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On Friday, February 7, 2020, 02:03:33 PM EST, <triumphs-request@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:triumphs-request@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-request@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="mailto:triumphs-owner@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-owner@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Today's Topics:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> 1. Craigslist (Ron L'Herault)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 2. Fwd: Carlisle Import & Performance (Paul Tegler)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 3. Group 44 Spitfire on eBay (Don Hiscock)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 4. Re: Oil Pan Sealer? (Darrell Walker)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 5. Re: Oil Pan Sealer? (tom boggiano)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:10:41 -0500<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Ron L'Herault" <<a href="mailto:lherault@verizon.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lherault@verizon.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Craigslist<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <008301d5dd21$205861a0$610924e0$@net><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Facebook Marketplace may be filling the need for a place to sell parts as<br></div><div dir="ltr">well as entire cars.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Ron L<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 23:19:15 -0500<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Paul Tegler <<a href="mailto:ptegler@verizon.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ptegler@verizon.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Fwd: Carlisle Import & Performance<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:d2d0635b-f072-a5b2-01bf-38ea89b1fcae@verizon.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">d2d0635b-f072-a5b2-01bf-38ea89b1fcae@verizon.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hey all....? invites going out to any spit/GT6er's out there.... <br></div><div dir="ltr">Carlisle Imports how in May<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Even if you're only coming up for the main Saterday show field, list the <br></div><div dir="ltr">NA Spit Squadron as<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">your club and come join us on the field! Any spits/GT6's are welcome to <br></div><div dir="ltr">join our growing display!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">v/r<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">ptegler<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">**<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*January Club Leader Update*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*_Carlisle Import and Performance Nationals ? May 15-17 _*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Dear Club Leader,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hopefully you are staying warm and enjoyed the holidays!? Before you <br></div><div dir="ltr">know it we will once again be in car show season.? Here at Carlisle <br></div><div dir="ltr">Events, we are getting ready for what will hopefully be another great <br></div><div dir="ltr">event and we have some exciting stuff for you to share with your club.? <br></div><div dir="ltr">We also have some new clubs to welcome since the last club leader update.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*_Carlisle Import and Performance Nationals Supports Driven to Cure in <br></div><div dir="ltr">2020!_*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">As you may have seen right before the holidays, we are working with <br></div><div dir="ltr">Driven to Cure to organize a memorial show within our show for its <br></div><div dir="ltr">founder, Andrew Lee. Driven to Cure will have a display in Building Y <br></div><div dir="ltr">and a dedicated Showfield near the pavilion for their show within our <br></div><div dir="ltr">own show.? Find out more in the following link: <br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.carlisleevents.com/events/events-detail/index?id=import+and+performance+nationals&urlname=support-the-cause-in-2020 " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.carlisleevents.com/events/events-detail/index?id=import+and+performance+nationals&urlname=support-the-cause-in-2020 </a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlisleevents.com%2Fevents%2Fevents-detail%2Findex%3Fid%3Dimport%2Band%2Bperformance%2Bnationals%26urlname%3Dsupport-the-cause-in-2020&data=02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607682427&sdata=nuXWvKYpsZNS5GJWq81qaF2dmSYpeXt7fYrjd76Azak%3D&reserved=0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlisleevents.com%2Fevents%2Fevents-detail%2Findex%3Fid%3Dimport%2Band%2Bperformance%2Bnationals%26urlname%3Dsupport-the-cause-in-2020&data=02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607682427&sdata=nuXWvKYpsZNS5GJWq81qaF2dmSYpeXt7fYrjd76Azak%3D&reserved=0</a>>*__*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*__*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*_2020 Displays Announced:_*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">We will be hosting a number of displays, anniversaries, and reunions <br></div><div dir="ltr">this year.? They are as follows:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> * 100 Years of Mazda in Building T<br></div><div dir="ltr"> * 50 Years of BBS in Building T<br></div><div dir="ltr"> * 50 Years of the Nissan Z / Datsun Z in Building T<br></div><div dir="ltr"> * The Annual Race Paddock in the Pavilion<br></div><div dir="ltr"> * Renault of Canada and Cars of Robert Opron (Citroens & Renaults) in<br></div><div dir="ltr"> Building R<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Applications are now being accepted through Early March.? Those who wish <br></div><div dir="ltr">to apply can do so on www.CarlisleFeatures.com <br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.CarlisleFeatures.com&data=02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607692416&sdata=sPaLXZsMXkKhGWe%2BVzzHClCkbwp1n25aYTF%2BhSN7%2FI8%3D&reserved=0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.CarlisleFeatures.com&data=02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607692416&sdata=sPaLXZsMXkKhGWe%2BVzzHClCkbwp1n25aYTF%2BhSN7%2FI8%3D&reserved=0</a>>. