<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp17a92942yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The car won't fetch the amount you paid for them plus they are not original on the car. I have a TR6 with solid wheels and am glad I don't have wire wheels. They look great until one comes off, I know that from personal experience. You really have be on top of them. I love wire wheels but you have to know how to inspect the. Check out mgaguru.com, they have a good rundown on checking splines, etc. Also, the VTR site</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">is helpfull. I wish I knew this 20 years ago. Good Luck!</div><div><br></div><div class="ydp17a92942signature">Joe Mato<div>62 Wood Road</div><div>Redding, CT 06896</div><div>917 232 1555</div></div></div>
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On Saturday, February 29, 2020, 02:03:37 PM EST, triumphs-request@autox.team.net <triumphs-request@autox.team.net> wrote:
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Solid or wires (Brian Induni)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 2. distributor advance (Peter Arakelian)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 3. Wiring (TERRY SMITH)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 4. Re: Wiring (Geo Hahn)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 5. Re: Solid or wires (Bob)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 6. Re: Solid or wires (DAVID MASSEY)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 7. Re: Solid or wires (Mark J Bradakis)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 8. Re: Wiring (wbeech)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 9. Re: distributor advance (Tony Drews)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 10. Yeah Spring! (Greg Lemon)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 11. Re: Solid or wires (Greg Lemon)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 12. Re: Solid or wires (John Macartney)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 16:02:52 -0800<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Brian Induni <<a href="mailto:binduni@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">binduni@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Solid or wires<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <CAHYQcSWAb4+60tHgODXV1PC=<a href="mailto:Diwh-1EfnbKTUpyxgWCvTb0mSg@mail.gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Diwh-1EfnbKTUpyxgWCvTb0mSg@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hello all. Hoping you can help with this. I have a '74 TR6 I'm restoring<br></div><div dir="ltr">and am contemplating the wheels. The car originally came with solid wheels,<br></div><div dir="ltr">but I have also have a set of nearly new (READ: in absolutely excellent<br></div><div dir="ltr">shape) Dayton wires that I could put on it. Yes, I know, the stud are a<br></div><div dir="ltr">different length - been down that road a few times. My question is: is a<br></div><div dir="ltr">TR6 more desirable with wires? I don't plan on keeping it once it's<br></div><div dir="ltr">finished.... just a thing I have about the love of restoration. It's a<br></div><div dir="ltr">Malard blue car with factory OD (and still has OD), so I want to make the<br></div><div dir="ltr">car all it can be. Thoughts on the wheels?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Brian<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">--<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Brian Induni<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">CEO, Classic Automotive Innovations<br></div><div dir="ltr">www.ClassicAutoInnovations.com <<a href="http://www.classicautoinnovations.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.classicautoinnovations.com/</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200228/db0eb0ad/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200228/db0eb0ad/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 02:09:07 +0000<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Peter Arakelian <<a href="mailto:PeterAra@msn.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PeterAra@msn.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "<a href="mailto:tony@tonydrews.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tony@tonydrews.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:tony@tonydrews.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tony@tonydrews.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: "<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] distributor advance<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:DM5PR06MB35644BF38FCE15A960DD1077C1E90@DM5PR06MB3564.namprd06.prod.outlook.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">DM5PR06MB35644BF38FCE15A960DD1077C1E90@DM5PR06MB3564.namprd06.prod.outlook.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Tony, if I follow you correctly, you are saying that by changing the springs I may have made it so that all the mechanical advance is used up at idle and I may have no more at speed. Where with the older springs I would get mechanical advance later in the rpms and so have more advance at speed.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Would the marking on the weight of 13 degrees indicate its maxium advance? If so, I suspect I may in fact be using all the mechanical at idle since my idle timing jumped past the pully markings and I can only estimate a 10-15 degree jump. Maybe I should go back to the old springs.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>The springs should just change what RPM it takes to get to full advance<br></div><div dir="ltr">but the full advance should be the same (weights against the stops).?<br></div><div dir="ltr">I'm a little unclear on how much you changed the timing, it sounds like<br></div><div dir="ltr">you had to retard the timing after the spring replacement - this would<br></div><div dir="ltr">also retard the "all in" timing, which would be what you're running at<br></div><div dir="ltr">3200 RPM.? It's possible it's worse at 3200 now than it was before<br></div><div dir="ltr">because the full advance timing is now less.