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On Sunday, December 2, 2018, 8:48:55 AM EST, triumphs-request@autox.team.net <triumphs-request@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs-request@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-request@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs-owner@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-owner@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..."<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Today's Topics:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> 1. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (Alan & Lyn Dunscombe)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> 2. HS6 on a TR3 (<a shape="rect" href="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wbeech@flash.net</a>)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> 3. Re: HS6 on a TR3 (Randall)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> 4. Re: HS6 on a TR3 (<a shape="rect" href="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wbeech@flash.net</a>)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> 5. Fiberglass fender (Andrew Uprichard)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2018 11:33:32 +1300<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">From: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:5C030C3C.2010801@chch.planet.org.nz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">5C030C3C.2010801@chch.planet.org.nz</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">thanks everyone for your prompt replies to my post,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">especially Randall as always,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">just the info I needed<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">much appreciated<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Alan<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">TS 3612 down in New Zealand<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">On 1/12/2018 8:00 a.m., <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs-request@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-request@autox.team.net</a> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs-request@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-request@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> You can reach the person managing the list at<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs-owner@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-owner@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..."<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Today's Topics:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 1. Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019 (Rye Livingston)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 2. Re: Brake fluid for Triumph (Sujit Roy)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 3. Re: Brake fluid for Triumph (<a shape="rect" href="mailto:glemon@neb.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">glemon@neb.rr.com</a>)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 4. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (Alan& Lyn Dunscombe)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 5. Re: Brake fluid for Triumph (DAVID MASSEY)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 6. Re: Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019 (DAVID MASSEY)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 7. Re: TR cylinder heads (Randall)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 8. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (TERRY SMITH)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 9. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (Randall)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 10. Re: Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019 (Dave Connitt)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 11. Re: TR cylinder heads (DAVE HOGYE)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 12. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (Andrew Uprichard)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 13. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (Jerry Van Vlack)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 14. Re: Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019 (Rye Livingston)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 15. Re: TR cylinder heads (John Macartney)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 16. Who owns buckeyetriumps.org (Sujit Roy)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 1<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 23:31:21 GMT<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Rye Livingston<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ryel@mac.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: "Triumph list Team.net"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:80da0af0-5dfb-4563-aa9f-849b095d1d06@me.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">80da0af0-5dfb-4563-aa9f-849b095d1d06@me.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Dear Fellow Triumph Owner,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> It?s time to make plans for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2019.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in Northern California, which is celebrating our 60th anniversary.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> As you may remember a few years ago, I encouraged members of our club to drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthday, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and went on to?make the cars we enjoy driving today.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> The first year about half a dozen members participated, and it?s been building momentum every year since. Last year I received about 250 photos from all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Czech Republic, and of course all over the USA.? I?m hoping to double that number this year!<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> The concept is straightforward. On February 10th, go for a drive in your Triumph.? Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the market, to work, where ever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog; then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possible, ideally in front a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibernation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to <a shape="rect" href="mailto:driveyourtriumphday@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">driveyourtriumphday@gmail.com</a>, along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of car, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vintage Triumph Registry, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: <a shape="rect" href="https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> This year February 10th falls on a Sunday, so lets make this a big worldwide event with club drives and lots of photos.? Remember, it?s a new photo taken on February 10th, 2019.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clubs joined in too, which is all good.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in advance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive Their Triumphs on February 10th.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Regards,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Rye Livingston<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Activities Chairman<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Celebrating our 60th Anniversary<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 1960 Triumph TR3A<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -------------- next part --------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> URL:<<a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181129/1fd9ab9a/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181129/1fd9ab9a/attachment-0001.html</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 2<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:01:57 -0800<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Sujit Roy<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: TERRY SMITH<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Cc: Triumphs<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <CANLCLaF3Zc7P+<a shape="rect" href="mailto:FdMiQT2AJYEhwfQzgzjXZ6BGU4zp20nAzQNBg@mail.gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">FdMiQT2AJYEhwfQzgzjXZ6BGU4zp20nAzQNBg@mail.gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Thanks. I'll stick with the new black bottle for my current stag. But for<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Stag no. 2 which needs brakes seals all round I'll go for DOT 5<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 2:48 PM TERRY SMITH<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Amen to that, Jeff.