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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hey, Dave:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I started life as a physician. But not just an MD, but an MD, PhD. Bad combination. The “do what is needed” of the MD is always challenged by the “but do data support it?” of the PhD. When a patient came into the ER with a dangerously low blood count, the PhD in me said “you must find out the cause” while the MD was screaming “transfuse !!”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So fast forward to retirement and cars. Not a good mix for my left brain. I have had to re-program all my trainings to deal with the “it doesn’t fit” and the “but it isn’t the same as previously”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I guess what I am saying is you are dealing with 2 opposing factors here: does this affect the camber of the wheel and does the cotter pin still secure the nut ? The problem is not whether a washer is included or not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would think (but am open to correction) that the most important thing is the camber of the wheel (should be zero, I believe) and then deal with whether the ball joint allows for the cotter pin or not. If the camber is OK, then drill another hole, or use a washer. But I learned a long time ago that wishing the parts would meet my expectations was an exercise in futility.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just my 2 cents…….<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jackson, Michigan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Friedlander<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> New England Triumphs; TR3 Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Ball joint fitment<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>Hey all ~<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>Anyone else had trouble mounting TRF's ball joint 200272 to the upper <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>control arms?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'><a href="http://trf.zeni.net/TR2-TR3GB/154.php?s_wt=1366&s_ht=768">http://trf.zeni.net/TR2-TR3GB/154.php?s_wt=1366&s_ht=768</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>Moss' diagram is, of course, much more complete:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'><a href="http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29136&SortOrder=230">http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29136&SortOrder=230</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>I have compared my old ball joints to the new ones and find that the </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>shaft stem (to the upper control arms) of the new ones is 0.110 shorter </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>than the old ones. While TRF does include the "correct mounting hardware," </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>the shorter stem length means the only way to secure the castle nut with a </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>cotter pin onto the shorter length stem is to NOT use the included 9/16" </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>washer. Is this a problem? </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>Perhaps a thinner washer would help.... Or i could jump on the ratchet </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>wrench with a cheater bar.... </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>Anyone?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#000099'>Dave</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>