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Re: Vestigal Brown Wire? (Keith Stewart)<br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531561031390_3972"> 2. Re: TR4A horn (Greg)<br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531561031390_3973"> 3. Re: [Stag] AC blower motors (Patrick Baize)<br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531561031390_3974"> 4. Re: [Stag] AC blower motors (Randall)<br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1531561031390_3975"> 5. Auto Restoration School (<a ymailto="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net" href="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net">Wbeech@flash.net</a>)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 6. Re: Auto Restoration School (Geo Hahn)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 7. Re: Auto Restoration School (David P)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 21:17:21 -0400<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Keith Stewart" <<a ymailto="mailto:keithstewart@bell.net" href="mailto:keithstewart@bell.net">keithstewart@bell.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "'Tom Walling'" <<a ymailto="mailto:pdqtr6@comcast.net" href="mailto:pdqtr6@comcast.net">pdqtr6@comcast.net</a>>, "'Triumphs'"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Vestigal Brown Wire?<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <00dc01d41a47$408dc4e0$c1a94ea0$@bell.net><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Wait another 20 years. Your memory will begin to fade and then it won?t bother you any more ?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Keith Stewart<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:keithstewart@bell.net" href="mailto:keithstewart@bell.net">keithstewart@bell.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Tom Walling <<a ymailto="mailto:pdqtr6@comcast.net" href="mailto:pdqtr6@comcast.net">pdqtr6@comcast.net</a>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: July 11, 2018 6:37 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Triumphs <<a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Vestigal Brown Wire?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Quick question... I have a '73 TR6 with a 3 wire plug connection alternator (Lucas 18ACR). I have recently discovered a mystery wire flopping around in the general vicinity of the alternator. I never noticed it before partly because it was covered in baked-on grunge, and partly because it is fairly short after leaving the wiring loom tape. I suspect it may be the "voltage sensing line" (Book of Masters, Chapter 13, page 54) and it has no function with a 3 wire alternator, however, there is an opening in the rear cover that is just the right size for the connector to go in, and a terminal spade inside. I have run the car this way for at least 20 years without any noticeable problems, but I does bother me that I have this unused brown wire.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Advice?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20180712/908752a5/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20180712/908752a5/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 21:45:33 -0400<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Greg <<a ymailto="mailto:greg@gregoryd.com" href="mailto:greg@gregoryd.com">greg@gregoryd.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: John Deluca <<a ymailto="mailto:john-marie@sbcglobal.net" href="mailto:john-marie@sbcglobal.net">john-marie@sbcglobal.net</a>>, "<a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A horn<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:0B363D7B-B523-4546-A7E3-FB214A775E00@gregoryd.com" href="mailto:0B363D7B-B523-4546-A7E3-FB214A775E00@gregoryd.com">0B363D7B-B523-4546-A7E3-FB214A775E00@gregoryd.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">That?s great!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I?m not positive how to fix it permanently.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">My thought was to use a silver conductive epoxy, or something similar, to build up the surface of the contact.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">But the only epoxy I found was $40. It?s not until now that I?ve asked the question below and will ask again here: does anyone have a recommendation for how to improve/expand the contact surface shown here <a href="https://imgur.com/n5mieHF?" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/n5mieHF? </a> Something like a silver conductive epoxy that has some hope of lasting a while. If the contacts were maybe a millimeter larger in the direction of the steering column, the left/right push probably wouldn?t be necessary.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">--Greg<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: John Deluca <<a ymailto="mailto:john-marie@sbcglobal.net" href="mailto:john-marie@sbcglobal.net">john-marie@sbcglobal.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 9:28 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Greg <<a ymailto="mailto:greg@gregoryd.com" href="mailto:greg@gregoryd.com">greg@gregoryd.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A horn<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Eureka! That?s it. Just tried it and it works. Now, how do I fix it?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">John<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Jul 12, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Greg <<a ymailto="mailto:greg@gregoryd.com" href="mailto:greg@gregoryd.com">greg@gregoryd.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I?ll add my experience to the mix: the horn on my ?67 TR4A would not work consistently. It would work, but randomly, it seemed. I examined all of the things Dave mentions, tested the wiring, and replaced the relay and the fuse. None of it worked.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The issue ended up being with the contacts pictured below (and here: <a href="https://imgur.com/n5mieHF" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/n5mieHF</a>), which bring the circuit up to the steering wheel and from there to the horn push:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><image001.png><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Over the years, these contacts had worn down to the point that the steering wheel did not make constant contact with one or the other. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I discovered that, if I pushed on the horn and also pushed the steering wheel laterally just a bit to the left towards the driver?s door, or to the right towards the passenger door, contact would be made and the horn would sound. And it worked consistently ? it still does.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">If nothing else is fixing it, try the left or right push. Having the engine on helps.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I?ll take this opportunity to ask my own question: does anyone have a recommendation for how to improve the contact ?permanently?? Something like a silver conductive epoxy? If the contacts were maybe a millimeter larger in the direction of the steering column, the left/right push probably wouldn?t be necessary.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">One other thing: sometimes the circuit would complete ? you could see it on the ammeter, but still no horn. That took a turn or two on the adjustment screws on each of the horns.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">--Greg<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Triumphs <<a ymailto="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of DAVID MASSEY <<a ymailto="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com" href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com">dave1massey@cs.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 8:30 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <<a ymailto="mailto:john-marie@sbcglobal.net" href="mailto:john-marie@sbcglobal.net">john-marie@sbcglobal.net</a>>, <<a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A horn<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">There are a number of things that have to work right for the horn to work reliably. Power to the horn relay comes from the fuse but the grounding of the other side of the coil runs through a number connections that are the usual culprits in cases like these. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">First off there is a slip-ring behind the steering wheel. This is the conductor the horn brush contacts and provides a current path as the wheel turns. If there are dead spots (dirt, corrosion, damage) the horn brush cannot make good electrical contact and the horn will not work. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The other end of the brush contact the horn push (push-button switch) in the wheel center. That switch can also be bad but usually it is not dependent on steering wheel position.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The other side of the push contacts the steering wheel and hence the steering wheel shaft. But we are not done since the steering wheel shaft is not ground. The shaft rotates in a couple bushings which may or may not make contact to the outer shaft housing. Also, this shaft connects to a second shaft via a rubber coupling. And this shaft connects to the steering rack pinion shaft via another rubber coupling. AND the rack itself is mounted with rubber bushes. The designers, in an effort to make a reliable ground connection for the horn push, added grounding straps at each of the steering shaft couplers and to ground the rack. If any of these straps is missing or broken you will not have a reliable ground connection to the steering wheel.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can see these all depicted in the Moss catalog <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/suspension-steering/steering/steering-tr4-4a" target="_blank">https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/suspension-steering/steering/steering-tr4-4a</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Good luck.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Dave Massey<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: John Deluca <<a ymailto="mailto:john-marie@sbcglobal.net" href="mailto:john-marie@sbcglobal.net">john-marie@sbcglobal.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: triumphs <<a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Wed, Jul 11, 2018 10:12 pm<br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] TR4A horn<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">My TR4A horn blows, but not consistently. With the front wheels off the ground, holding the horn button down and turning the steering wheel stop to stop, horn blows but not continually. There are dead spots where it doesn?t blow. But the dead spots are not always at the same place. Any ideas as to what is the cause? John DeLuca Sent from my iPad ** <a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> ** Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html </a>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive </a>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums </a>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com </a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">** <a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> ** Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html </a>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive </a>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums </a>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gregoryd.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gregoryd.com </a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><image001.png><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20180712/382f7654/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20180712/382f7654/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 3<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 20:58:28 -0500<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Patrick Baize <<a ymailto="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com" href="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com">pbaize@satx.rr.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Randall <<a ymailto="mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com" href="mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com">tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>>, <a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>,<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:StagByTriumph@triumphstagclub.org" href="mailto:StagByTriumph@triumphstagclub.org">StagByTriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a>, <a ymailto="mailto:HDRider570@att.net" href="mailto:HDRider570@att.net">HDRider570@att.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] [Stag] AC blower motors<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:a12c55da-652a-9cd4-c3b4-b1453dc1e606@satx.rr.com" href="mailto:a12c55da-652a-9cd4-c3b4-b1453dc1e606@satx.rr.com">a12c55da-652a-9cd4-c3b4-b1453dc1e606@satx.rr.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Glenn, Randall and Edward<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> ??? Its the inside blower motors, no slow speed when turn on AC and no <br></div><div dir="ltr">high speed when pull the switch.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> ??? Does anyone know where I can get a wiring diagram,? can't find <br></div><div dir="ltr">mine. Google search doesn't help.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks Patrick<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 7/12/2018 3:09 PM, Randall wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Are you saying it won't run at all, or only that it doesn't come on <br></div><div dir="ltr">> without pulling the blower switch?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> And just to be clear, you mean the blower in the cabin, not the fans <br></div><div dir="ltr">> under the hood/bonnet?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> -- Randall<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On 11 July 2018 16:50:02 GMT-07:00, Patrick Baize <<a ymailto="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com" href="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com">pbaize@satx.rr.com</a>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hi All<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ??? Anyone had their blower motors not run, when AC on?? Anything I can<br></div><div dir="ltr">> check?<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Thanks Patrick<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> 71 Stag<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ---<br></div><div dir="ltr">> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate:<a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive:<a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Forums:<a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage:<a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3driver@ca.rr.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20180712/679f9e0b/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20180712/679f9e0b/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 4<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 23:03:11 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Randall <<a ymailto="mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com" href="mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com">tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Patrick Baize <<a ymailto="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com" href="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com">pbaize@satx.rr.com</a>>, <a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>,<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:StagByTriumph@triumphstagclub.org" href="mailto:StagByTriumph@triumphstagclub.org">StagByTriumph@triumphstagclub.org</a>, <a ymailto="mailto:HDRider570@att.net" href="mailto:HDRider570@att.net">HDRider570@att.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] [Stag] AC blower motors<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:083AC627-43AD-4A5B-9DE5-A14A4019DC1D@ca.rr.com" href="mailto:083AC627-43AD-4A5B-9DE5-A14A4019DC1D@ca.rr.com">083AC627-43AD-4A5B-9DE5-A14A4019DC1D@ca.rr.