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> On November 29, 2018 at 8:10 AM Jeff Scarbrough<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fishplate@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fishplate@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:47 AM Randall< <a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> So I'd have to say that "best practice" is probably to replace the seals<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> at<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> the same time.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> I recognize a case of shipwright's disease when I see it, but since I<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> have more than one car and am not greatly inconvenienced when one is<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> partially disassembled on stands in the garage; yet I am greatly<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> inconvenienced when the one I am driving is lying inert in the tall grass<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> on the side of the road, I tend to go in and completely repair a system<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> when a part of it needs attention. If I'm going to replace the wheel<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> cylinders, I'll replace/upgrade the hoses, and consider the calipers and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> master as well. If I'm changing one radiator hose, I'll go ahead and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> replace all the radiator and heater hoses, and do a complete flush with the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> radiator out. Et cetera. Saves a lot of sitting and waiting for the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> flatbed.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Jeff Scarbrough<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Corrosion Acres, Ga.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> ** <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Donate: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Archive: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> ** <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Donate: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Archive: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphstag@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphstag@gmail.com</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -------------- next part --------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> URL:<<a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181129/f0cc59f8/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181129/f0cc59f8/attachment-0001.html</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 3<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 23:00:54 -0500<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From:<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:glemon@neb.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">glemon@neb.rr.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Cc: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:20181130040054.3Z2Z3.138821.root@cdptpa-web26" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">20181130040054.3Z2Z3.138821.root@cdptpa-web26</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I used Castrol LMA for years and seemed like every year or so, sometimes more, sometimes less, some master or slave cylinder would fail. I didn't really keep track of the timeframe, but seemed like a very regular basis, often a rear wheel cylinder.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Sometime ago I switched to Dot 5, actually bought a car that had it. After sometime (nearly 20 years of ownership) it dawned on me that I hardly ever had any problems with hydraulics anymore. I was a firm believer in the benefits of Dot 5.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Chapter 3-Last year my relatively new (7 years from the restoration, which is some time, but I was getting used to having so few problems it still surprised me) brake master cylinder quit, followed by a leaky clutch master. Inspection of the brake master shows corrossion at the bottom of the bore, as if water had settled there.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> So Dot 5 seems to work well with hydraulics, but even though it does not absorb water, if water gets into the system, which apparently it can, it can do as much or more damage than it can in coventional fluid.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> My fault for not flushing the fluid more often, but a little unsure if a flush would get lingering fluid out of the bottom of the bore (vs. a conventional flush which will displace fluid with x %age of water with new fluid with< x %age of water, thereby lowering water in the system and making your fluid good again).<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> YMMV, everybody seems to have different stories and experience with brake fluid, but that has been mine.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Greg Lemon<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> TR250<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ---- <a shape="rect" href="mailto:ptegler@verizon.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ptegler@verizon.net</a> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> ..the only negative I've ever encountered with Dot 5 in our old cars is it does not lubricate the rubber as well as older fluids.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Synth and natural rubber also react differently ...as with everything with LBC's... ? ymmv<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> ptegler<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> -----Original Message-----<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> From: TERRY SMITH<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> To: Randall<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>>; Sujit Roy<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Cc: Triumphs<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Sent: Thu, Nov 29, 2018 11:07 am<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> When restoring my 3A in 2002, while the body was off the frame I replaced all the brake lines and hydraulic cylinders.? I learned about Dot 5 silicone based fluid from the List then and went with it. After 15 years of driving, the same brake system remains rock solid plus I never blistered paint with the occasional spill.? Doesn't silicone wear easier on rubber seals?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A? TS 58667<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> New Hampshire, where early snows have sent both bears and Triumphs off to the Land of Nod<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> On November 28, 2018 at 7:58 PM Randall<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> Can I use DOT 5 in the Stag? Do I need to flush out the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> current DOT 3/ 4?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Both of my Stags have DOT 5 in them.? LE1473 was converted just by bleeding<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> through at each corner until clean purple fluid appeared.? The other one<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> (dubbed Frankenstag because it appears to be parts from at least 3 different<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> cars) had a failed MC and stuck rear wheel cylinders when I got it, so those<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> were repaired at the same time.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> However, LE1473 already had what seemed to be a minor master cylinder<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> problem before the conversion (pedal would sometimes drop towards floor<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> while sitting at a stop light), and it suddenly got a whole lot worse not<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> long after the conversion (no hydraulic brakes at all).? (I also learned<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> that the back brakes on a Stag are more prone to fade than a TR3.)