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*_2020 Club Planning Packets and Tent Forms Now Available Online!_*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To avoid club tent forms from ending up in Spam Folders, we have now <br></div><div dir="ltr">released them to be downloaded from the following links:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">For Clubs that Met the 25 Car Requirement for a Free Tent Last Year <br></div><div dir="ltr">please use this form:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.carlisleevents.com/docs/default-source/import-performance-nationals/carlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-free.pdf " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.carlisleevents.com/docs/default-source/import-performance-nationals/carlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-free.pdf </a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlisleevents.com%2Fdocs%2Fdefault-source%2Fimport-performance-nationals%2Fcarlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-free.pdf&data=02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607692416&sdata=38YieP1eQ6OfRB%2FasELoYCPUs5yEOSl5B0Js%2F84WWnQ%3D&reserved=0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlisleevents.com%2Fdocs%2Fdefault-source%2Fimport-performance-nationals%2Fcarlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-free.pdf&data=02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607692416&sdata=38YieP1eQ6OfRB%2FasELoYCPUs5yEOSl5B0Js%2F84WWnQ%3D&reserved=0</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">__<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">For Clubs that did not hit the 25 Car Requirement and new clubs, please <br></div><div dir="ltr">use this form for the $180 Tent Rental:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.carlisleeventscom/docs/default-source/import-performance-nationals/carlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-180.pdf " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.carlisleeventscom/docs/default-source/import-performance-nationals/carlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-180.pdf </a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlisleevents.com%2Fdocs%2Fdefault-source%2Fimport-performance-nationals%2Fcarlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-180.pdf&data=02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607702407&sdata=DdKnDkbwjYKFip8eItlxIFuWdvVZpu0lRQ0rT40%2BP2k%3D&reserved=0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carlisleevents.com%2Fdocs%2Fdefault-source%2Fimport-performance-nationals%2Fcarlisle-events-club-planning-kit-ipn-180.pdf&data=02%7C01%7CKenA%40carlisleevents.com%7Cd9f21705a9b4411a7ec408d799089d3d%7C391f7f7ff8be4ad0bbacb0652487540b%7C0%7C1%7C637146134607702407&sdata=DdKnDkbwjYKFip8eItlxIFuWdvVZpu0lRQ0rT40%2BP2k%3D&reserved=0</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">__<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">If you?re unsure if your club hit 25 Cars in 2019, please feel free to <br></div><div dir="ltr">reach out to me and we can look at your registrations.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*_2020 Import and Performance Nationals Flyers Available!_*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">If you and/or your club would like a box of Carlisle Import and <br></div><div dir="ltr">Performance Nationals flyers sent to you, please reply to this email <br></div><div dir="ltr">with your mailing address and count needed.? These are not only great <br></div><div dir="ltr">for keeping your members in the loop on your attendance at the show <br></div><div dir="ltr">during club meetings but also for goody bag inserts for your club?s show <br></div><div dir="ltr">or upcoming meet!? We have a couple thousand in stock right now so feel <br></div><div dir="ltr">free to reach out.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*_New Track Activity Coming Soon!_*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks to many survey responses over the off-season, 2020 will see new <br></div><div dir="ltr">track activities and you don?t have to have a racecar to compete!? Keep <br></div><div dir="ltr">an eye on our social media feeds and our website for the coming release!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*_We want to connect with your Club?s Facebook Pages and Events!_*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">There is no denying Facebook has become a medium that many of you and <br></div><div dir="ltr">your members use to communicate on daily basis.? We want to connect our <br></div><div dir="ltr">page with your club and your club?s Event Page for the Import and <br></div><div dir="ltr">Performance Nationals.? Our social media team is looking to connect so <br></div><div dir="ltr">your club has the latest info and can answer questions quickly for you.? <br></div><div dir="ltr">If you have a club Facebook Page or Group, please share it with <br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:Clubs@CarlisleEvents.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Clubs@CarlisleEvents.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Clubs@CarlisleEvents.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Clubs@CarlisleEvents.com</a>> so we can <br></div><div dir="ltr">include you in this program.? This includes your Carlisle Import and <br></div><div dir="ltr">Performance Nationals Facebook events that many of you have already setup!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">In closing and as always, if you have any questions comments or <br></div><div dir="ltr">concerns, my door is always open.? Feel free to reach out via email or <br></div><div dir="ltr">phone as well as stop in if you are in the area.? We are here to make <br></div><div dir="ltr">sure your club has the best time possible at our event!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thank you and I look forward to seeing you in May!!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Ed<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*email-logo***<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*Ed Buczeskie*| /Event Manager/<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Email: <a href="mailto:EdB@CarlisleEvents.