<<<br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/29a456b6/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/29a456b6/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 3<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 11:16:24 -0500 (EST)<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: TERRY SMITH <<a href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Wiring<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:460599299.583374.1582992984701@connect.xfinity.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">460599299.583374.1582992984701@connect.xfinity.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi everyone. I see there's a guy from Germany on The Triumph Experience asking about how to route TR3 wiring. I'd thought to link him for starters to Terianne's web page that had a diagrzm of the bulkhead holes and what they're for. Alas I don't see it (it was of tremendous he,p to me during my resto some 15 years ago now). <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Anybody have thoughts they can share with him?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Terry Smith TR3A TS 58667<br></div><div dir="ltr">New Hampshire<br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/79344936/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/79344936/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 4<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 09:22:19 -0700<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Geo Hahn <<a href="mailto:ahwahneetr@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ahwahneetr@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: TERRY SMITH <<a href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Wiring<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <CANzE1bGHSRu3CrzAYXxeT97Yco0sVMLJErhoT6w0U=<a href="mailto:cwwecNtA@mail.gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">cwwecNtA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">This? <a href="http://www.tr3a.info/Bulkhead.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.tr3a.info/Bulkhead.htm</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Geo<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 9:16 AM TERRY SMITH <<a href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hi everyone. I see there's a guy from Germany on The Triumph Experience<br></div><div dir="ltr">> asking about how to route TR3 wiring. I'd thought to link him for starters<br></div><div dir="ltr">> to Terianne's web page that had a diagrzm of the bulkhead holes and what<br></div><div dir="ltr">> they're for. Alas I don't see it (it was of tremendous he,p to me during<br></div><div dir="ltr">> my resto some 15 years ago now).<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Anybody have thoughts they can share with him?<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Terry Smith TR3A TS 58667<br></div><div dir="ltr">> New Hampshire<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/1841e508/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/1841e508/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 5<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 11:29:01 -0500<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Bob <<a href="mailto:yellowtr@adelphia.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">yellowtr@adelphia.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Brian Induni <<a href="mailto:binduni@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">binduni@gmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Solid or wires<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:c862a940-2487-4a32-7a89-a9065df07a77@adelphia.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">c862a940-2487-4a32-7a89-a9065df07a77@adelphia.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Brian,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I went with Superlites for my 72 6. Wires on my 63 4 and stock wheels on <br></div><div dir="ltr">my 3. All look great. I have never seen a 6 with wires. If I had to do <br></div><div dir="ltr">it all over again, I would go with the Superlites on all 3.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Bob<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 2/28/20 7:02 PM, Brian Induni wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hello all. Hoping you can help with this. I have a '74 TR6 I'm <br></div><div dir="ltr">> restoring and am contemplating the wheels. The car originally came <br></div><div dir="ltr">> with solid wheels, but I have also?have a set of nearly new (READ: in <br></div><div dir="ltr">> absolutely excellent shape) Dayton wires that I could put on it. Yes, <br></div><div dir="ltr">> I know, the stud are a different length - been down that road a few <br></div><div dir="ltr">> times. My question is: is a TR6 more desirable with wires? I don't <br></div><div dir="ltr">> plan on keeping it once it's finished.... just a thing I have about <br></div><div dir="ltr">> the love of restoration. It's a Malard blue car with factory OD (and <br></div><div dir="ltr">> still has OD), so I want to make the car all it can be. Thoughts on <br></div><div dir="ltr">> the wheels?<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Brian<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> --<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Brian Induni<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> CEO, Classic Automotive Innovations<br></div><div dir="ltr">> www.ClassicAutoInnovations.com <<a href="http://www.classicautoinnovations.