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Post-mortem showed both MC piston seals torn, and approximately the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> consistency of Gummi Bears.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> So I'd have to say that "best practice" is probably to replace the seals at<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> the same time.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Randall<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> ** <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Donate: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Archive: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> ** <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Donate: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Archive: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler@verizon.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler@verizon.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 4<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 23:27:47 +1300<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Alan& Lyn Dunscombe<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:5C0110A3.5060107@chch.planet.org.nz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">5C0110A3.5060107@chch.planet.org.nz</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I am about to disassemble my oil pump on 4 cyl. TR3 motor,& replace the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> oil pump cap (with gauze filter) on to the bottom of the pump body.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> When I fit the new oil pump cap to the pump body:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> is there a gasket to go there? ( I don't think there is, but just checking)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> do I use any sealer between the cap& body?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> what torque for the bolts holding it on?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Randall can you advise? anyone?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> thanks<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Alan Dunscombe TS 3612<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -------------- next part --------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> URL:<<a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/31f8f610/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/31f8f610/attachment-0001.html</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 5<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 13:21:56 +0000 (UTC)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: DAVID MASSEY<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>, <a shape="rect" href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Cc: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:765522458.254028.1543584116040@mail.yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">765522458.254028.1543584116040@mail.yahoo.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Moss and TRF sell a handy sticker indicating that the car is converted to DOT5.? Others have them, too, I suppose.? I recommend one of these just to keep everyone in the loop.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Dave<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -----Original Message-----<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Sujit Roy<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: TERRY SMITH<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Cc: Triumphs<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Sent: Fri, Nov 30, 2018 12:03 am<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Thanks. I'll stick with the new black bottle for my current stag. But for Stag no. 2 which needs brakes seals all round I'll go for DOT 5<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 2:48 PM TERRY SMITH<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Amen to that, Jeff.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> On November 29, 2018 at 8:10 AM Jeff Scarbrough<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fishplate@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fishplate@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:47 AM Randall< <a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> So I'd have to say that "best practice" is probably to replace the seals at<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> the same time.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ?I recognize a case of shipwright's disease when I see it, but since I have more than one car and am not greatly inconvenienced when one is partially disassembled on stands in the garage; yet I am greatly inconvenienced when the one I am driving is lying inert in the tall grass on the side of the road, I tend to go in and completely repair a system when a part of it needs attention.? If I'm going to replace the wheel cylinders, I'll replace/upgrade the hoses, and consider the calipers and master as well.? If I'm changing one radiator hose, I'll go ahead and replace all the radiator and heater hoses, and do a complete flush with the radiator out.? Et cetera.? Saves a lot of sitting and waiting for the flatbed.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Jeff ScarbroughCorrosion Acres, Ga.?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -------------- next part --------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> URL:<<a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/873e7da4/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/873e7da4/attachment-0001.html</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 6<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 13:41:10 +0000 (UTC)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: DAVID MASSEY<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:ryel@mac.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>, <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Cc: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:rangermk@sbcglobal.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">rangermk@sbcglobal.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:3041847.254145.1543585270348@mail.yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">3041847.254145.1543585270348@mail.yahoo.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Coincidentally, the St. Louis Triumph Owner's Association will be holding our annual Polar Bear Run on that day.? Barring a weather fiasco we should be able to provide quite a number of suitable photos.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Dave<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -----Original Message-----<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Rye Livingston<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ryel@mac.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: Triumph list Team.net<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Sent: Thu, Nov 29, 2018 11:10 pm<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Dear Fellow Triumph Owner,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> It?s time to make plans for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2019.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in Northern California, which is celebrating our 60th anniversary.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> As you may remember a few years ago, I encouraged members of our club to drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthday, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and went on to?make the cars we enjoy driving today.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> The first year about half a dozen members participated, and it?s been building momentum every year since. Last year I received about 250 photos from all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Czech Republic, and of course all over the USA.? I?m hoping to double that number this year!<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> The concept is straightforward. On February 10th, go for a drive in your Triumph.? Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the market, to work, where ever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog; then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possible, ideally in front a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibernation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to <a shape="rect" href="mailto:driveyourtriumphday@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">driveyourtriumphday@gmail.com</a>, along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of car, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vintage Triumph Registry, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: <a shape="rect" href="https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> This year February 10th falls on a Sunday, so lets make this a big worldwide event with club drives and lots of photos.? Remember, it?s a new photo taken on February 10th, 2019.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clubs joined in too, which is all good.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in advance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive Their Triumphs on February 10th.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Regards,Rye LivingstonActivities ChairmanTriumph Travelers Sports Car ClubCelebrating our 60th Anniversary1960 Triumph TR3AMobile: 530-FIND-RYE<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -------------- next part --------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> URL:<<a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/7a52ac88/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/7a52ac88/attachment-0001.html</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 7<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 06:04:15 -0800<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: "Randall"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: "'Dave'"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dlhogye@comcast.net</a>>, "'Andrew Uprichard'"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Cc: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] TR cylinder heads<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:E6A376F4B9BD40F393B40A03900FA617@RYPC" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">E6A376F4B9BD40F393B40A03900FA617@RYPC</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Does anyone have anything to add about the information I<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> provided about a what looks like a 5th casting for 4 cylinder<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> TRs? I hope the message came through with the attached photos.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Dave H.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Perhaps I am confused. The information you supplied seems to match the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> information TeriAnn has listed for (some?) TR3B through CT21470E TR4. P/N<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 511084 is listed in the SPC as being a cylinder head (less valves and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> springs) for TR4 through CT21470E. It takes the same exhaust valves as<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> earlier TRs, with the 3/8" stem rather than the 5/16" stem used later on.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> The SPC I have is not explicit about the change from triple exhaust springs<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> to double; but it's my belief that it happened around the same time as the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> change in exhaust stem diameter.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> The book says the later double springs can be fitted, but is somewhat<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> confusing on the topic of "collars", since the same term is used both for<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> the spacer that goes under the triple springs, and for what I call the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> "retainer" that goes above the spring. I believe the sets with double<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> exhaust springs take a different retainer (142137 vs 105083) for both intake<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> and exhaust; and should be used without the spacer (108242). Both inner and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> outer springs have different part numbers between the two sets, and I<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> believe the dimensions are different.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> It also mentions the "conversion" guides to use the 5/16" exhaust valves in<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> the earlier heads. The earlier heads actually have a larger hole for the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> exhaust guide, so these conversion guides are thicker to fill the larger<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> hole.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -- Randall<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 8<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 09:41:56 -0500 (EST)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: TERRY SMITH<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: Alan& Lyn Dunscombe<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz</a>>,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:450055189.214820.1543588917221@connect.xfinity.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">450055189.214820.1543588917221@connect.xfinity.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Hi, Alan. I didn't think so but couldn't remember for sure, so just did a quick check on the Moss Motors engine parts breakout. The pump itself has a gasket, but the joint for the cap and the pump body does not.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> On November 30, 2018 at 5:27 AM Alan& Lyn Dunscombe<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> I am about to disassemble my oil pump on 4 cyl. TR3 motor,& replace the oil pump cap (with gauze filter) on to the bottom of the pump body.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> When I fit the new oil pump cap to the pump body:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> is there a gasket to go there? ( I don't think there is, but just checking)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> do I use any sealer between the cap& body?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> what torque for the bolts holding it on?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Randall can you advise? anyone?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> thanks<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Alan Dunscombe TS 3612<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> ** <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Donate: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Archive: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a><a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Unsubscribe/Manage: <a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -------------- next part --------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> URL:<<a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/2a40613e/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/2a40613e/attachment-0001.html</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 9<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 07:03:08 -0800<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: "Randall"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: "'Alan& Lyn Dunscombe'"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz</a>>,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:C335DA43E068468DAEE1923DB27C7A8F@RYPC" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">C335DA43E068468DAEE1923DB27C7A8F@RYPC</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> When I fit the new oil pump cap to the pump body:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> is there a gasket to go there? ( I don't think there is, but<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> just checking) do I use any sealer between the cap& body?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> what torque for the bolts holding it on?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> No gasket, I don't use any sealer. Do check that the surfaces are perfectly<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> flat, though. Sometimes even new components aren't.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I think 12 ftlbs is a reasonable torque value; but I don't have a factory<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> spec.