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">EdB@CarlisleEvents.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:edb@carlisleevents.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">edb@carlisleevents.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Office: *717-243-7855 x131*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Fax: *717-243-0255*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">1000 Bryn Mawr Road, Carlisle PA 17013<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">*CarlisleEvents.com <<a href="http://www.carlisleevents.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.carlisleevents.com/</a>>*| <br></div><div dir="ltr">*CarlisleAuctions.com <<a href="http://www.carlisleauctions.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.carlisleauctions.com/</a>>*<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">**<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Event Schedule <<a href="http://www.carlisleevents.com/pdf/Event-Schedule.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.carlisleevents.com/pdf/Event-Schedule.pdf</a>> | <br></div><div dir="ltr">Facebook <br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="http://www.carlisleevents.com/join-the-conversation/default.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.carlisleevents.com/join-the-conversation/default.aspx</a>>|Twitter <br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://twitter.com/CarlisleEvents" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CarlisleEvents</a>>|YouTube <br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/CarProDotCom/videos" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/user/CarProDotCom/videos</a>>| Event Photos <br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/carlisle-events/sets" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.flickr.com/photos/carlisle-events/sets</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200206/fff66018/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200206/fff66018/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">Name: image001.png<br></div><div dir="ltr">Type: image/png<br></div><div dir="ltr">Size: 26993 bytes<br></div><div dir="ltr">Desc: not available<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200206/fff66018/attachment-0001.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200206/fff66018/attachment-0001.png</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">Name: image002.gif<br></div><div dir="ltr">Type: image/gif<br></div><div dir="ltr">Size: 6156 bytes<br></div><div dir="ltr">Desc: not available<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200206/fff66018/attachment-0001.gif" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200206/fff66018/attachment-0001.gif</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 3<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 06:16:30 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Don Hiscock <<a href="mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Triumphs <<a href="mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Group 44 Spitfire on eBay<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:CAPK7CFDiu4MTx7V4-cnFa1cJgkbMpuY7-eiTGCAH3xthF0Ujtg@mail.gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CAPK7CFDiu4MTx7V4-cnFa1cJgkbMpuY7-eiTGCAH3xthF0Ujtg@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">For everyone's info. This is a fun one.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/124069288168" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ebay.com/itm/124069288168</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200207/3a684388/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200207/3a684388/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 4<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 15:02:16 -0800<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Darrell Walker <<a href="mailto:darrellw360@mac.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">darrellw360@mac.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Randall <<a href="mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>, bill beecher <<a href="mailto:bill_beecher@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bill_beecher@flash.net</a>>,<br></div><div dir="ltr"> DAVID MASSEY <<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Oil Pan Sealer?<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:6F7D0F84-320B-44ED-81DD-A63B7A2E1DC9@mac.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">6F7D0F84-320B-44ED-81DD-A63B7A2E1DC9@mac.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On Feb 5, 2020, at 2:47 PM, Randall <<a href="mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> I know Justin Wagner tried to do a silicone TR2-4 pan gasket, and it didn't work out. Not sure what the issue was. He did mention the need for steel inserts to keep the gasket from being crushed, which might mean a thicker gasket and problems with things that bolt to the bottom of the pan (like the clutch slave brace). But that's just a guess, I never heard the details.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ? Randall<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I actually have one of Justin?s gaskets on my car. It came with some spring-loaded bolts (Thackary?) and safety wire. It seems to work well. Mine is on an alloy sump. 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There were a couple of challenges You could not over tighten the bolts and therefore there was a safety wire that had to be used to keep the bolts from backing out <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The pan is a bit lower and the slave cylinder bracket was not quite right <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">But, the kit came with all the parts to install and it took care of the non flat pan issues I had. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Tom<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On Feb 5, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Randall <<a href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> ?I know Justin Wagner tried to do a silicone TR2-4 pan gasket, and it didn't work out. Not sure what the issue was. He did mention the need for steel inserts to keep the gasket from being crushed, which might mean a thicker gasket and problems with things that bolt to the bottom of the pan (like the clutch slave brace). But that's just a guess, I never heard the details.