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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And, to belabor the point to a fare thee well, I have roll-started old, generator equipped trucks that had either completely dead or even no batteries. The residual magnetism in the fields of an old generator can produce sufficient charging voltage to provide ignition current. Not so with alternators!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But it is true that “dead” batteries can recover sufficiently to feed the coil. And thinking of driving techniques, parking a vehicle anticipating how it should be positioned for easy starting is sort of like anticipating how you will turn around when driving an empty, 2WD pickup when there is snow on the ground!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alex Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 30, 2020 9:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> Randall<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Clear/Amber Fog<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I've had cars in the past, Randall, where I'd choose the shutoff point so it was pointed a bit downhill when I got back to it. We don't need no stinkin' starter motors!<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 7:57 AM Randall <<a href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><br>> You're right! I forgot about the crank. But then you would <br>> need magneto ignition when the battery was stone cold dead.<br><br>True, but very rarely is the battery stone cold dead (unless you left the<br>lights on). With points (unlike many electronic ignitions), the engine will<br>still fire at cranking speeds even with the battery discharged below the<br>point where it's normally considered "dead". Lead acid batteries even<br>recover (just a little) when sitting idle; so if the engine was running when<br>you got home, there is almost certain to be enough left to fire the plugs<br>the next morning.<br><br>But when I used to fight with the lack of generator capacity, many years<br>ago, I didn't own a hand crank. So I got adept at push-starting the car by<br>myself. Probably couldn't do it today, though.<br><br>-- Randall<br><br>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>