<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7234"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7251">i think its all about how you do it.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7233"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7232">as Randall said there was a time when the machining dimensions were wrong.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7233"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7339">my method of installation was to wipe the crank with a very very light coat of oil.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7233"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7340">where the joint in the seal came together be sure its at the top of the motor.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7233"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7341">i used a silicone sealant as the assembly took place at that joint. real silicone sealant and not the siliconized dap sold in the big box.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7231"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7432">i then clamped everything up and let it sit for 2 or 3 days.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7231"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7433">silicone is very un-tolerant of oils, in that it will not stick to any mildly oiled surface. so as i probably got excess sealant squirting out it did not stick to the crank. but did provide a seal in the joint and a filler to the joint to crank gap.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7231"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7524">i have done 2 like this and get very minimal oil leaks. i still get a little dab, but i never have to top up between oil changes.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7231"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7231"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7567">one buddy had his fitted by a "professional" shop and its horrible.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7231"><span>one buddy has the latest seal and its great.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7231"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7231"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_8774">my experiences may be different than others.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7231"><span><br></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7230">Frank</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7230"><br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7230"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7144" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7143"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7142"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7229"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7252"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7342"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> wbeech <wbeech@flash.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Andrew Uprichard' <auprichard@uprichard.net>; 'Gary Nafziger' <nafzigerg@yahoo.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 17, 2017 10:37 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [TR] tr-3 rear motor bearing<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7141"><br><div id="yiv6137664070"><style>#yiv6137664070 #yiv6137664070 --
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#yiv6137664070 </style><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7140"><div class="yiv6137664070WordSection1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7139"><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7138"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7137"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7136">I have used the Moss seal twice, 8 & 5 years ago, on a TR3 and an MG-TD. Both resulted in a reduction of the leaks at the rear main but still plenty of mess on the mat that I keep under the cars to try an protect the floor. Current TR3 has a TR4 motor with no leaks at all, wish I knew what was in there, don’t know the PO.</span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7228"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7224"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_8796"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_8795">Hopefully the replacement seals are getting better, no plans to replace anything at the moment.</span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7225"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7226"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Bill B</span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492450205755_7227"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070yqt6975035059" id="yiv6137664070yqt60381"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Uprichard<br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 17, 2017 6:34 AM<br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> 'Gary Nafziger' <nafzigerg@yahoo.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net<br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [TR] tr-3 rear motor bearing</span></font></div></div></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Which “rear motor bearing fix” did you use?</span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I used the Moss conversion on both of my “keeper” TR3s and they both leak. More recently I switched to the Viton conversion and they are much drier (not much consolation for my garage floor).</span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Maybe I have gotten better with time and the leaks are unrelated to the rear seal, but I was wondering if others had experience with both “fixes”</span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">With regard to your question about the felt, I really don’t know. But hopefully someone with more experience than me will educate us.</span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Andrew Uprichard</span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Jackson, Michigan</span></font></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></font></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Triumphs [<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Gary Nafziger<br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, April 16, 2017 11:02 PM<br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [TR] tr-3 rear motor bearing</span></font></div></div></div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></font></div><div><div id="yiv6137664070yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492396568997_37636"><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font size="5" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">I've been happily driving my restored tr-3 for 2 driving seasons and am very happy with the motor rebuild. It pulls strong and is a fun driver. I have one problem with oil leaking. I put in the new rear motor bearing fix but still get a significant leak after each run. (4-5 tablespoons) </span></font></div></div><div id="yiv6137664070yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492396568997_37711"><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font size="5" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">I'm pretty sure that I didn't pound enough soaked felt around the bearing when installing and my question is for those more experienced than I am: Is it possible to pound more felt in from the bottom up rather than pull the engine? I'm sure it would be a heck of a sloppy job if possible but I dread pulling an engine on a newly restored car. Probably would simply deal with the leak and enjoy the car!</span></font></div></div><div id="yiv6137664070yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492396568997_37726"><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font size="5" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">Any ideas would help!</span></font></div></div><div id="yiv6137664070yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492396568997_37727"><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font size="5" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font size="5" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">Gary Nafziger</span></font></div></div><div><div class="yiv6137664070MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font size="5" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;">Wellman, Iowa 52356</span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yqt6975035059" id="yqt22945"><br clear="none">** <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> **<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Donate: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/donate.html" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear="none">Archive: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/archive" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br clear="none">Forums: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.team.net/forums" target="_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br clear="none">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a shape="rect" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>