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Also double-check how the rotor is secured to the shaft. There should be a<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> pin visible; but some aftermarket pumps have the rotor pressed onto a<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> knurled shaft. The knurls have been known to fail in service and create a<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> mess (in addition to the sudden loss of oil pressure).<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -- Randall<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 10<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:37:13 -0500<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: "Dave Connitt"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dconnitt@fuse.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dconnitt@fuse.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: "'Rye Livingston'"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ryel@mac.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>>, "'Triumph list Team.net'"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<002c01d488c2$91354f50$b39fedf0$@fuse.net><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> What a great idea!<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Dave Connitt<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ?67 TR4A-IRS<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Triumphs<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Rye Livingston<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:31 PM<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: Triumph list Team.net<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Dear Fellow Triumph Owner,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> It?s time to make plans for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2019.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in Northern California, which is celebrating our 60th anniversary.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> As you may remember a few years ago, I encouraged members of our club to drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthday, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and went on to make the cars we enjoy driving today.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> The first year about half a dozen members participated, and it?s been building momentum every year since. Last year I received about 250 photos from all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Czech Republic, and of course all over the USA. I?m hoping to double that number this year!<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> The concept is straightforward. On February 10th, go for a drive in your Triumph. Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the market, to work, where ever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog; then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possible, ideally in front a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibernation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to <a shape="rect" href="mailto:driveyourtriumphday@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">driveyourtriumphday@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a shape="rect" href="mailto:driveyourtriumphday@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">driveyourtriumphday@gmail.com</a>> , along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of car, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vintage Triumph Registry, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: <a shape="rect" href="https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com</a><<a shape="rect" href="https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com/</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> This year February 10th falls on a Sunday, so lets make this a big worldwide event with club drives and lots of photos. Remember, it?s a new photo taken on February 10th, 2019.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clubs joined in too, which is all good.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in advance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive Their Triumphs on February 10th.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Regards,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Rye Livingston<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Activities Chairman<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Celebrating our 60th Anniversary<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 1960 Triumph TR3A<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -------------- next part --------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> URL:<<a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/676f5c1c/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/676f5c1c/attachment-0001.html</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 11<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 07:54:22 -0800 (PST)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: DAVE HOGYE<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dlhogye@comcast.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: Randall<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>>, Andrew Uprichard<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Cc: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] TR cylinder heads<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:749514712.4018.1543593263270@connect.xfinity.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">749514712.4018.1543593263270@connect.xfinity.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Ah yes, I understand. The head was the same "casting" as the TR4A head, but have machining for the exhaust valve stem and intake port that match the earlier high port heads.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Thanks, Dave H.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> On November 30, 2018 at 6:04 AM Randall<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Does anyone have anything to add about the information I<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> provided about a what looks like a 5th casting for 4 cylinder<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> TRs? I hope the message came through with the attached photos.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> Dave H.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Perhaps I am confused. The information you supplied seems to match the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> information TeriAnn has listed for (some?) TR3B through CT21470E TR4. P/N<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> 511084 is listed in the SPC as being a cylinder head (less valves and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> springs) for TR4 through CT21470E. It takes the same exhaust valves as<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> earlier TRs, with the 3/8" stem rather than the 5/16" stem used later on.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> The SPC I have is not explicit about the change from triple exhaust springs<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> to double; but it's my belief that it happened around the same time as the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> change in exhaust stem diameter.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> The book says the later double springs can be fitted, but is somewhat<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> confusing on the topic of "collars", since the same term is used both for<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> the spacer that goes under the triple springs, and for what I call the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> "retainer" that goes above the spring. I believe the sets with double<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> exhaust springs take a different retainer (142137 vs 105083) for both intake<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> and exhaust; and should be used without the spacer (108242). Both inner and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> outer springs have different part numbers between the two sets, and I<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> believe the dimensions are different.