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    <p>I didn't know there was a difference, and wouldn't know how to
      tell. When I refurbished it, it looked the same as the totally
      rotted heater in my parts car, and it's not listed on car's my
      build sheet.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">George Richardson
Key Men - Keys for Classics
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-men.com">www.key-men.com</a>

1957 Triumph TR3
1961 Jaguar Mark 2
1975 Triumph TR6
1997 Land Rover Discovery</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/5/2017 6:15 PM, Reining, Randall
      S. wrote:<br>
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        #000000;font-size: 10pt;">George,
        <div>Any chance you might have the high output, very rare,
          optional heater intended for northern climates? The stock TR3
          heater output is only about 5000 btu's with coolant temp at
          185F or so. </div>
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        <div>Randall Reihing<br>
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            <div id="divRpF836592" style="direction: ltr;"><font
                size="2" color="#000000" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b>
                Triumphs [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] on behalf of
                George Richardson [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gpr@key-men.com">gpr@key-men.com</a>]<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:51 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] heater valve on block tr-3<br>
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              <p>For years I've read here about the TR3 heaters being
                deficient. Up until last year, I really couldn't tell,
                as I had never finished my side curtains. However, last
                year I did finish them, and used them in freezing
                weather. I learned why you need to have the sliding
                windows.</p>
              <p>My heater (original) performs wonderfully.<br>
              </p>
              <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">George Richardson
Key Men - Keys for Classics
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-men.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.key-men.com</a>

1957 Triumph TR3
1961 Jaguar Mark 2
1975 Triumph TR6
1997 Land Rover Discovery</pre>
              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/4/2017 9:33 PM, Bill
                Brewer wrote:<br>
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                        color:#1F497D">     I have a Marandyne heater in
                        my TR3. I think that I was the first person to
                        post it to the list originally.</span></font></p>
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                        color:#1F497D">     I made a new heater valve
                        for the top of the head from fittings from the
                        local TruValue hardware store. I used a ball
                        valve with a lever handle and had to make a
                        fitting to match the hose to the firewall
                        fitting. Has worked great for about 10 years.</span></font></p>
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                      face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
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                        color:#1F497D">     The major issue with my
                        heater was the return pipe that goes from near
                        the firewall to the water pump on the driver’s
                        side. Mine had rusted solid since I had checked
                        it last. I replaced it with a stainless steel
                        one from either TRF or Moss.
                      </span></font></p>
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                      face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
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                        color:#1F497D">     My Marandyne heater works
                        great still. My TR3 heater was always pathetic.</span></font></p>
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                        color:#1F497D">     -Bill Brewer</span></font></p>
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                            Gary Nafziger [<a
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                              href="mailto:nafzigerg@yahoo.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:nafzigerg@yahoo.com</a>]
                            <br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                            Sunday, December 3, 2017 6:00 PM<br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                              href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                              triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                            [TR] heater valve on block tr-3</span></font></p>
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                            wanna thank the list and specifically
                            Randall for help with starter solenoid ?. 
                            Tested and found solenoid was bad so all is
                            well.</span></font></p>
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                          face="Helvetica"><span
                            style="font-size:18.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Just
                            had a question for the list.  I'm just not
                            getting as much heat through the Marydane
                            (sp) replacement heater in tr-3.  Temp guage
                            shows 185 degrees but temp through heater is
                            warmish and I can grab with my hands the
                            heater hoses going into the heater.  Checked
                            flow and everything out and I'm pretty sure
                            its the heater valve on the block.  It's the
                            faucet type with the green round handle. 
                            I'm thinking the inside broke loose and its
                            closed.</span></font></p>
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                          face="Helvetica"><span
                            style="font-size:18.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">several
                            years ago I bought a radiator valve of a
                            similar type and it leaked as soon as I
                            filled the radiator.  My heater valve came
                            from the same vendor and I'm guessing they
                            both might not be made well.</span></font></p>
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                          face="Helvetica"><span
                            style="font-size:18.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Just
                            wondered if anyone else on the list has had
                            these valves fail.  I'm planning on
                            replacing with a later valve.</span></font></p>
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