<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Brian,<div>It comes down to do you want to be right, or get a title and tags for your car.  Bill<br><br><div dir="ltr">Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......BWS</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><div dir="ltr">
  
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    This was the mid 1990's.  I talked to the CA DMV on the phone before
    buying the car and in person when I went to transfer the car.  They
    insisted that the Oh was not valid in a VIN and it had to be a
    zero.  Realized reality didn't matter with the DMV and it wasn't
    worth trying to be right with the facts.  Since my car has be a CA
    car since new, I'd guess when initially titled in 1972, they marked
    it as a zero.<br>
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    Brian<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/7/2019 4:27 AM, Reihing, Randall
      S. wrote:<br>
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        <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">How does changing the
          "O" to a "0" on the paper title, match the "O"  on the riveted
          metal plate still on the car itself? How is it legal to have a
          title with a VIN that does not match the VIN on the
          vehicle's riveted metal plate?</p>
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        <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Randall Reihing</p>
        <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">1960 TR3A</p>
        <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">1959 TR3A</p>
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      <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
          Triumphs <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"><triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net></a> on behalf of
          Brian Kemp <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bk13@earthlink.net"><bk13@earthlink.net></a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:50:45 PM<br>
          <b>To:</b> Andrew Uprichard <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net"><auprichard@uprichard.net></a>;
          'Triumphs' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"><triumphs@autox.team.net></a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs</font>
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      <div style="background-color:#FFFFFF">My California TR6 title also
        ends L0 - L zero.  I told them it should be an Oh for Overdrive,
        but they said I couldn't have an Oh and I was wrong.  Not worth
        having an argument with the DMV.  The insurance company was fine
        with whatever the title said.<br>
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        Brian<br>
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        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 11/6/2019 1:13 PM, Andrew
          Uprichard wrote:<br>
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            <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">I just went to get a
                title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive.  The
                old title appropriately ended “LO”, but I was told that
                “Os” and “Is” are no longer acceptable in titles.  So I
                had to change the VIN (on the title) to “L0”.  Then I
                had to call the insurance company to explain the same
                story to them and have them send me a proof of insurance
                with “L0”.</span></p>
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            <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">Anyone else come
                across this?  Maybe it has been going on for years:  I
                have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first
                factory one.</span></p>
            <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style=""> </span></p>
            <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">Andrew Uprichard</span></p>
            <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">Jackson, MI</span></p>
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