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> It also mentions the "conversion" guides to use the 5/16" exhaust valves in<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> the earlier heads. The earlier heads actually have a larger hole for the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> exhaust guide, so these conversion guides are thicker to fill the larger<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> hole.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> -- Randall<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 12<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 11:09:23 -0500<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: "Andrew Uprichard"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: "'Randall'"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>>, "'Alan& Lyn Dunscombe'"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz</a>>,<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<007301d488c7$11f95790$35ec06b0$@uprichard.net><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> One additional point. I once rebuilt an engine, but couldn't get good oil<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> pressure. As I had re-used the original oil pump, I pulled the sump to see<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> if the problem was a faulty oil pump. It was then I realized I had not used<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> the gasket between the pump and the block. Significant oil must haven<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> leaking there as a gasket solved the problem.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Andrew Uprichard<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Jackson, Michigan<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -----Original Message-----<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Triumphs [mailto:<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Randall<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:03 AM<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: 'Alan& Lyn Dunscombe'; <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> When I fit the new oil pump cap to the pump body:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> is there a gasket to go there? ( I don't think there is, but<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> just checking) do I use any sealer between the cap& body?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> what torque for the bolts holding it on?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> No gasket, I don't use any sealer. Do check that the surfaces are perfectly<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> flat, though. Sometimes even new components aren't.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I think 12 ftlbs is a reasonable torque value; but I don't have a factory<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> spec.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Also double-check how the rotor is secured to the shaft. There should be a<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> pin visible; but some aftermarket pumps have the rotor pressed onto a<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> knurled shaft. The knurls have been known to fail in service and create a<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> mess (in addition to the sudden loss of oil pressure).<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -- Randall<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 13<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 11:18:05 -0500<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: "Jerry Van Vlack"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:jerryvv@roadrunner.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jerryvv@roadrunner.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: "Alan& Lyn Dunscombe"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dunscomb@chch.planet.org.nz</a>>,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:E840F52B61154E66B45CF146FC349DA2@VlackTK121647" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">E840F52B61154E66B45CF146FC349DA2@VlackTK121647</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Alan, I?m not sure I understand what you are doing to your oil pump, however I suggest you remove all of the scores you?ll find on that cap. A flat surface is best ( I use a piece of glass ) and some emery cloth with lots of oil. Work the scored surface back and forth with even pressure adding oil as needed until you?ve worked all of the scores out of the surface. You can start with coarse emery and finer once the deep scores are removed. Check all the clearances and if replacing the internals be certain the gear is pinned to the shaft as there have been failures of replacement pumps. Frankly try to reuse your original pump internals. It doesn't seem possible that oil pressure can be lost via those scores in the bottom plate but from experience loss does occur there.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I?m not familiar with a replacement gauze ?filter? screen but think it may not be a good idea, the screen does a fine job and the oil filter does the rest.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> JVV<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Alan& Lyn Dunscombe<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 5:27 AM<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I am about to disassemble my oil pump on 4 cyl. TR3 motor,& replace the oil pump cap (with gauze filter) on to the bottom of the pump body.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> When I fit the new oil pump cap to the pump body:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> is there a gasket to go there? ( I don't think there is, but just checking)<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> do I use any sealer between the cap& body?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> what torque for the bolts holding it on?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Randall can you advise? anyone?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> thanks<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Alan Dunscombe TS 3612<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -------------- next part --------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> URL:<<a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/b6bdfbd5/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/b6bdfbd5/attachment-0001.html</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 14<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 16:21:42 GMT<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Rye Livingston<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ryel@mac.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: DAVID MASSEY<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Cc: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>, <a shape="rect" href="mailto:rangermk@sbcglobal.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">rangermk@sbcglobal.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:0deaf8fe-6df3-4c79-a5d9-a005664a4ff1@me.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">0deaf8fe-6df3-4c79-a5d9-a005664a4ff1@me.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Excellent!<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Rye<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> On Nov 30, 2018, at 05:41 AM, DAVID MASSEY<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Coincidentally, the St. Louis Triumph Owner's Association will be holding our annual Polar Bear Run on that day.? Barring a weather fiasco we should be able to provide quite a number of suitable photos.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Dave<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -----Original Message-----<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Rye Livingston<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ryel@mac.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ryel@mac.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: Triumph list Team.net<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Sent: Thu, Nov 29, 2018 11:10 pm<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Dear Fellow Triumph Owner,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> It?s time to make plans for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2019.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in Northern California, which is celebrating our 60th anniversary.