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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I know that there are many TR list messages that don’t get into my mailbox, either. I usually receive the automated message about “many bounced messages” once every two weeks or more often. I think it is at the Charter.net level rather than at the Outlook level. I enjoyed seeing the sandblasting discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alex Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rye Livingston<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2020 4:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Fwd: sandblasting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I sent this at 8:38 am, but it never came back around to me, so I don't know if it went out to the list or not. Sorry if it did. This is the media my nephew used on my trailer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rye<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='color:black'>From: </span></b>Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com><br><b><span style='color:black'>Date: </span></b>4/24/2020<br><b><span style='color:black'>To: </span></b>dave <dave@ranteer.com><br><b><span style='color:black'>Cc: </span></b>'Triumphs' <triumphs@autox.team.net><br><b><span style='color:black'>Subject: </span>Re: [TR] sandblasting</b><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>OK, it's - COAL SLAG BLAST MEDIA<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.agsco.com/coal-slag/">https://www.agsco.com/coal-slag/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On April 24, 2020 at 8:04 AM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>That black media he used was likely ground up lava. I have used that and its not as aggressive as sand. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rye Livingston<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2020 9:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net><br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net) <triumphs@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] sandblasting<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>My nephew started his own company of mobile power cleaning. He bought this serious diesel powered professional duel axle trailer rig in Texas, and he could power clean with all kinds of media depending on the application, and he also had hot water blasting. He did all kinds of jobs, from vintage cars, boats for the Coast Guard, to BART stations in San Francisco for both graffiti to human waste. And if that wasn't gross enough, he said one of the worst was a Chinese restaurant that got sited and fined every day for grease oozing out of the cinder black and concrete enclosure for their dumpster. One of his easiest jobs was my 8' long utility trailer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In all those situations, a mobile service like his, they will capture and clean up the media and waste, big vacuum system. For that Chinese restaurant he put out dams to channel the water and goo and were vacuuming up all that grease and hot water, very gross. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>At my house he used an inert material, but it was not sand. It was some sort of black material that looked like shards of coal. I've texted him to find out what it was.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>As was mentioned, for the cars he blasted, he had a couple of "learning" cars that were not vintage. The trick was to learn not to let the hood, or any long body panel, get hot and warp. So check for references to make sure who you hire has that experience. After he learned he did several cars including BMWs and vintage 911s and 356 Porsches.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>When he did this work, he had a full helmet respirator setup, coveralls, gloves and boots. No media got where he didn't want it, but he was a hot sweaty mess when he took that helmet off.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I live in a cul-de-sac and he did the blasting down there, and there was just a little bit of media that was under the trailer that didn't get cleaned up, so again, a mobile service has a process to not leave all that behind.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>He also had a "rust inhibitor" he sprayed on the bare metal so it didn't get a quick flash rust overnight. Google that for details. I was able to paint over that no problem. I bought a gallon of black Rust-Oleum paint and repainted it myself and it's like a new trailer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Good luck,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Rye<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On April 23, 2020 at 9:04 PM, DAVE HOGYE <<a href="mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net">dlhogye@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Back in '08-'09, I had my TR3 body tub and frame blasted at a local powder coating company. $300 each. They blasted every square inch with crushed garnet. The tub was stripped of every bolt-on part. In two different visits, I set up both items on my makeshift engine stand rotisserie, with custom attachments, to make it a lot easier for them and the best outcome. Worth every penny and more.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Skip this part if you can and have a company do this work. You might even consider a mobile unit come to you. Different media can be used depending on paint or rust. Special care has to be taken on body parts, not to warp them, but if the person has a little finesse, any harm can be avoided.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>The important part of good blasting is high CFM from the compressor. If you don't have enough CFM, you'll be working way too hard for way too long. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Dave H.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On April 23, 2020 at 8:25 PM Greg Lemon <<a href="mailto:grglmn@gmail.com">grglmn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I stripped a TR4 years ago over the course of I don't remember how many evenings after work, using several gallons of paint stripper bought at closeout tool store, saying never again and wishing I had a sandblaster. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Be careful what you wish for I guess.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Greg Lemon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>TR250<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 9:08 PM Jeff Scarbrough < <a href="mailto:fishplate@gmail.com">fishplate@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:53 PM Michael Porter < <a href="mailto:mdporter@dfn.com">mdporter@dfn.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p>Which reminds me of J.E. Gordon's (<em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The New Science of Strong Materials</span></em>) remark about production welding: "Welding is like Hell--fun for the first three or four hours."<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>There was a time when I couldn't wait to learn how to run the cotton picker at work. It got old kind of quick...But it still beat a day in the office in front of the computer.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> ** <br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a> <br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a> <br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn@gmail.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> ** <br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a> <br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a> <br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dlhogye@comcast.net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dlhogye@comcast.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><br> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=body-text-content>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **</span><br><br><span class=body-text-content>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a></span><br><span class=body-text-content>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a></span><br><br><span class=body-text-content>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=body-text-content>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **</span><br><br><span class=body-text-content>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a></span><br><span class=body-text-content>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a></span><br><br><span class=body-text-content>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ryel@mac.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>