<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1982 TR8. This, after much thought and deliberation since last year, I’ve decided to sell.Yes, I know October 1981 was the last, but here in Canada the Triumph dealers ordered a bunch in 1981. Allowing them into Canada in1982 I understand with the capitol C part of the serial number. I’m posting this to our site here before listing in the usual places. Further details to be forwarded to genuine interest.</div><div class="">Mike Coe. <a href="mailto:coefront@shaw.ca" class="">coefront@shaw.ca</a>. Calgary. Alberta</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:00 PM, <a href="mailto:triumphs-request@autox.team.net" class="">triumphs-request@autox.team.net</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" class="">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br class=""><br class="">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs<br class="">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>triumphs-request@autox.team.net<br class=""><br class="">You can reach the person managing the list at<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>triumphs-owner@autox.team.net<br class=""><br class="">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..."<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Today's Topics:<br class=""><br class=""> 1. 81 TR7 question (Jim Henningsen)<br class=""> 2. Re: 81 TR7 question (Roger Elliott)<br class=""> 3. Re: 81 TR7 question (Darrell Walker)<br class=""> 4. Re: 81 TR7 question (Darrell Walker)<br class=""> 5. Re: 81 TR7 question (Stan Foster)<br class=""> 6. Re: 81 TR7 question (Darrell Walker)<br class=""> 7. Re: 81 TR7 question (Stan Foster)<br class=""> 8. Re: 81 TR7 question (Alex & Janet Thomson)<br class=""> 9. Re: 81 TR7 question (Jim Henningsen)<br class=""> 10. Re: 81 TR7 question (alan salvatore)<br class=""> 11. Re: TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs (Robert Rochlin)<br class=""> 12. Re: TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs (TERRY SMITH)<br class=""> 13. Re: TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs (DAVID MASSEY)<br class=""> 14. Re: 81 TR7 question (Randall)<br class=""> 15. Re: TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs (dave)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 1<br class="">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 19:11:21 -0400<br class="">From: "Jim Henningsen" <trguy75@gmail.com><br class="">To: "'Triumphs'" <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class="">Message-ID: <000001d56376$111160e0$333422a0$@gmail.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain;<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>charset="us-ascii"<br class=""><br class="">Did all 81 TR7 fuel injected cars come with 85mph or could you get a 140 mph<br class="">from factory? Thanks,<br class="">Jim Henningsen<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 2<br class="">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 18:21:22 -0500<br class="">From: Roger Elliott <elliottr@rmi.net><br class="">To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class="">Message-ID: <13f8b80d-555b-c486-3f2d-0064ea4f6a14@rmi.net><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed<br class=""><br class="">There was a federal law that mandated 85 mph speedometers.?? You may <br class="">have been able to get a speedometer for a different market and install it.<br class=""><br class="">Roger<br class=""><br class="">On 9/4/19 6:11 PM, Jim Henningsen wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Did all 81 TR7 fuel injected cars come with 85mph or could you get a 140 mph<br class="">from factory? Thanks,<br class="">Jim Henningsen<br class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/elliottr@rmi.net<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 3<br class="">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 16:25:37 -0700<br class="">From: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class="">To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class="">Message-ID: <959A42D3-B9B8-4AC9-B38F-5DE290AB4E5D@mac.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain;<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>charset=us-ascii<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and eliminated on October 22, 1981. I believe any US market 81 cars were produced that late.<br class=""><br class="">-Darrell<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Roger Elliott <elliottr@rmi.net> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">There was a federal law that mandated 85 mph speedometers. You may have been able to get a speedometer for a different market and install it.<br class=""><br class="">Roger<br class=""><br class="">On 9/4/19 6:11 PM, Jim Henningsen wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Did all 81 TR7 fuel injected cars come with 85mph or could you get a 140 mph<br class="">from factory? Thanks,<br class="">Jim Henningsen<br class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/elliottr@rmi.net<br class=""></blockquote>** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/darrellw360@mac.com<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 4<br class="">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 16:27:31 -0700<br class="">From: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class="">To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class="">Message-ID: <E8AA088C-06FB-4FEC-B5BD-073C61C051E1@mac.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain;<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>charset=utf-8<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and eliminated on October 22, 1981. I believe any US market 81 cars were produced that late.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I meant to say ?I doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that late?.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 5<br class="">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 23:41:59 +0000<br class="">From: Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com><br class="">To: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com>, Triumphs<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><BN8PR05MB66924FD10D41BC2EB64A9407FEB80@BN8PR05MB6692.namprd05.prod.outlook.com><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br class=""><br class="">What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?<br class=""><br class="">Stan<br class="">________________________________<br class="">From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class="">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class="">To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and eliminated on October 22, 1981. I believe any US market 81 cars were produced that late.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I meant to say ?I doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that late?.<br class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stan@redtr6.com<br class="">-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20190904/07d2cb88/attachment-0001.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 6<br class="">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 16:46:11 -0700<br class="">From: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class="">To: Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com><br class="">Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class="">Message-ID: <6B657813-473D-430D-97AB-D393F48498A7@mac.