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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I’m going to vote carbs or possibly the shutoff valve. Any could be leaking, ever so slightly. I actually had this problem, and it was the shutoff valve.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pete Ryner<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 2, 2017 1:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>; triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] help needed with persistent gas smell<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Have you looked at the fuel sending unit which is on top of the tank? There is also an overflow copper pipe with a banjo fitting between the filler neck and the sending unit. If the pipe has been replaced with a rubber hose it could have deteriorated or munched on by critters. I would take the panel covering the tank out of the trunk and search the whole top of the gas tank.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Pete<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Kinderlehrer <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Monday, October 02, 2017 1:02 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> 'Reihing, Randall S.' ; 'Dave' ; <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Re: [TR] help needed with persistent gas smell<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks Randall and Dave, I appreciate your responses. From my brother’s description, this way more than the faint smell of gas and I think it is abnormal. I have 2 triumphs in my garage and my wife with the nose of a bloodhound doesn’t notice any gas smell. There are no wet spots and no dampness to be found, so I don’t think a dye in the gas will reveal anything and the smell is strongest in the trunk so the fuel pump is unlikely.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Still, your point about the close system makes me wonder if there is a way to add a carbon canister, maybe to the overflow pipe, and then close off the vent in the fuel filler cap.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bob <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Reihing, Randall S. [<a href="mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu">mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 02, 2017 5:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> Dave; <a href="mailto:kinderlehrer@comcast.net">kinderlehrer@comcast.net</a>; <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] help needed with persistent gas smell<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Dave has an excellent point. My 1959 TR3A resides in a heated garage and when first entering, the scent of fuel is faintly noticeable until the overhead door is opened. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Randall Reihing<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;color:black'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRpF420548><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Triumphs [triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] on behalf of Dave [dave1massey@cs.com]<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 01, 2017 8:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:kinderlehrer@comcast.net">kinderlehrer@comcast.net</a>; <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] help needed with persistent gas smell</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Welcome to life in the 1950's. There is a reason houses of that era had detached garages. From the 1970's on the EPA mandated and evaporative loss controls and charcoal canisters was born. But the TR3 had none of that and the gas tank was vented directly to atmosphere. You will never get it to the level of a modern car (such as TR6) and there will always be some aroma of gasoline in the garage.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dave Massey</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Kinderlehrer <<a href="mailto:kinderlehrer@comcast.net">kinderlehrer@comcast.net</a>><br>To: 'TR3 Triumphs' <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 6:16 pm<br>Subject: [TR] help needed with persistent gas smell<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_1.2_6a985c3c-f7dd-42dd-936b-74a790bba9d1"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>My brother is really enjoying the TR3A he bought several months ago, except for the smell of gas in his garage every morning. The car was recently restored but he had all the fuel lines and carburetors checked by a British car mechanic shop. He had the overflow blocked to no avail, I convinced him to replace the gas tank suspecting pin hole leaks at the bottom and that didn’t help either. The smell is strongest inside the trunk so I suggested that he blow up a balloon inside the filler and see what happens. No smell so he had the hose from the filler to the tank replaced, but the smell returned. Next he covered the filler with a plastic bag, The smell went away but if he took it for a short drive with the bag in place, the smell returned after he parked the car in the garage.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Other than replacing the filler cap, I am out of ideas. We considered plugging up the vent hole in the filler cap, but he won’t be able to drive very far like that. Has anybody struggled with this issue and found a solution? Anyone have any ideas on what might be going on here?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks for any help,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bob</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><br>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pryner@verizon.net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pryner@verizon.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>