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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks, that explains a lot.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Macartney [mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 26, 2019 2:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> Wbeech@flash.net<br><b>Cc:</b> Kinderlehrer; triumphs@autox.team.net; Randall; Jim Kermode<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Where is the TR4 frame number located<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>IIRC, all chassis were made by a firm called Sankey. Highly likely they’d have a build number for their own purposes but I never remember seeing that type of number or descriptor on the vehicle build sheet aka “the tally”.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Jonmac<o:p></o:p></p><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>Remember, it’s rarely a good idea to squat, unless you’ve already removed your spurs!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 26 May 2019, at 00:07, <a href="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net">Wbeech@flash.net</a> <<a href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net">wbeech@flash.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bob,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Of TR3 frames that I have known, the only number I have found is a plate on the top of the front cross member. As John said, not a production serial number, maybe a date or assembly team? IIRC the number on my ‘58 was “Z28”, didn’t go any faster though. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On May 25, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Kinderlehrer <<a href="mailto:kinderlehrer@comcast.net">kinderlehrer@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks John, I was told there was a number on my TR3 (don’t remember ever seeing it) and I’m pretty sure that there is a number stamped on my TR2000 Roadster frame (I think I saw that). Just thought here would be one on the TR4. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This from the Roadster group, my car doesn’t look this good from underneath.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><image001.jpg></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Macartney [<a href="mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk">mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 25, 2019 2:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> Kinderlehrer<br><b>Cc:</b> Randall; <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>; Jim Kermode<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Where is the TR4 frame number located</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bob, I don’t remember us ever recording or using frame ref numbers. In fact, don’t think frames were ever numbered from a production standpoint. Nearest you’ll get is/was the body number but the commission number was the most important of all.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Jonmac<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Remember, it’s rarely a good idea to squat, unless you’ve already removed your spurs!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 25 May 2019, at 21:00, Kinderlehrer <<a href="mailto:kinderlehrer@comcast.net">kinderlehrer@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Randall. Going down the kit car route is a possibility. It appears as though it requires a smog certificate, not sure how that would work with a Rover engine of who knows what vintage. All he has is a bill of sale, just thinking a frame number might be enough to get a TR4 title. There are some specialists that can work wonders with very little.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Triumphs [<a href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Randall<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 25, 2019 12:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Where is the TR4 frame number located</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>There isn't one AFAIK. There might be a tag on top of the front cross member (under the engine) but if its there, its just a series number or something like that. There is nothing to identify a particular frame.<br><br>Depends on the state, but most of them have a process for assigning a new vin number to a car assembled from parts. The local DMV may not know much about it, but its there. And usually pretty easy, if you know how.<br>-- Randall<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 25 May 2019 11:52:36 GMT-07:00, Kinderlehrer <<a href="mailto:kinderlehrer@comcast.net">kinderlehrer@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A friend recently acquired a Devon bodied TR4, well, basically, practically the only thing that is left of the TR4 is the frame. He’s thinking of getting it titled, but has no number to go on and can’t seem to find the frame number. Does anyone know exactly where it is located?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>