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">The display was limited. Meaning 85 was the highest number allowed to display. The regulation also required that 55 be called out in some fashion. Note that some makers put tick marks beyond 85, just without any numbers.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?<br class=""><br class="">Stan<br class="">From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>> on behalf of Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com <mailto:darrellw360@mac.com>><br class="">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class="">To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net>><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com <mailto:darrellw360@mac.com>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and eliminated on October 22, 1981. I believe any US market 81 cars were produced that late.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I meant to say ?I doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that late?.<br class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net> **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html <http://www.team.net/donate.html><br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs <http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs> http://www.team.net/archive <http://www.team.net/archive><br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stan@redtr6.com <http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stan@redtr6.com><br class=""></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20190904/77ff8941/attachment-0001.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 7<br class="">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 23:56:51 +0000<br class="">From: Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com><br class="">To: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class="">Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><BN8PR05MB66923A58E06D43B96C0D033EFEB80@BN8PR05MB6692.namprd05.prod.outlook.com><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br class=""><br class="">Aha!. I recall with my old Morris 1000 the speedo topped out at 80mph but there was no stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was doing "half a tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset at the bottom of the speedo gauge. Half a tank would be around 100mph.<br class="">________________________________<br class="">From: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class="">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:46:11 PM<br class="">To: Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com><br class="">Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">The display was limited. Meaning 85 was the highest number allowed to display. The regulation also required that 55 be called out in some fashion. Note that some makers put tick marks beyond 85, just without any numbers.<br class=""><br class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com<mailto:stan@redtr6.com>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?<br class=""><br class="">Stan<br class="">________________________________<br class="">From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>> on behalf of Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com<mailto:darrellw360@mac.com>><br class="">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class="">To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net>><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com<mailto:darrellw360@mac.com>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and eliminated on October 22, 1981. I believe any US market 81 cars were produced that late.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I meant to say ?I doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that late?.<br class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net> **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stan@redtr6.com<br class=""><br class="">-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20190904/d955afaf/attachment-0001.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 8<br class="">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 20:07:29 -0400<br class="">From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson@charter.net><br class="">To: "'Stan Foster'" <stan@redtr6.com>, "'Darrell Walker'"<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><darrellw360@mac.com>, "'Triumphs'" <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class="">Message-ID: <008e01d5637d$e842a040$b8c7e0c0$@charter.net><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br class=""><br class="">The 4 cylinder engine!<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Alex Thomson<br class=""><br class="">71 GT6<br class=""><br class="">73 TR6<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stan<br class="">Foster<br class="">Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 7:42 PM<br class="">To: Darrell Walker; Triumphs<br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?<br class=""><br class="">Stan<br class=""><br class=""> _____ <br class=""><br class="">From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Darrell Walker<br class=""><darrellw360@mac.com><br class="">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class="">To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and<br class=""></blockquote>eliminated on October 22, 1981. I believe any US market 81 cars were<br class="">produced that late.<br class=""><br class="">I meant to say "I doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that late".<br class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage:<br class="">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stan@redtr6.com<br class=""><br class="">-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20190904/db71aea3/attachment-0001.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 9<br class="">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 20:38:23 -0400<br class="">From: Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com><br class="">To: Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com><br class="">Cc: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com>, Triumphs<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class="">Message-ID: <E6086AC4-B5D1-40AD-A798-A06F2F37E379@gmail.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">Thanks all for the feedback. I was pretty sure 85 was the max speedo limit on those. The seller of an 81 tr7 is claiming 6000 orig miles and it looks like it judging by the one year only velour but the speedo is a 140 so I question the validity despite the condition. <br class="">Jim<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPad<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Aha!. I recall with my old Morris 1000 the speedo topped out at 80mph but there was no stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was doing "half a tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset at the bottom of the speedo gauge. Half a tank would be around 100mph.<br class="">From: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class="">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:46:11 PM<br class="">To: Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com><br class="">Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">The display was limited. Meaning 85 was the highest number allowed to display. The regulation also required that 55 be called out in some fashion. Note that some makers put tick marks beyond 85, just without any numbers.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?