<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">It appears that all the brands will do this. Battery Tender Jr, Die Hard and others. False sense of security we’re taking care of the batteries in our cars, and we’re not. Probably takes a lot more expensive battery charger with lots of options to be able to leave it hooked up for months at a time, like over the winter. Hopefully someone on this list will know of a proper battery storage/charger/tender.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rye<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Jim Henningsen <<a href="mailto:trguy75@gmail.com" class="">trguy75@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I have had same issues with battery tender jr. They cook batteries if left on too long. You’d think a company would figure this stuff out.</div><div dir="ltr" class="">Jim Henningsen</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Dec 25, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Rye Livingston <<a href="mailto:ryel@mac.com" class="">ryel@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class="">For what it’s worth, here is an opinion from to experts I was surprised to hear. One is a Porsche mechanic who’s been in the business for 30+ years. The Interstate battery had died and even pumped out some white power at the end, out a breather tube from the battery. I cleaned it all up well, worried about battery acid in the front truck. I went to the shop, he’s an Interstate distributor as well, and bought a new battery and told him what happened, and that I’d had the battery connected to a Battery Tender Jr. He told me that even that brand, which is good, is really not good to leave on all the time, and it will cook the battery. He recommends putting it on for a week or two, then disconnecting for a week or two, and repeat. Well that’s a pain.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Then in my Airstream trailer which has two 12 volt deep cycle batteries, I’ve read that the power converter that comes with the trailer also isn’t designed to leave plugged in all the time and it will cook the batteries, which did happen. I tried using a Battery Tender Jr on that but it couldn’t deal with 2 batteries. I was then told about an upgrade for the Airsteam power converter on Amazon, about $200 or so, which I installed and it does manage the float and it can be left plugged in for months and months no problem.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So be careful with Battery Tenders. I have two Battery Tender Jrs and four Die Hard battery tenders for multiple cars, Kubota tractor and a boat. Just be careful how long you leave them plugged in and check the water level if it’s not a gel battery. I have an Optima in my Triumph and Kubota.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Good luck,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rye<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <<a href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net" class="">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Are the batteries still connected to their cars? Maybe there is a slight draw on the TR6. Our TR6 took the whole summer off because it needs a new wiring harness. There were some wires that had let the smoke out! After I drove it into winter storage, I disconnected the ground cable and noticed that there was a tiny spark! Something is leaking current. Another project to do!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Alex Thomson<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Triumphs [<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" class="">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>David Friedlander<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, December 25, 2020 3:18 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>New England Triumphs; TR3 Triumphs<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[TR] Battery charging<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima red top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even though each battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need more frequent “topping up” than the Optima.... Interesting....<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Dave<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" class="">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" class="">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" class="">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" class="">http://www.team.net/archive</a></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com" class="">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com</a></span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div><span class="">** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" class="">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" class="">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a></span><br class=""><span class="">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" class="">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" class="">http://www.team.net/archive</a></span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com" class="">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com</a></span><br class=""></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>