<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Recently went through the “no-title-title” process in Texas. Trailered the car three hours away to have a special DPS officer look at the engine number and give me a form, 5 minutes. Don’t know the reasoning, didn’t ask questions, but in Texas they title from the engine number in cars 1954 and older except for Fords. <div><br></div><div>IMHO when it comes to older cars, most DMV systems have a way to work around the variants, i.e. 0 v O. Just don’t go to the wrong window at the wrong office on the wrong day. </div><div><br></div><div>Bill<br><br><div dir="ltr">Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......BWS</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 7, 2019, at 7:14 AM, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><div dir="ltr">
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An agency that records VIN's, doesn't accept a legitimate VIN????
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Why am I reminded of the man who had to prove to the Social Security Administration that he wasn't dead?
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<p class="ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1f497d;">That’s the whole point. And there is also the insurance company’s note – should it have what is on the vin plate or what in on the title?\ </span></p>
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<p class="ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1f497d;">But you are in Ohio, Randall – maybe they are more understanding there !!<br><br>Andrew </span></p>
<p class="ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1f497d;">Jackson, Michigan – where the “law” is: no “Os” on titles </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">How does changing the "O" to a "0" on the paper title, match the "O" on the riveted metal plate still on the car itself? How is it legal to have a title with a VIN that does not match the VIN on the vehicle's riveted metal plate? </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">1960 TR3A </span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; background: white;" class="ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal">My California TR6 title also ends L0 - L zero. I told them it should be an Oh for Overdrive, but they said I couldn't have an Oh and I was wrong. Not worth having an argument with the DMV. The insurance company was fine with whatever the title said.<br><br>Brian</p>
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<p style="background: white;" class="ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive. The old title appropriately ended “LO”, but I was told that “Os” and “Is” are no longer acceptable in titles. So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to “L0”. Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the same story to them and have them send me a proof of insurance with “L0”.</p>
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<p style="background: white;" class="ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">Anyone else come across this? Maybe it has been going on for years: I have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.</p>
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