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> As you may remember a few years ago, I encouraged members of our club to drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthday, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and went on to?make the cars we enjoy driving today.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> The first year about half a dozen members participated, and it?s been building momentum every year since. Last year I received about 250 photos from all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Czech Republic, and of course all over the USA.? I?m hoping to double that number this year!<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> The concept is straightforward. On February 10th, go for a drive in your Triumph.? Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the market, to work, where ever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog; then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possible, ideally in front a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibernation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to <a shape="rect" href="mailto:driveyourtriumphday@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">driveyourtriumphday@gmail.com</a>, along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of car, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vintage Triumph Registry, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: <a shape="rect" href="https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> This year February 10th falls on a Sunday, so lets make this a big worldwide event with club drives and lots of photos.? Remember, it?s a new photo taken on February 10th, 2019.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clubs joined in too, which is all good.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in advance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive Their Triumphs on February 10th.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Regards,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Rye Livingston<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Activities Chairman<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Celebrating our 60th Anniversary<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 1960 Triumph TR3A<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -------------- next part --------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> URL:<<a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/db55f3ff/attachment-0001.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20181130/db55f3ff/attachment-0001.html</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 15<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 17:15:52 -0000<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: "John Macartney"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: "'Randall'"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>>, "'Dave'"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dlhogye@comcast.net</a>>,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> "'Andrew Uprichard'"<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Cc: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] TR cylinder heads<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<000001d488d0$59cd7840$0d6868c0$@ukpips.org.uk><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I wasn't able to pick up on this thread owing to other pressures. I'm<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> assuming the thread refers to an earlier post where someone queried the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> existence of a number on a wet liner four pot? If I'm looking at the same<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> hymn sheet, these raised numbers cast in the head are usually found in the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> middle-ish of the head adjacent to the valves and are not an alternative<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> part number, nor will you find them in any parts catalogue. You can see the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> raised number on a little plinth which is visible underneath the rocker<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> arms. I know from more recent experiences with the six cylinder engine that<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> this same 'number' is about adjacent to valve stem three and/or four. The<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> same may apply to the four pot. That number is not a part number per se but<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> an engineering reference number for use in production - and no other<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> purpose! If I had been a Wise Virgin some fifty or more years ago and kept<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> my engineering change reference guides, I'd be able to tell you chapter and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> verse on any head produced by the company for any market from 1946 to 1973.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> However, long, long before the days of the internet, I looked at those<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> numbers in their manual and wondered "who on earth would ever want these?"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> and they went in the trash. Sorry, everyone!<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> For those of you who have the 2.5 litre six cylinder, bear these two numbers<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> in mind - 219015 and/or 219016.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> These identify the very last head ever re-worked for that engine and it is<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> by far the best head in terms of porting, port diameter, gas flow and swirl<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> within the combustion chamber. AFAIK, it was never fitted to North American<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> cars as they had lower CR's from 1971 onwards but if anyone is ever in the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> UK or Europe and at a Triumph parts fair and you see one available that's<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> undamaged, GRAB it! Not many enthusiasts realise the true worth of this head<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> and I fitted one to my 2.5 injection saloon and the performance improvement<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> was amazing.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Jonmac<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -----Original Message-----<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Triumphs<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Randall<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Sent: 30 November 2018 14:04<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: 'Dave'<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dlhogye@comcast.net</a>>; 'Andrew Uprichard'<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Cc: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [TR] TR cylinder heads<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Does anyone have anything to add about the information I provided<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> about a what looks like a 5th casting for 4 cylinder TRs? I hope the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> message came through with the attached photos.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> Dave H.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Perhaps I am confused. The information you supplied seems to match the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> information TeriAnn has listed for (some?) TR3B through CT21470E TR4. P/N<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 511084 is listed in the SPC as being a cylinder head (less valves and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> springs) for TR4 through CT21470E. It takes the same exhaust valves as<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> earlier TRs, with the 3/8" stem rather than the 5/16" stem used later on.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> The SPC I have is not explicit about the change from triple exhaust springs<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> to double; but it's my belief that it happened around the same time as the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> change in exhaust stem diameter.