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.classicautoinnovations.com/</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/e25d46d0/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/e25d46d0/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 6<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 16:42:29 +0000 (UTC)<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:yellowtr@adelphia.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">yellowtr@adelphia.net</a>, <a href="mailto:binduni@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">binduni@gmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Solid or wires<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:879779748.1665464.1582994549985@mail.yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">879779748.1665464.1582994549985@mail.yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> I believe the question is "will a TR6 with wire wheels sell for a higher price than one with steel wheels.? I don't know what the market is but opinions vary on the desirability of wires on a TR6.? Personally, I don't care for wire wheels on the TR6.? I think the TR6 look is too modern for the anachronistic look of wire wheels.??? I love the look of wires on the TR3 and TR4, however.<br></div><div dir="ltr">But this is just my opinion.? I'm sure there are others who like the look of wire wheels on the TR6.? That is their opinion and equally valid.? It's all about what you like.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">So the answer to the question is what is the market trend?<br></div><div dir="ltr">I don't know.<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Dave <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">-----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Bob <<a href="mailto:yellowtr@adelphia.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">yellowtr@adelphia.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Brian Induni <<a href="mailto:binduni@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">binduni@gmail.com</a>>; triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Sat, Feb 29, 2020 10:29 am<br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Solid or wires<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> Brian, I went with Superlites for my 72 6. Wires on my 63 4 and stock wheels on my 3. All look great. I have never seen a 6 with wires. If I had to do it all over again, I would go with the Superlites on all 3. <br></div><div dir="ltr"> Bob<br></div><div dir="ltr"> On 2/28/20 7:02 PM, Brian Induni wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Hello all. Hoping you can help with this. I have a '74 TR6 I'm restoring and am contemplating the wheels. The car originally came with solid wheels, but I have also?have a set of nearly new (READ: in absolutely excellent shape) Dayton wires that I could put on it. Yes, I know, the stud are a different length - been down that road a few times. My question is: is a TR6 more desirable with wires? I don't plan on keeping it once it's finished.... just a thing I have about the love of restoration. It's a Malard blue car with factory OD (and still has OD), so I want to make the car all it can be. Thoughts on the wheels? <br></div><div dir="ltr"> Brian <br></div><div dir="ltr"> --<br></div><div dir="ltr"> Brian Induni CEO, Classic Automotive Innovations<br></div><div dir="ltr"> www.ClassicAutoInnovations.com? <br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"> ** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"> ** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/76575544/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/76575544/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 7<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 09:43:39 -0700<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Mark J Bradakis <<a href="mailto:mark@bradakis.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mark@bradakis.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Solid or wires<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:16d52879-d3c4-5938-c3f4-35520306cfb9@bradakis.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">16d52879-d3c4-5938-c3f4-35520306cfb9@bradakis.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 2/29/20 9:29 AM, Bob wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Brian,<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> I went with Superlites for my 72 6. Wires on my 63 4 and stock wheels <br></div><div dir="ltr">> on my 3. All look great. I have never seen a 6 with wires.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">My very early '69 TR6, CC25064 had wires on it, with Michelin Redlines.? <br></div><div dir="ltr">Wish I had pictures of it, great car while it lasted.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">mjb.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 8<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 10:48:00 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "wbeech" <<a href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">wbeech@flash.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "'TERRY SMITH'" <<a href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>>, "'triumphs'"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Wiring<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <000001d5ef20$0103dd00$030b9700$@flash.net><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Also, if he needs it, Frank Fisher sells a real nice large format full colour TR3 wiring diagram. I have one and it is real handy whether you are doing a fresh install or chasing problems. Yeah, I?m just a little biased.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Bill<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">TS 30800L <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Triumphs [mailto:<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Geo Hahn<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 10:22 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: TERRY SMITH <<a href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Wiring<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">This? <a href="http://www.tr3a.info/Bulkheadhtm " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.tr3a.info/Bulkheadhtm </a><<a href="http://www.tr3a.info/Bulkhead.