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<DIV>Friends,</DIV>
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<DIV>Years ago (mid 70’s) I was given a TR6 with a blown engine. Didn’t know why
the engine had gone bad. The previous / previous owner had taken it to
shop for some reason and they did a Valve Job. A friend bought it and we swapped
some stuff and I ended up with the car. Pulled the engine and found the rod
bearings badly worn, one was blue from heat and at least 1 rod needed re-sized
along with a crank regrind. Put it all back together, fired it up and began
driving it. Checked the oil a week later and it was UP not down. Smelled it and
strong gasoline smell. Turns out the cause of everything was a stock fuel pump;
pumping gas into the crankcase and thinning the oil. Promptly replaced the pump
with a new stock one and drove the car for several months until I sold it. I had
my 4A and didn’t need 2 TR’s at the time. I liked that car but it was starting
to rust in all the logical places. Moral is smell your oil every time you check
it.</DIV>
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<DIV>JVV</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dave1massey@cs.com>DAVID
MASSEY</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 6, 2020 7:47 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=elliottr@rmi.net>elliottr@rmi.net</A> ; <A
title=triumphs@autox.team.net>triumphs@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [TR] [6pack] TR250/TR6 fuel pumps</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>Those SU pumps had a major weakness, the points. The
points get dirty and no longer conduct current to the coil. The modern
after market pumps are electronic and have no such problem. Plus, these
new pumps have no seals or diaphragms that can cause a leak. I've had two
mechanical pumps fail on me although not the catastrophic failure where your
crankcase gets filled with gasoline. Not a possibility with an electric
pump.</FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="CLEAR: both"><FONT size=4>Dave </FONT><BR><BR></DIV>
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Message-----<BR>From: Roger Elliott <elliottr@rmi.net><BR>To: triumphs
<triumphs@autox.team.net><BR>Sent: Sun, Jan 5, 2020 3:58 pm<BR>Subject:
Re: [TR] [6pack] TR250/TR6 fuel pumps<BR><BR>
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<DIV>We go on a drive (400 - 600 miles) every year with a bunch of MGs,
which come electric pumps, and Triumphs. Most, if not all, MGs carry a spare
electric pump that they can put in line quickly if one fails. It hasn't
happened in the last few years, but for quite a while it was normal for for at
least one electric pump to go out on the drive. There has never been a
mechanical pump failure that I recall.<BR clear=none></DIV>
<DIV>I think, we have replaced the mechanical pump in my Spitfire and my wife's
TR250 once each in over 30 years of owning both of them. Although, I did have to
repair the one on the TR250, by staking the valve in place.<BR clear=none></DIV>
<DIV>I am happy with the mechanical ones.<BR clear=none></DIV>
<DIV>Roger<BR clear=none></DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv8696829280moz-cite-prefix>On 1/5/20 8:42 AM, DAVID MASSEY
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<DIV><FONT size=3>+1</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>I've run the same electric pump on my TR6 since the 1990's and
it hasn't missed a beat (no pun intended).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>That said, I still have the original style pump on the TR3 for
concours reasons.</FONT><BR clear=none></DIV>
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<DIV style="CLEAR: both"><FONT size=4>Dave </FONT><BR clear=none><BR
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Message-----<BR clear=none>From: Bob via 6pack <A
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<DIV>Dennis,</DIV>
<DIV>I know this issue has been thrown around since the lists started but why
not convert to an electronic pump? I have been running an electronic pump on my
3 for 20 years, my 4 for 15 and my 6 for 10. Zero issues. And no oil leaks from
the pump or where it attaches to the block. No worry if the cam is too warn out
to operate the lever.</DIV>
<DIV>Bob<BR clear=none></DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv8696829280MsoNormal> Does anybody know what the
difference is between the fuel pump that Moss sells for $29.99 and the </DIV>
<DIV class=yiv8696829280MsoNormal>one that the Roadster Factory sells for $99
(besides the $70 price discrepancy)? They appear the same </DIV>
<DIV class=yiv8696829280MsoNormal>in the catalogs. I have traditionally bought
from TRF and I believe the one they sell is made in Italy? Can </DIV>
<DIV class=yiv8696829280MsoNormal>the recently retired Peter Arkelian shed any
light on this? Thanks. </DIV>
<DIV class=yiv8696829280MsoNormal>Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6
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