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<p>Just like many of the replacement cyl boxes state.... warranty
voided if you use silicone fluid (Dot 5)</p>
<p>What it boils down to is 5 does not lubricate the rubber seals
the way 3/4 does. It's also a crap shoot</p>
<p>as it effects synthetic vs natural rubber seals differently</p>
<p>I too have been running 5 in all my LBC's for years. Yes, I've
replaced a master or two, but no more than when I was running 3<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Paul Tegler
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/9/2017 7:12 PM, dave wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think that’s a good idea, but I don’t
really think its true<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Cliff Hansen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 9, 2017 12:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Friedlander <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"><forzion7@gmail.com></a>;
Randall <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com"><TR3driver@ca.rr.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> TR3 Triumphs <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"><triumphs@autox.team.net></a>;
Ann Carletta <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:anncarletta@yahoo.com"><anncarletta@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Brake Fluid for TR3A<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You can’t switch from DOT3/4 to DOT 5
without replacing _<i>all</i>_ of the non-metal parts: caliper
seals, hoses, master cylinder seals, and thoroughly cleaning
the metal parts. I’m guessing that they used DOT3 brake fluid
as a lubricant when they assembled the master cylinder.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a
href="mailto:forzion7@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">David
Friedlander</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Saturday, September 9, 2017 9:13 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Randall</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">TR3 Triumphs</a>; <a
href="mailto:anncarletta@yahoo.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Ann
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Brake Fluid for TR3A<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:#000099">I am installing new brake master
cylinders in my TR3 and the boxes <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:#000099">I run DOT5 in my TR6 without issue
but am rebuilding this <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:#000099">TR3 and wanted to use DOT5 here as
well...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Randall
<<a href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is no clear consensus on brake
fluid. Some of us love DOT 5 silicone,<br>
others hate it.<br>
<br>
But I do recommend that you find out what you have
before topping up; and<br>
also look for where it is leaking. Since this is a
single circuit braking<br>
system, it only takes one leak to rob you of all
hydraulic brakes. Not a<br>
good feeling, especially when you're going downhill into
an underground<br>
parking garage, and the handbrake is also broken!<br>
<br>
Also, if you don't have DOT 5, any other brake fluid
will eat paint promptly<br>
and promote rust. And any of them will ruin the rear
brake shoes if it gets<br>
on them.<br>
<br>
If you do use one of the non-silicone formulas, you also
shouldn't keep an<br>
old can of it. They suck moisture directly from the
air, once the can has<br>
been opened, and start getting old. That's why you
should always open a new<br>
can; and change it in your braking system every few
years, even if you don't<br>
drive the car. (Just one of the many reasons I like DOT
5, it doesn't suck<br>
<g>)<br>
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Here is a good article (IMO) on the pros & cons of
DOT 5<br>
<a
href="http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Brakes/Fluid/Fluid.htm"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Brakes/Fluid/Fluid.htm</a><br>
If you are a glutton for punishment, you can also find
the SAE papers that<br>
it references here<br>
<a
href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2H2NJt34OffdnhWS19scjlNUU0"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2H2NJt34OffdnhWS19scjlNUU0</a><br>
<br>
Of all the TR3s I've driven and owned, only my current
"barn find" 56 needed<br>
lead (substitute). I eventually changed the head, and
now I don't use lead.<br>
My previous TR3A engine went well over 100,000 miles
without ever having<br>
lead added.<br>
<span style="color:#888888"><br>
<span class="hoenzb">-- Randall</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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