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<p>LOL. I guess it is me that should be retired.</p>
<p>Roger<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/04/2017 08:27 AM, David
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<div dir="auto">AARP bolts? Maybe they're took old to work and
have retired! LOL!
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<div dir="auto">Dave</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 4, 2017 1:36 AM, "Roger Elliott"
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<p>The shop did the head rebuild and install both times,
so I am not sure if they followed the correct
procedures. It has AARP studs. They were new when they
rebuilt the head the first time and have not been
replaced.</p>
<p>The first time they rebuilt the head, the head gasket
blew at 800 miles. (It had been retorqued). I replaced
the head gasket that time as I didn't want to wait to
get it in. I used a better head gasket, discovered the
timing was way too far advanced, I figured that was why
the head gasket blew. I followed the manual for
tightening specs and order. Actually I used the AARP
specs for tightening, I think they were a bit higher
than the manual.<br>
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<p>Then one of the valves froze at 2000 miles after the
head rebuild - 1200 after I replace the head gasket.
Head had been retorqued. This is when they said nothing
they did caused the valve to stick. They added an
external oil feed as they said it was not getting
lubrication, plus new valves, seats and guides. </p>
<p>When I checked the block it seemed good, but I was
doing around the head studs. <br>
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<p>Oh, when I got it home and started looking at it, 2
valves were less than .004, the rest were one each .005
through .010.</p>
<p>Just looked back at the head gasket. It doesn't look
so good. It has holes around the sealing ring.<br>
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Roger<br>
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04/03/2017 06:11 AM, ptegler wrote:<br>
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<p>upon installing the head after the first rebuild, did
you re-torque the head after the intial warmup up/cool
down heat cycle?</p>
<p>did you use new head studs? what spec did you torque
to? proper order of studs?<br>
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<div dir="auto">Any chance the block is not flat?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 2, 2017 7:55 PM,
"Roger Elliott" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:elliottr@rmi.net" target="_blank">elliottr@rmi.net</a>>
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solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi All,<br>
<br>
I have a 1980 Spitfire, the head has been
rebuilt twice in the last 2,500 miles. (Shop
claims something happened between first and
second rebuild, so not their fault)<br>
<br>
Anyway, I have taken it for a few drives ~60
miles at a time and all seemed good, so we were
going to take it on a bit longer drive.<br>
<br>
35 miles from home, the temp gauge is pegged, I
put in lots of water - maybe not quite a half
gallon. Started up to try to drive back home,
there was lots of white smoke from the exhaust.
I don't think it was smoking much if at all
before it overheated as I was kind of keeping an
eye on the car behind us and did not see smoke.<br>
<br>
I got 3 miles and decided to call a tow truck.
It was low on water again - at least a quart in
those 3 miles.<br>
<br>
I used a leak down tester - though didn't really
do a real leak down test - to see if the
cylinders were holding air. All seemed fine
except 4 which was not holding air and I could
hear the air coming through the radiator water
was bubbling.<br>
<br>
So, I took the head off expecting the head
gasket to be blown or something obvious with the
head.<br>
<br>
Head gasket was fine. My checks of the head
with feeler gauge and straight edge indicated it
is flat. I don't see anything wrong with the
head.<br>
<br>
Do I need to have it checked for cracks? Or
what else could be wrong?<br>
<br>
Or could it be that the overheating loosened the
head enough that water got past the gasket?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Roger Elliott<br>
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