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.tr3a.info/Bulkhead.htm</a>> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Geo<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 9:16 AM TERRY SMITH <<a href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>> > wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi everyone. I see there's a guy from Germany on The Triumph Experience asking about how to route TR3 wiring. I'd thought to link him for starters to Terianne's web page that had a diagrzm of the bulkhead holes and what they're for. Alas I don't see it (it was of tremendous he,p to me during my resto some 15 years ago now). <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Anybody have thoughts they can share with him? <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Terry Smith TR3A TS 58667 <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">New Hampshire <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>> **<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/d57a0a49/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/d57a0a49/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 9<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 12:16:33 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Tony Drews <<a href="mailto:tony@tonydrews.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tony@tonydrews.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Peter Arakelian <<a href="mailto:PeterAra@msn.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PeterAra@msn.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: "<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] distributor advance<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:6ca56b7c-e4e5-a994-2748-f97ac0b8149b@tonydrews.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">6ca56b7c-e4e5-a994-2748-f97ac0b8149b@tonydrews.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I'm not saying all advance is used at idle, but what I'm saying is that <br></div><div dir="ltr">when all the mechanical advance is used, you're at a different advance <br></div><div dir="ltr">setting than before (you had to change the timing after changing the <br></div><div dir="ltr">springs, so when you do that the full advance amount changes <br></div><div dir="ltr">correspondingly).? I'm unclear which direction it changed.? Your "at <br></div><div dir="ltr">3200 RPM" observation would almost always be at full advance regardless <br></div><div dir="ltr">of which springs you're using.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Stiffer springs should equate to less advance at idle than before I'd think.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Regards, Tony Drews<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 2/28/2020 8:09 PM, Peter Arakelian wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Tony, if I follow you correctly, you are saying that by changing the <br></div><div dir="ltr">> springs I may have made it so that all?the mechanical advance is used <br></div><div dir="ltr">> up at idle and?I?may have no more at speed.? Where with the older <br></div><div dir="ltr">> springs I would get mechanical advance later in the rpms and so have <br></div><div dir="ltr">> more advance at speed.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Would the marking on the weight of 13 degrees indicate its maxium <br></div><div dir="ltr">> advance?? If so, I suspect I may in fact be using all the mechanical <br></div><div dir="ltr">> at idle since my idle timing jumped?past the pully markings and I can <br></div><div dir="ltr">> only estimate a 10-15 degree jump.?Maybe I should go back to the old <br></div><div dir="ltr">> springs.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> >>The springs should just change what RPM it takes to get to full advance<br></div><div dir="ltr">> but the full advance should be the same (weights against the stops).?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> I'm a little unclear on how much you changed the timing, it sounds like<br></div><div dir="ltr">> you had to retard the timing after the spring replacement - this would<br></div><div dir="ltr">> also retard the "all in" timing, which would be what you're running at<br></div><div dir="ltr">> 3200 RPM.? It's possible it's worse at 3200 now than it was before<br></div><div dir="ltr">> because the full advance timing is now less.<<<br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/5376e9b5/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/5376e9b5/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 10<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 12:34:10 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Greg Lemon <<a href="mailto:grglmn@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">grglmn@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Yeah Spring!<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:CAFtw3aZ21Em0vvZdukt462fKOXBsTWAkhe19rHVoBDZbi9VPKw@mail.gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CAFtw3aZ21Em0vvZdukt462fKOXBsTWAkhe19rHVoBDZbi9VPKw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I finally had some time to work on the Triumph today after a long time<br></div><div dir="ltr">spent working on the new old house we bought. I am pretty sure the<br></div><div dir="ltr">occasional miss and rough running is fixed.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The PCV valve is a press fit into the intake manifold. Over the fifty plus<br></div><div dir="ltr">years of use the press fit isn't so tight, and it has been coming out or<br></div><div dir="ltr">loose, resulting in a fairly major vacuum leak.