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<div class="yiv3521628490MsoNormal">No, we attempted to put the battery in the car after it had been connected to a charger for some period.  The negative terminal sparked so we did not.  We put it back on the floor where we checked it with the multi meter.   </div>

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<div class="yiv3521628490MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> DAVID MASSEY <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com">dave1massey@cs.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 14, 2020 9:25 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dave@ranteer.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com">dave@ranteer.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] what is going on?????</span></div>
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