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> -- Randall<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> On 5 February 2020 07:21:52 GMT-08:00, bill beecher <<a href="mailto:bill_beecher@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bill_beecher@flash.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Thanks Dave, I was thinking about Joe too. Joe, how about it?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Bill<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> From: DAVID MASSEY [mailto:<a href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>] <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:26 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> To: <a href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>; <a href="mailto:bill_beecher@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bill_beecher@flash.net</a>; <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil Pan Sealer?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> A couple advisories about using RTV that I have picked up over the years. <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Not all RTV sealants are the same. Some are oil resistant and others are not. "Automotive" RTV may not be oil resistant and are intended for sealing windshields and such. Check the manufacturer's website. Ultra Black, I believe, is oil resistant. None, as far as I know, are gasoline resistant.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> When using RTV sealants, apply an even bead and assemble the parts loosely and let the sealant partially set before tightening. This will reduce the tendency for the sealant to ooze out strings and dingleberries which can clog the oil passages in the engine causing all manner of expensive problems.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> When using RTV in the absence of a gasket lay a piece of thread or string along the joint to prevent metal-to-metal contact ensuring that there is a layer of sealant at all points along the joint.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> As for me, I prefer to use Formagasket #2 on one side to stick the gasket (more or less) permanently to one part and Hylomar non hardening to allow for easy removal/resintallation. Until Joe Alexander produces a silicone sump gasket I will continue to do so. ;-)<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Dave<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> -----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> From: Alex & Janet Thomson <<a href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> To: 'bill beecher' <<a href="mailto:bill_beecher@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bill_beecher@flash.net</a>>; 'Triumphs' <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2020 7:18 pm<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil Pan Sealer?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I have had good results with Permatex ?Ultra Black? gasket maker. Part # 82180. I seem to remember that years ago, there was only Permatex #1 which was hardening and #2 which remained slightly pliable. Now, it seems that there is a gasket goop for white cars travelling north with 6 cyl. engines, a different product for dark color cars travelling east with 4 cyl. engines, etc., etc. The choices on the rack at the local NAPA store can be overwhelming, just like the varieties of Loctite that you can buy.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I have found that many gaskets for tractor restoration are no longer available from anyone and that the gasket-in-a-tube is the only alternative. Sometimes, it is one casting being sealed against another casting ? in those cases, a very small bead is needed. When there is a pressed steel cover being assembled to a casting, you know that there will be much more of a chance for a warped or bent interface which will require a thicker bead. But we all know that many engine and other drivetrain problems are the result of excess gasket goop becoming entangled into suction screens, bearings, oil galleries and other places. Truthfully, I always get very nervous when I am repairing somebody?s tractor or whatever and I see ribbons of blue RTV sealer inside of a compartment. I?m sure that many leaks are the result of deformed oil pans, valve covers, tappet covers, etc. due to a previous ?mechanic? overtightening bolts. ?If 20 ft.-lbs. are good, then 40 must be better? Unless you have access <br></div><div dir="ltr"> to a granite or cast iron surface plate, it can be difficult to determine if an oil pan is warped. Years ago when I was teaching in the shop, I would use the surface of our big table saw (all cast iron) as a makeshift surface plate when checking small parts for flatness.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Alex Thomson<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> From: Triumphs [mailto:<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of bill beecher<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 7:32 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> To: 'Triumphs'<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Subject: [TR] Oil Pan Sealer?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Replacing the TR3 oil pan after a fresh powder coating and wondering about the best sealer. My first thought is a bead of RTV on each side of the gasket, what is the collective wisdom of the List on this? BTW, both surfaces are in excellent condition.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Bill<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> TS30800L<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tboggiano@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tboggiano@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200205/d707c2ca/attachment-0001.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20200205/d707c2ca/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Digest Footer<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Triumphs mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">End of Triumphs Digest, Vol 13, Issue 33<br></div><div dir="ltr">****************************************<br></div></div>
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