<div dir="auto">Rye;<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I've been ysing my Battery Tender + for long periods, over the years, and have never had it cook a battety....</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Dave</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 2:31 PM Rye Livingston <<a href="mailto:ryel@mac.com">ryel@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><span style="font-size:14px">Two points.  I learned from my local mechanic that even the higher end Battery Tender Plus that is in the little metal box, will not maintain a battery, but will cook a battery when left on all the time.  I was advised to plug it in for a week, 2 at the most, then disconnect if for a week or two.  What a pain.</span><div><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">In my Airstream trailer, which has a charging system when plugged in, to charge the deep cycle batteries.  I learned the hard way that the unit that comes from the factory is crap and will cook the batteries.  I upgraded to a model that will let me leave it plugged in for months to years, no problem.</span><div><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">So back to changing and knowing the status of your battery, this handy tool is excellent.  SOLAR BA7 <a href="https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=1&keywords=solar+battery+tester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar+battery+test,aps,852&sr=8-3&th=1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=1&keywords=solar%2Bbattery%2Btester&qid=1602785609&sprefix=solar%2Bbattery%2Btest%2Caps%2C852&sr=8-3&th=1</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">No idea why it has Solar in the name as it has nothing to do with solar.  </span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">You don’t have to disconnect your battery.  Battery doesn’t need to be fully charged to test it.  You just connect it and enter it what kind of battery it is and the Cold Cranking Amps it’s rated for, and it tells you the condition of the battery and how many CCA it still has.  I was blown away when I tested a 5 year old Optima battery in my Triumph TR3, and I think it’s rated for 700 CCA, and it still has 620, which is why it still works great.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">Good luck,</span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:14px">Rye Livingston</span></div><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:14px">Activities Chairman</span></div><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:14px">Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club</span></div><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:14px">1960 Triumph TR3A</span></div><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="float:none;display:inline!important;font-size:14px">PH: 530-FIND-RYE</span></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> <br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:06 AM, dave <<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Funny you should mention this.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I have a battery charger that I bought from Kmart (remember them) around 1978.  All steel construction with an analog gage in front.  It still works great.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I purchased a modern charger about 10 years ago and it lasted only a few years.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">If you have a light timer, you can plug the charger into the timer and let it charge only an hour or so a day.  Old tech + old tech beats new tech!<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b><span> </span>Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Chris Simo<br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:27 AM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>list Triumph <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[TR] Battery troubles<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.   I put my new battery charger on it -  It's all electronic  vs my old one that just had a 3 position switch and an analog meter.<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is connected backwards,  light a light with a bad battery, etc.  Trouble is I"m not sure I trust it.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad.  I havent been driving my truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,  and my mom's car battery showed bad as well....<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens.  It's cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Or they just sat so long they died.....     Anyone have experience with those newer fancy chargers?  Any issues or concerns?<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></div></div></div></div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a></span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a>  <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.team.net/archive</a></span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-we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