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> The book says the later double springs can be fitted, but is somewhat<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> confusing on the topic of "collars", since the same term is used both for<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> the spacer that goes under the triple springs, and for what I call the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> "retainer" that goes above the spring. I believe the sets with double<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> exhaust springs take a different retainer (142137 vs 105083) for both intake<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> and exhaust; and should be used without the spacer (108242). Both inner and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> outer springs have different part numbers between the two sets, and I<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> believe the dimensions are different.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> It also mentions the "conversion" guides to use the 5/16" exhaust valves in<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> the earlier heads. The earlier heads actually have a larger hole for the<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> exhaust guide, so these conversion guides are thicker to fill the larger<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> hole.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> -- Randall<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs </a> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ---<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <a shape="rect" href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message: 16<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 09:38:41 -0800<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> From: Sujit Roy<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> To: Triumphs<<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Subject: [TR] Who owns buckeyetriumps.org<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Message-ID:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <CANLCLaGnR5GL=xw+PGf5GGZss+<a shape="rect" href="mailto:h5csKTmotc8qWrw9YPyJyz7A@mail.gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">h5csKTmotc8qWrw9YPyJyz7A@mail.gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I always go this this great website for Triumph help. I wonder who owns and<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> maintains it?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I'm assuming the owners renew the domain name every year.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I'd hate for it to be lost.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Sujit<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 17:35:14 -0600<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">From: "<a shape="rect" href="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wbeech@flash.net</a>" <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">wbeech@flash.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">To: Dave Ranteer <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] HS6 on a TR3<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:35AF5599-8A78-4D61-9D1B-E9D2C8BB3E77@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">35AF5599-8A78-4D61-9D1B-E9D2C8BB3E77@flash.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Installing a pair of HS6 SU carburetors from a TR4 on a stock TR3A motor. With regards to the vacuum-in ports on the carbs that would normally connect to the PCV line from the rocker cover. Does it matter whether i plug the two ports or should I run a line between them? Or is it just sixes?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks,<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Bill B<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">TS30800L<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my Handspring Treo<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 3<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 20:10:00 -0800<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Randall" <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">To: "'<a shape="rect" href="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wbeech@flash.net</a>'" <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">wbeech@flash.net</a>>, "'Dave Ranteer'"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] HS6 on a TR3<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:0157339A9174481581F3C300986E4665@RYPC" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">0157339A9174481581F3C300986E4665@RYPC</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Installing a pair of HS6 SU carburetors from a TR4 on a stock <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> TR3A motor. With regards to the vacuum-in ports on the carbs <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> that would normally connect to the PCV line from the rocker <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> cover. Does it matter whether i plug the two ports or should <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I run a line between them? Or is it just sixes?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">I believe that was only on TR6. TR4A and TR250 used a real PCV valve<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">plumbed to the intake manifold.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">But if you had them, you could just cap them off.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">-- Randall <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 4<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 23:07:26 -0600<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">From: "<a shape="rect" href="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wbeech@flash.net</a>" <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">wbeech@flash.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">To: Randall <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Dave Ranteer <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] HS6 on a TR3<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:24E66951-7669-4794-AE6A-EAD2B78898C0@flash.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">24E66951-7669-4794-AE6A-EAD2B78898C0@flash.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks Randall, I?m sure you are correct as the pedigree here is a bit suspect. I?ll cap the ports off and head on to bigger things. <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Bill B<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my Handspring Treo<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> On Dec 1, 2018, at 10:10 PM, Randall <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> Installing a pair of HS6 SU carburetors from a TR4 on a stock <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> TR3A motor. With regards to the vacuum-in ports on the carbs <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> that would normally connect to the PCV line from the rocker <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> cover. Does it matter whether i plug the two ports or should <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">> I run a line between them? Or is it just sixes?<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">I believe that was only on TR6. TR4A and TR250 used a real PCV valve<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">plumbed to the intake manifold.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">But if you had them, you could just cap them off.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">-- Randall <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 5<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 07:58:52 -0500<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Andrew Uprichard" <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">To: <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Fiberglass fender<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <000c01d48a3e$c709ca20$551d5e60$@uprichard.net><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Hey, listers: I recently came across, of all things, a fiberglass DS rear<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">fender. It is unused, and, if it stays with me, it will remain unused! So<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">if anyone is interested, contact me offline. 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