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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jonas,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>My Morgan is one of hundreds with the same 17 digit VIN. Seems when they ordered the blank VIN plates there was a sample number inserted that got replicated. Had a brief skirmish with the insurance company before getting a letter from MMC explaining it. DMV used the 5 digit chassis number without any questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>jpaynepbr@cox.net<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Andrew Uprichard' <auprichard@uprichard.net>; 'Triumphs' <triumphs@autox.team.net>; 6pack@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] VINs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have seen many mangled “VIN Numbers” on vintage car titles.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Apparently when DMV’s across the country became computerized, there was no standard on how to input 17 digits in on a title for a car with a 4 or 5 digit serial number. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The solution for my 1960 Morgan registered in Hawaii was to insert 13 zeros in front of the 4 digit serial number.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I had a 1964 AH 3000 with a CA title that was AHEALEYBJ then the body tag number<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jonas Payne<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>PBR Consulting Services, LLC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>702.882.6711<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i>We have Moved!<o:p></o:p></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>Our new offices are locted at:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>3191 E. Warm Springs Rd. #13<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Las Vegas, NV 89120<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Uprichard<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Triumphs' <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>; <a href="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net">6pack@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] VINs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive. The old title appropriately ended “LO”, but I was told that “Os” and “Is” are no longer acceptable in titles. So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to “L0”. Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the same story to them and have them send me a proof of insurance with “L0”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Anyone else come across this? Maybe it has been going on for years: I have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Jackson, MI<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>