<br class=""><br class="">Stan<br class="">From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class="">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class="">To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and eliminated on October 22, 1981. I believe any US market 81 cars were produced that late.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I meant to say ?I doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that late?.<br class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stan@redtr6.com<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com<br class=""></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20190904/c400f83d/attachment-0001.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 10<br class="">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 21:19:18 -0400<br class="">From: alan salvatore <alansalvy@gmail.com><br class="">To: Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com><br class="">Cc: Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com>, Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><CAAAEehTRsaMh0MCkaf+CkHkhBJnnay+AMJ-m4U62T7cm7EyBBg@mail.gmail.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">I used to have an 81 TR8 with 85 mph speedo, I changed it out with a 140<br class="">unit.<br class=""><br class="">On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 9:02 PM Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Thanks all for the feedback. I was pretty sure 85 was the max speedo<br class="">limit on those. The seller of an 81 tr7 is claiming 6000 orig miles and it<br class="">looks like it judging by the one year only velour but the speedo is a 140<br class="">so I question the validity despite the condition.<br class="">Jim<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPad<br class=""><br class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Aha!. I recall with my old Morris 1000 the speedo topped out at 80mph but<br class="">there was no stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was doing "half a<br class="">tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset at the bottom of the speedo<br class="">gauge. Half a tank would be around 100mph.<br class="">------------------------------<br class="">*From:* Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class="">*Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:46:11 PM<br class="">*To:* Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com><br class="">*Cc:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">*Subject:* Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">The display was limited. Meaning 85 was the highest number allowed to<br class="">display. The regulation also required that 55 be called out in some<br class="">fashion. Note that some makers put tick marks beyond 85, just without any<br class="">numbers.<br class=""><br class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?<br class=""><br class="">Stan<br class="">------------------------------<br class="">*From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Darrell<br class="">Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class="">*Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class="">*To:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">*Subject:* Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and<br class=""></blockquote>eliminated on October 22, 1981. I believe any US market 81 cars were<br class="">produced that late.<br class=""><br class="">I meant to say ?I doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that late?.<br class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs<br class="">http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage:<br class="">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stan@redtr6.com<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs<br class="">http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage:<br class="">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com<br class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs<br class="">http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage:<br class="">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/alansalvy@gmail.com<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20190904/c7cd3527/attachment-0001.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 11<br class="">Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 07:32:23 -0400<br class="">From: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net><br class="">To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com><br class="">Cc: gdhuggins@genfiniti.com, triumphs@autox.team.net<br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br class="">Message-ID: <F082FA2D-B4EF-4E0A-8ACA-33ED65D4BAFE@comcast.net><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">I had the same experience with World Wide Auto Parts as Dave. A quality rebuild that has preformed for years.<br class="">Best.<br class="">Bob<br class="">?72 TR6<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 2, 2019, at 6:26 AM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">I agree with Mark and Jerry. Since you have shocks on order put those in first and then make a determination as to whether you need new springs or not.<br class=""><br class="">BTW, I sent off a set of shocks to Apple for the "Heavy Duty" rebuild and was quite disappointed in the result. The damping was inadequate. This was many years ago and they may have sorted this out since then. I have more recently (like last year) had a pair (may have been the same pair) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in Madison (http://www.nosimport.com/) with much better results. Peter up there knows Triumphs.<br class=""><br class="">Dave <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: G.D. Huggins <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com><br class="">To: Triumph Mailing List <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm<br class="">Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br class=""><br class="">All,<br class=""><br class="">After almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, it's time to replace what I suspect are the original road springs.<br class="">The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear. Take a curve on a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its contact with the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back down quickly enough.<br class="">As far as shocks go, I?ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just ordered some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear.<br class=""><br class="">I?ve gotten into some research, and everything seems to be pointing toward three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and competition.<br class="">I am leaning toward the ?uprated? variety to stiffen the ride, but I want to keep stock height to not effect wheel camber.<br class=""><br class="">Any experienced-based suggestions?<br class=""><br class="">Thanks in advance.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Cheers,<br class=""><br class="">Guy D. Huggins<br class="">1965 Triumph TR4A<br class="">CTC 63569LO<br class=""><br class="">Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph <><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rrochlin@comcast.net<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20190905/d83755fe/attachment-0001.