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sorry, Patrick. All I can offer at the moment is a PDF of the ROM. Looks like the diagram you want is on page 490. You'll probably have to download the whole thing.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H2NJt34OffYWY3M2RjYTQtNzFiOS00ZDYxLWJkNmMtMzQ4ZjU3YzczMjQ4/view" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H2NJt34OffYWY3M2RjYTQtNzFiOS00ZDYxLWJkNmMtMzQ4ZjU3YzczMjQ4/view</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- Randall<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 12 July 2018 19:58:28 GMT-06:00, Patrick Baize <<a ymailto="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com" href="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com">pbaize@satx.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>Hi Glenn, Randall and Edward<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>??? Its the inside blower motors, no slow speed when turn on AC and no <br></div><div dir="ltr">>high speed when pull the switch.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ??? Does anyone know where I can get a wiring diagram,? can't find <br></div><div dir="ltr">>mine. Google search doesn't help.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>Thanks Patrick<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">>On 7/12/2018 3:09 PM, Randall wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Are you saying it won't run at all, or only that it doesn't come on <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> without pulling the blower switch?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> And just to be clear, you mean the blower in the cabin, not the fans <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> under the hood/bonnet?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> -- Randall<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> On 11 July 2018 16:50:02 GMT-07:00, Patrick Baize<br></div><div dir="ltr">><<a ymailto="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com" href="mailto:pbaize@satx.rr.com">pbaize@satx.rr.com</a>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Hi All<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> ??? Anyone had their blower motors not run, when AC on??<br></div><div dir="ltr">>Anything I can<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> check?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Thanks Patrick<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> 71 Stag<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> ---<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus<br></div><div dir="ltr">>software.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> ** <a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Donate:<a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Archive:<a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Forums:<a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>Unsubscribe/Manage:<a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3driver@ca.rr.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20180712/afcff2f2/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20180712/afcff2f2/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 5<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 08:25:28 -0500<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "<a ymailto="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net" href="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net">Wbeech@flash.net</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:wbeech@flash.net" href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net">wbeech@flash.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Dave Ranteer <<a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [TR] Auto Restoration School<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:7D4DB3B9-1E7A-40D4-A61D-BF21EDB8DD9F@flash.net" href="mailto:7D4DB3B9-1E7A-40D4-A61D-BF21EDB8DD9F@flash.net">7D4DB3B9-1E7A-40D4-A61D-BF21EDB8DD9F@flash.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Need this in the US too, for Brit cars. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/07/13/uk-government-to-start-backing-auto-restoration-apprenticeships/?refer=news" target="_blank">https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/07/13/uk-government-to-start-backing-auto-restoration-apprenticeships/?refer=news</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my Apple II+<br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20180713/fd59b35f/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20180713/fd59b35f/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 6<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 07:45:37 -0700<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Geo Hahn <<a ymailto="mailto:ahwahneetr@gmail.com" href="mailto:ahwahneetr@gmail.com">ahwahneetr@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "<a ymailto="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net" href="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net">Wbeech@flash.net</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:wbeech@flash.net" href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net">wbeech@flash.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Triumphs <<a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Auto Restoration School<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <CANzE1bG+pAr=qYzk-m2oW9hMrG_60sE2ndBENOtms+BRqiD+<a ymailto="mailto:7A@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:7A@mail.gmail.com">7A@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Closest thing in the U.S. may be McPherson College:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.mcpherson.edu/autorestoration/" target="_blank">https://www.mcpherson.edu/autorestoration/</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Pronounced mac-fur-son because (as they like to say) 'There is no fear in<br></div><div dir="ltr">McPherson'.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Geo<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 7:34 AM <a ymailto="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net" href="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net">Wbeech@flash.net</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:wbeech@flash.net" href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net">wbeech@flash.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Need this in the US too, for Brit cars.<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/07/13/uk-government-to-start-backing-auto-restoration-apprenticeships/?refer=news" target="_blank">https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/07/13/uk-government-to-start-backing-auto-restoration-apprenticeships/?refer=news</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Sent from my Apple II+<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ** <a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Unsubscribe/Manage:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20180713/6d6dd705/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20180713/6d6dd705/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 7<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:17:27 -0600<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: David P <<a ymailto="mailto:frogeye@porterscustom.com" href="mailto:frogeye@porterscustom.com">frogeye@porterscustom.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "<a ymailto="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net" href="mailto:Wbeech@flash.net">Wbeech@flash.net</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:wbeech@flash.net" href="mailto:wbeech@flash.net">wbeech@flash.net</a>>, Dave Ranteer<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] Auto Restoration School<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:dda9291b-bd6e-0412-43c1-3ec1ff30ab5f@porterscustom.com" href="mailto:dda9291b-bd6e-0412-43c1-3ec1ff30ab5f@porterscustom.com">dda9291b-bd6e-0412-43c1-3ec1ff30ab5f@porterscustom.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; 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