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    <p>Geez yes!  You do NOT want a valve open when you use the rope to
      push the head up.  I'm not sure how you'd get the head nuts off
      without removing the rocker shaft, but you certainly want the
      valves closed or you have a very good chance of damaging an open
      valve.</p>
    <p>- Tony Drews<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/8/2019 5:03 PM, TERRY SMITH wrote:<br>
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      <p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial,
        sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Haven't heard it mentioned,
        so question.  When using the "rope trick," would it be wise to
        remove the pedestal for the rocker arms first so's to avoid
        damaging valves?</p>
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        sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Terry</p>
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      <p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial,
        sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">On September 3, 2019 at
        6:26 PM "Glenn A. Merrell"
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:controls@freelanceconsulting.net"><controls@freelanceconsulting.net></a> wrote: <br>
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          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style="color:
              #1f497d;">Stag and TR7 heads are no longer an issue. </span></p>
          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style="color:
              #1f497d;">   </span></p>
          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style="color:
              #1f497d;">There are cylinder head tools available that
              lift off even the most corroded heads off a Stag or TR7
              engine in 30 minutes or less with no damage, actually
              taking more time to install and remove the tool than it
              takes to  lifting the head.  That is the first and last
              tool to use, all other methods are rendered obsolete and
              typically damage something else in the process. </span></p>
          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style="color:
              #1f497d;">Use of the tool is free excepting you pay round
              trip shipping of the tool and replace anything you lose or
              break on the tool. </span></p>
          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style="color:
              #1f497d;">Cheers! </span></p>
          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style="color:
              #1f497d;">   </span></p>
          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style="color:
              #1f497d;">Glenn Merrell  </span></p>
          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style="color:
              #1f497d;">aka StagByTriumph Garage (<em>now on FaceBook</em>)
            </span></p>
          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style="color:
              #1f497d;">Remember, “the BEST trophies are: Miles on the
              Odometer; Stone chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the
              windscreen … with the occasional smell of manure!” </span></p>
          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style="color:
              #1f497d;">   </span></p>
          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style="color:
              #1f497d;">   </span></p>
          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"
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              <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><strong><span
                    style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
                    'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span
                  style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
                  'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Triumphs
                  [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <strong>On
                    Behalf Of </strong>Randall<br>
                  <strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, September 3, 2019
                  12:10 PM<br>
                  <strong>To:</strong> Paul Dorsey; Triumph list
                  Team.net<br>
                  <strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TR] rope trick thingy </span></p>
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          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal">The “rope trick” is for
            emergencies, when you just can’t get the head off any other
            way.  In that case, chances are good that the liners are so
            stuck they don’t need to be retained.  But also, IMO, if
            it’s that bad, it’s time to pull the liners anyway (in which
            case they don’t need to be retained either).</p>
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          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal">I’ve taken apart some
            pretty sad TR3 motors, and never had to resort to the “rope
            trick”.  Getting the head off a Stag or TR7 can be a real
            challenge, but the TR3 has never been a problem for me.</p>
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          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal">- Randall</p>
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            <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><strong>From: </strong><a
                href="mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Paul
                Dorsey</a><br>
              <strong>Sent: </strong>Monday, September 2, 2019 9:38 PM<br>
              <strong>To: </strong><a href="mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">Me</a>; <a
                href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"
                moz-do-not-send="true">Triumph list Team.net</a><br>
              <strong>Subject: </strong>[TR] rope trick thingy</p>
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          <p class="ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal">Is the rope trick the thing
            where you put the rope in the cylinder down the spark  plug
            hole and then turn the engine so that the piston breaks the
            head gasket seal?  I thought someone said not to turn over
            the engine?</p>
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