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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Have had several TR3s and always noticed the gas smell if left overnight in a small garage. I have just attributed it to the open over flow pipe. Have never had a gas leak per se, sometimes there might be just a little dampness noticed around the bottom of the SUs, not enough to drip.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kinderlehrer<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 02, 2017 12:02 PM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Reihing, Randall S.' <Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu>; 'Dave' <dave1massey@cs.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [TR] help needed with persistent gas smell<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks Randall and Dave, I appreciate your responses. From my brother’s description, this way more than the faint smell of gas and I think it is abnormal. I have 2 triumphs in my garage and my wife with the nose of a bloodhound doesn’t notice any gas smell. There are no wet spots and no dampness to be found, so I don’t think a dye in the gas will reveal anything and the smell is strongest in the trunk so the fuel pump is unlikely.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Still, your point about the close system makes me wonder if there is a way to add a carbon canister, maybe to the overflow pipe, and then close off the vent in the fuel filler cap.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bob <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Reihing, Randall S. [<a href="mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu">mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu</a>] <br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 02, 2017 5:20 AM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Dave; <a href="mailto:kinderlehrer@comcast.net">kinderlehrer@comcast.net</a>; <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [TR] help needed with persistent gas smell<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Dave has an excellent point. My 1959 TR3A resides in a heated garage and when first entering, the scent of fuel is faintly noticeable until the overhead door is opened. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Randall Reihing<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:9.5pt;color:black'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></span></font></div><div id=divRpF420548><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Triumphs [triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] on behalf of Dave [dave1massey@cs.com]<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, October 01, 2017 8:56 PM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:kinderlehrer@comcast.net">kinderlehrer@comcast.net</a>; <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [TR] help needed with persistent gas smell</span></font><font size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:9.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Welcome to life in the 1950's. There is a reason houses of that era had detached garages. From the 1970's on the EPA mandated and evaporative loss controls and charcoal canisters was born. But the TR3 had none of that and the gas tank was vented directly to atmosphere. You will never get it to the level of a modern car (such as TR6) and there will always be some aroma of gasoline in the garage.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=4 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dave Massey</span></font><font color=black face=Arial><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Kinderlehrer <<a href="mailto:kinderlehrer@comcast.net">kinderlehrer@comcast.net</a>><br>To: 'TR3 Triumphs' <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 6:16 pm<br>Subject: [TR] help needed with persistent gas smell<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_1.2_6a985c3c-f7dd-42dd-936b-74a790bba9d1"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>My brother is really enjoying the TR3A he bought several months ago, except for the smell of gas in his garage every morning. The car was recently restored but he had all the fuel lines and carburetors checked by a British car mechanic shop. He had the overflow blocked to no avail, I convinced him to replace the gas tank suspecting pin hole leaks at the bottom and that didn’t help either. The smell is strongest inside the trunk so I suggested that he blow up a balloon inside the filler and see what happens. No smell so he had the hose from the filler to the tank replaced, but the smell returned. Next he covered the filler with a plastic bag, The smell went away but if he took it for a short drive with the bag in place, the smell returned after he parked the car in the garage.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Other than replacing the filler cap, I am out of ideas. We considered plugging up the vent hole in the filler cap, but he won’t be able to drive very far like that. Has anybody struggled with this issue and found a solution? Anyone have any ideas on what might be going on here?</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks for any help,</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bob</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>