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 12<br class="">Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 10:32:23 -0400 (EDT)<br class="">From: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net><br class="">To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>, gdhuggins@genfiniti.com,<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>triumphs@autox.team.net<br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br class="">Message-ID: <1545019512.531502.1567693944160@connect.xfinity.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">Hi, Dave. Just curious. What was the fluid you ran in the rebuilt shocks that didn't dampen as well as you'd like? And what do you recommend? (I've been using Harley fork fluid, seems to work fine enough but maybe could be better.)<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On September 2, 2019 at 6:26 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""> I agree with Mark and Jerry. Since you have shocks on order put those in first and then make a determination as to whether you need new springs or not.<br class=""><br class=""> BTW, I sent off a set of shocks to Apple for the "Heavy Duty" rebuild and was quite disappointed in the result. The damping was inadequate. This was many years ago and they may have sorted this out since then. I have more recently (like last year) had a pair (may have been the same pair) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in Madison (http://www.nosimport.com/) with much better results. Peter up there knows Triumphs.<br class=""><br class=""> Dave<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> -----Original Message-----<br class=""> From: G.D. Huggins <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com><br class=""> To: Triumph Mailing List <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class=""> Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm<br class=""> Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br class=""><br class=""> All,<br class=""><br class=""> After almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, it's time to replace what I suspect are the original road springs.<br class=""> The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear. Take a curve on a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its contact with the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back down quickly enough.<br class=""> As far as shocks go, I?ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just ordered some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear.<br class=""><br class=""> I?ve gotten into some research, and everything seems to be pointing toward three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and competition.<br class=""> I am leaning toward the ?uprated? variety to stiffen the ride, but I want to keep stock height to not effect wheel camber.<br class=""><br class=""> Any experienced-based suggestions?<br class=""><br class=""> Thanks in advance.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Cheers,<br class=""><br class=""> Guy D. Huggins<br class=""> 1965 Triumph TR4A<br class=""> CTC 63569LO<br class=""><br class=""> Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class=""> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class=""> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><br class=""> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20190905/b830cebb/attachment-0001.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 13<br class="">Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 14:58:02 +0000 (UTC)<br class="">From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com><br class="">To: terryrs@comcast.net, gdhuggins@genfiniti.com,<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>triumphs@autox.team.net<br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br class="">Message-ID: <1629845502.1795123.1567695482220@mail.yahoo.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class=""> I did not try changing the fluid that was put in by the rebuilder.? It was probably standard fork oil.? A heavier oil may have made the difference but I never got a roundtuit.<br class=""><br class="">Dave <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net><br class="">To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>; gdhuggins <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com>; triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Sent: Thu, Sep 5, 2019 9:32 am<br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br class=""><br class="">Hi, Dave.? Just curious.? What was the fluid you ran in the rebuilt shocks that didn't dampen as well as you'd like?? And what do you recommend?? (I've been using Harley fork fluid, seems to work fine enough but maybe could be better.)<br class="">On September 2, 2019 at 6:26 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote: <br class=""><br class="">I agree with Mark and Jerry.? Since you have shocks on order put those in first and then make a determination as to whether you need new springs or not.<br class=""> BTW, I sent off a set of shocks to Apple for the "Heavy Duty" rebuild and was quite disappointed in the result.? The damping was inadequate.? This was many years ago and they may have sorted this out since then.? I have more recently (like last year) had a pair (may have been the same pair) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in Madison (http://www.nosimport.com/) with much better results.? Peter up there knows Triumphs. <br class=""><br class="">Dave <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message----- <br class=""> From: G.D. Huggins <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com> <br class=""> To: Triumph Mailing List <triumphs@autox.team.net> <br class=""> Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm <br class=""> Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs <br class=""><br class="">All, <br class=""><br class="">After almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, it's time to replace what I suspect are the original road springs. <br class="">The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear.? Take a curve on a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its contact with the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back down quickly enough. <br class="">As far as shocks go, I?ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just ordered some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear. <br class=""><br class="">I?ve gotten into some research, and everything seems to be pointing toward three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and competition. <br class="">I am leaning toward the ?uprated? variety to stiffen the ride, but I want to keep stock height to not effect wheel camber. <br class=""><br class="">Any experienced-based suggestions? <br class=""><br class="">Thanks in advance. <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Cheers, <br class=""><br class="">Guy D. Huggins <br class="">1965 Triumph TR4A <br class="">CTC 63569LO <br class=""><br class="">Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net ** <br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html <br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive <br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net <br class=""><br class="">-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20190905/6d19a4ad/attachment-0001.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 14<br class="">Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 10:27:47 -0500<br class="">From: Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com><br class="">To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class="">Message-ID: <E7FA1630-9880-4DCA-A5FC-A8ABB43053F7@ca.rr.