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I wired it on, thought it looked janky, thought about shims or machining<br></div><div dir="ltr">for an o-ring (probably the best solution tight fit and no leaks), but not<br></div><div dir="ltr">having the equipment for making an o-ring groove, so ended up sticking a<br></div><div dir="ltr">greasy rag in the hole to catch swarf and drilling a hole for a set screw.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Functional, seems to be running much better, but the problem was<br></div><div dir="ltr">intermittent so time will tell.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Mostly just excited to have the new shop done and and time to work on the<br></div><div dir="ltr">car again.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Greg Lemon<br></div><div dir="ltr">TR250<br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/59e4f52b/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/59e4f52b/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">Name: IMG_20200229_114909661.jpg<br></div><div dir="ltr">Type: image/jpeg<br></div><div dir="ltr">Size: 1486143 bytes<br></div><div dir="ltr">Desc: not available<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/59e4f52b/attachment-0001.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/59e4f52b/attachment-0001.jpg</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 11<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 12:36:31 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Greg Lemon <<a href="mailto:grglmn@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">grglmn@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Mark J Bradakis <<a href="mailto:mark@bradakis.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mark@bradakis.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Solid or wires<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <CAFtw3aY6K4ZyMQLHSheYiSHdO864i35dnsG44V1tm+hBMJ=<a href="mailto:e9Q@mail.gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">e9Q@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You see the early 6s with wires more often. I think they look ok, but the<br></div><div dir="ltr">stock wheels or panasports are more appropriate for the 70s vibe the car<br></div><div dir="ltr">has going.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Greg Lemon<br></div><div dir="ltr">TR250<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 10:43 AM Mark J Bradakis <<a href="mailto:mark@bradakis.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mark@bradakis.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On 2/29/20 9:29 AM, Bob wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ><br></div><div dir="ltr">> > Brian,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ><br></div><div dir="ltr">> > I went with Superlites for my 72 6. Wires on my 63 4 and stock wheels<br></div><div dir="ltr">> > on my 3. All look great. I have never seen a 6 with wires.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> My very early '69 TR6, CC25064 had wires on it, with Michelin Redlines.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Wish I had pictures of it, great car while it lasted.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> mjb.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/174addb2/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200229/174addb2/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 12<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 18:54:55 +0000<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: John Macartney <<a href="mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Mark J Bradakis <<a href="mailto:mark@bradakis.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mark@bradakis.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Solid or wires<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:44D80501-A076-4732-B8B8-66AD4A8BD416@Ukpips.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">44D80501-A076-4732-B8B8-66AD4A8BD416@Ukpips.org.uk</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">ISTR that when I worked in the Export Dept at Standard Triumph five decades ago, the majority of TRs regardless of model, went to the US and Canada with wire wheels as production fitted extras. Similar for Spitfire and GT6. Can?t now remember the split between painted and chrome. Later, when I was selling them to North American visitors from the London showroom, as salesmen we did our damndest to ensure each car had wire wheels and overdrive too. The wires made the car look better and the overdrive made a straight four on the floor far less enjoyable than a seven speeder. And of course, the xtra sales commission was an important ingredient.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jonmac<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">At the Battle of Waterloo, 1815:<br></div><div dir="ltr">Lord Uxbridge: ?By God, Sir - I?ve lost my leg?<br></div><div dir="ltr">Duke of Wellington: ?By God, Sir - so you have!?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On 29 Feb 2020, at 16:43, Mark J Bradakis <<a href="mailto:mark@bradakis.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mark@bradakis.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> On 2/29/20 9:29 AM, Bob wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Brian,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I went with Superlites for my 72 6. Wires on my 63 4 and stock wheels on my 3. All look great. I have never seen a 6 with wires.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> My very early '69 TR6, CC25064 had wires on it, with Michelin Redlines. Wish I had pictures of it, great car while it lasted.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> mjb.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Digest Footer<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Triumphs mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">End of Triumphs Digest, Vol 13, Issue 54<br></div><div dir="ltr">****************************************<br></div></div>
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