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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I think that’s a good idea, but I don’t really think its true<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cliff Hansen<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 9, 2017 12:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>; Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.com><br><b>Cc:</b> TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; Ann Carletta <anncarletta@yahoo.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Brake Fluid for TR3A<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>You can’t switch from DOT3/4 to DOT 5 without replacing _<i>all</i>_ of the non-metal parts: caliper seals, hoses, master cylinder seals, and thoroughly cleaning the metal parts. I’m guessing that they used DOT3 brake fluid as a lubricant when they assembled the master cylinder.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:forzion7@gmail.com">David Friedlander</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, September 9, 2017 9:13 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com">Randall</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">TR3 Triumphs</a>; <a href="mailto:anncarletta@yahoo.com">Ann Carletta</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Brake Fluid for TR3A<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>Randall;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>I am installing new brake master cylinders in my TR3 and the boxes <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>theycame in had the label you can see in the attached photo. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>What do you make of this?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>I run DOT5 in my TR6 without issue but am rebuilding this <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>TR3 and wanted to use DOT5 here as well...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>Dave Friedlander<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>Maine<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Randall <<a href="mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com" target="_blank">TR3driver@ca.rr.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>There is no clear consensus on brake fluid. Some of us love DOT 5 silicone,<br>others hate it.<br><br>But I do recommend that you find out what you have before topping up; and<br>also look for where it is leaking. Since this is a single circuit braking<br>system, it only takes one leak to rob you of all hydraulic brakes. Not a<br>good feeling, especially when you're going downhill into an underground<br>parking garage, and the handbrake is also broken!<br><br>Also, if you don't have DOT 5, any other brake fluid will eat paint promptly<br>and promote rust. And any of them will ruin the rear brake shoes if it gets<br>on them.<br><br>If you do use one of the non-silicone formulas, you also shouldn't keep an<br>old can of it. They suck moisture directly from the air, once the can has<br>been opened, and start getting old. That's why you should always open a new<br>can; and change it in your braking system every few years, even if you don't<br>drive the car. (Just one of the many reasons I like DOT 5, it doesn't suck<br><g>)<br><br>Here is a good article (IMO) on the pros & cons of DOT 5<br><a href="http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Brakes/Fluid/Fluid.htm" target="_blank">http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Brakes/Fluid/Fluid.htm</a><br>If you are a glutton for punishment, you can also find the SAE papers that<br>it references here<br><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2H2NJt34OffdnhWS19scjlNUU0" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2H2NJt34OffdnhWS19scjlNUU0</a><br><br>Of all the TR3s I've driven and owned, only my current "barn find" 56 needed<br>lead (substitute). I eventually changed the head, and now I don't use lead.<br>My previous TR3A engine went well over 100,000 miles without ever having<br>lead added.<br><span style='color:#888888'><br><span class=hoenzb>-- Randall</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br>** <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/forzion7@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/forzion7@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>