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">Could it have been originally delivered n another country? Maybe Canada, or a "self-import" from the UK.<br class=""><br class="">I found a Coventry-made tractor on Craigslist, some little town in Indiana, even though North American versions were supposed to be built in Dearborn. No idea how it got there, but seems to be the real deal.<br class="">-- Randall<br class=""><br class="">On 4 September 2019 19:38:23 GMT-05:00, Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Thanks all for the feedback. I was pretty sure 85 was the max speedo<br class="">limit on those. The seller of an 81 tr7 is claiming 6000 orig miles<br class="">and it looks like it judging by the one year only velour but the speedo<br class="">is a 140 so I question the validity despite the condition. <br class="">Jim<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPad<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Aha!. I recall with my old Morris 1000 the speedo topped out at 80mph<br class=""></blockquote>but there was no stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was doing<br class="">"half a tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset at the bottom of the<br class="">speedo gauge. Half a tank would be around 100mph.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">From: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class="">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:46:11 PM<br class="">To: Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com><br class="">Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">The display was limited. Meaning 85 was the highest number allowed<br class=""></blockquote>to display. The regulation also required that 55 be called out in some<br class="">fashion. Note that some makers put tick marks beyond 85, just without<br class="">any numbers.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?<br class=""><br class="">Stan<br class="">From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class="">To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><br class="">By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>eliminated on October 22, 1981. I believe any US market 81 cars were<br class="">produced that late.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">I meant to say ?I doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>late?.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs <br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage:<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/stan@redtr6.com<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">** triumphs@autox.team.net **<br class=""><br class="">Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br class="">Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs <br class=""></blockquote>http://www.team.net/archive<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe/Manage:<br class=""></blockquote>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com<br class=""></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20190905/f0f8691f/attachment-0001.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 15<br class="">Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 12:20:23 -0500<br class="">From: "dave" <dave@ranteer.com><br class="">To: <triumphs@autox.team.net><br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br class="">Message-ID: <001d01d5640e$33b81740$9b2845c0$@ranteer.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">Type of shock oil will definitely make a difference. I believe (but could be wrong) that standard shock oil is 20w? years ago I had a car where the shocks were shot. I put 90 wt gear oil in just for grins. Suspension was rock hard until it leaked out again.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of DAVID MASSEY<br class="">Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 9:58 AM<br class="">To: terryrs@comcast.net; gdhuggins@genfiniti.com; triumphs@autox.team.net<br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I did not try changing the fluid that was put in by the rebuilder. It was probably standard fork oil. A heavier oil may have made the difference but I never got a roundtuit.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Dave <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net <mailto:terryrs@comcast.net> ><br class="">To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com <mailto:dave1massey@cs.com> >; gdhuggins <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com <mailto:gdhuggins@genfiniti.com> >; triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net> ><br class="">Sent: Thu, Sep 5, 2019 9:32 am<br class="">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br class=""><br class="">Hi, Dave. Just curious. What was the fluid you ran in the rebuilt shocks that didn't dampen as well as you'd like? And what do you recommend? (I've been using Harley fork fluid, seems to work fine enough but maybe could be better.)<br class=""><br class="">On September 2, 2019 at 6:26 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com <mailto:dave1massey@cs.com> > wrote: <br class=""><br class="">I agree with Mark and Jerry. Since you have shocks on order put those in first and then make a determination as to whether you need new springs or not.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">BTW, I sent off a set of shocks to Apple for the "Heavy Duty" rebuild and was quite disappointed in the result. The damping was inadequate. This was many years ago and they may have sorted this out since then. I have more recently (like last year) had a pair (may have been the same pair) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in Madison (http://www.nosimport.com/) with much better results. Peter up there knows Triumphs. <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Dave <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message----- <br class="">From: G.D. Huggins <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com <mailto:gdhuggins@genfiniti.com> > <br class="">To: Triumph Mailing List <triumphs@autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net> > <br class="">Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm <br class="">Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs <br class=""><br class="">All, <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">After almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, it's time to replace what I suspect are the original road springs. <br class=""><br class="">The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear. Take a curve on a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its contact with the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back down quickly enough. <br class=""><br class="">As far as shocks go, I?ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just ordered some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear. <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I?ve gotten into some research, and everything seems to be pointing toward three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and competition. <br class=""><br class="">I am leaning toward the ?uprated? variety to stiffen the ride, but I want to keep stock height to not effect wheel camber. <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Any experienced-based suggestions? <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Thanks in advance. <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Cheers, <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Guy D. 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