heard that yet.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Fisrt off it is ILLEGAL to have any company require your SS number for ident. Even hospitals etc can not legally require you supply that info.<br>BTDT� way too many times. Your SS is NOT ana 'national ident' number. Bt Fed law it is ONLY a SS usage number.� I work for DoD and they even changed over a couple years back from using your SS to having full up employee numbers.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>ptegler</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>On 1/31/2021 5:37 AM, dave wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>eBay is requiring a bank account and a social security number.� i'm done.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>�<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>what other avenues are available for buying and selling?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a 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