<html><body><div>My local British repair shop recommended a Hardi fuel pump, made in Germany. You can mount it by the fuel tank to push, or in the engine bay to pull. Works great, very quiet.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div class="x-apple-signature">Rye<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE</div><div><br>On August 11, 2020 at 11:27 AM, Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="msg-quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">I concur with Albert. I have a made in Italy one from TRF on my 6 and works perfectly. I carry a spare Delphi low pressure electric pump in boot as emergency. Real easy to hook up on driver inner fender and wire to coil for power. They are inexpensive and readily available. </div><div dir="ltr">Cheers</div><div dir="ltr">Jim Henningsen</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 11, 2020, at 1:45 PM, albert runyan <albertrunyan@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">We stopped selling this pump about 5 years ago. Our current fuel pump is made in Italy and we do not have issues with them.<div>regards,</div><div>Albert</div><div>TRF</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:43 PM staffel <<a href="mailto:staffel@comcast.net" data-mce-href="mailto:staffel@comcast.net">staffel@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">Several years ago on an evening club drive in the Catoctin Mts of Maryland my TR4 developed running/ hesitation issues. Then it got dark & started to rain. Could not drive the car steady over 45mph. Typical fuel flow clogging issue symptoms. Fortunately we made it into Fredericksburg and a Motel.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">Next morning, still raining, the issue was apparent: in the bottom of the Glass fuel bowl- a pile of 'rust dust'. Cleaned the bowl & nursed the car home 30 miles, but it kept dying. Fortunately a Jag club friend came by and got his trailer & towed me home.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">Further examination determined sediment also in the CD carbs fuel bowls. So much for the fuel pump 'screen' being 'effective'.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">Also examination of the fuel pump (original) revealed a weak diaphragm, so while working on the carbs, ordered a new pump from TRF. </span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">A few months later got everything back together. The engine started right up & ran fine. But no matter how I tried to seal the threads on fuel feed of the original curved pipe inlet 'nut' to the new pump ( pipe dope, teflon tape, rtv) the leak wouldn't stop. </span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">Magnifying glass exam of the original Triumph Male pipe 'nut' and the female threaded bore of the new TRF pump revealed a slight thread mismatch - Chinese machining. It was not Metric either. </span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">So after talking with TRF, I decided to forget the mechanical pump and install an electric pump, ala Jaguar V12s & Jensen Healey / GTs (Lotus 907).</span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">Well, I installed a couple of different new electric pumps adjacent to the mechanical pump.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">They would never 'self prime'. </span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">Now, returning to the project. I removed the mechanical pump, & DRAINED the tank of the old fuel. It seems that the gravity feed when the tank is less than 1/2 full requires the elec pump to be very low ( like the original input height of the original pump, to receive fuel. </span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">So I am redetailing the frame (cleaning & new paint) and securing the new fuel line, inline glass Filter & elec pump right on the frame. This allows the steel feed line from the tank ( after Dremel Tool cutting) to match the new location of the electric pump.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">Next will be modifying a new copper fuel line ( semblance of originality) to meet the elec pump feed right behind & adjacent to the Water pump. The original copper pipe mated to the back of the mechanical pump , ran up and forward along the engine at the cylinder head level to the front of the engine & then across to the carburetor feeds.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">Finally hope this resolves the fuel delivery issue.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">I wanted to share a warning about the TRF pump supplier manufacturing glitch. So others can not waste years getting their TRs back to Roadworthy status.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;">Obviously not going to drive a car with weeping fuel near a hot engine. At least on the TR4 & 6s, ( unlike Jaguar 6s ( have 2) or V12s ( have 3), Jensen GTs ( have 3) ; the exhaust Manifolds are on the opposite side of the engine. </span></div><div dir="auto"><span face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif;" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto">Sherman D Taffel </div><div dir="auto">Columbia MD and Goldvein VA </div><div dir="auto">65 TR4 CT 50054L</div><div dir="auto">( per VTR the last known TR4 produced & shipped to USA)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="gmail-m_513921397614640008composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size: 85%; color: #575757;" dir="auto" data-mce-style="font-size: 85%; color: #575757;">Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S10, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="gmail-m_513921397614640008composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size: 85%; color: #575757;" dir="auto" data-mce-style="font-size: 85%; color: #575757;">Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S10, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" data-mce-href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br> <br> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" data-mce-href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" data-mce-href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" data-mce-href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br> <br> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/albertrunyan@gmail.com" data-mce-href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/albertrunyan@gmail.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/albertrunyan@gmail.com</a><br></blockquote></div><span>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" data-mce-href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **</span><br><span></span><br><span>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" data-mce-href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a></span><br><span>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" data-mce-href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" data-mce-href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com" data-mce-href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com</a></span><br></div></blockquote><div class="_stretch"><span class="body-text-content">** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" data-mce-href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" data-mce-href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" data-mce-href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" data-mce-href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com" data-mce-href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com</a><br></span></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>